Another Victim of Linksys.

I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
but ripoffs.

If you have all your documentation in order and
are ready to undergo an inquisition-type
grilling, you can get some help from LinkSys
Customer Service..From the Philippines, I might
add. 800 numbers and on-line chat are available.
Of course time-zones are different..Luck to you.
Will be long and rigorous..but you have a LinkSys
device and what goes with it!!!

flamestar wrote:
> I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
> in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
> but ripoffs.
>
Gross exaggeration won't help you much. Have you tried explaining what
product you have, what you did... and what resulted... exactly?
bj

flamestar <agnifire@gmail.com> wrote:

> I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
> in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
> but ripoffs.

Could it be your typing that's causing the problem?

flamestar wrote:

> I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
> in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
> but ripoffs.
>
Hmmm.
Are you the one who blames everything, everyone but yourself when things
don't go well? What's wrong with Linksys? You did not even mention your
hardware platform, OS, or problem you incurred.

I am wrong about COMPUSA most of its products are quite good.Linksys
sucks just google linksys and see what people are saying.

--------------------------

Linksys Hookup Nightmare ... Pictures? I thought we dumped
hieroglyphics in favor of ASCII text about 2000 years
ago. Just how basic do you need the instructions? Linksys EasyLink
Advisor. ...
alt.internet.wireless - Dec 2 2006, 1:14 pm by Jeff Liebermann - 15
messages - 10 authors

Linksys vulnerability? Linksys makes a shitty product. ... I have a
Linksys BEFSR41 firewall connected to
my comcast cable modem. It has worked flawlessly for years. ...
comp.security.firewalls - Mar 22 2004, 10:26 am by Tarapia Tapioco - 6
messages - 5 authors

Beating a Dead Horse - UPnP - Linksys BEFSR41 ... You may want to
contact Linksys about this one: http://www.linksys.
com/support/ _____ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP ...
microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger - Feb 9 2003, 11:36 am by Jonathan
Kay [MVP] - 7 messages - 2 authors

Linksys WAG54GS and the Power goes down... ... I manage a number of
remote networks for companies and I always use Linksys ADSL
Modem / Routers, as a standard I've tended to use the LINKSYS
WAG54G-UK... ...
microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware - Oct 8 2006, 10:17 am by Chris
H. - 4 messages - 2 authors

Linksys and Airport and WEP oh my In article OK you Linksys mavens
out there, someone tell me what I'm doing
wrong here... I have one of those lovely Linksys BEFW11s4 ...
comp.sys.mac.comm - Dec 1 2002, 4:12 pm by Tom Stiller - 5 messages - 3
authors

Blue linksys DSL switches We have a blue linksys DSL box. I am ...
But how would the rest of the world
be able to see this computer behind the linksys box? I do ...
comp.os.linux.networking - Nov 6 2003, 9:16 pm by David Efflandt - 8
messages - 5 authors

"flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>I am wrong about COMPUSA most of its products are quite good.Linksys
>sucks just google linksys and see what people are saying.

Ok. Let's do just that.
Googling for various manufacturers (with the quote marks):
"Linksys sucks" yields 4070 hits.
"Cisco sucks" yields 2530 hits.
"Netgear sucks" yields 1580 hits.
"Dlink sucks" yields 941 hits.
"Belkin sucks" yields 672 hits.
Belkin is the winner as the wireless manufactory that sucks the lease.
Buy Belkin. It's all very scientific.

> Linksys Hookup Nightmare ... Pictures? I thought we dumped
>hieroglyphics in favor of ASCII text about 2000 years
>ago. Just how basic do you need the instructions? Linksys EasyLink
>Advisor. ...

Yep. I wrote that.

So, you bought a BEFW11S4 at CompUSA? I can see you did zero research
before buying. Linksys doesn't manufacture anything. They put their
name on products thrown together by various international
manufactories. Some are really good. Some are crap. You apparently
bought crap. However, you don't seem to care about getting help
making your purchase work. You're only interesting in complaining and
attracting comments.

>alt.internet.wireless - Dec 2 2006, 1:14 pm by Jeff Liebermann - 15
>messages - 10 authors

I think you missed a few of my messages:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=tWGMphwAAAAGTj9X4k0U7wKkGyU8QhaBh axMG2M1PWkMtCZAt5tdxQ>
16,129 postings since 1994.
5,043 in alt.internet.wireless
Hmmm.... Methinks I might be posting too much.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
>> I am wrong about COMPUSA most of its products are quite good.Linksys
>> sucks just google linksys and see what people are saying.
>
> Ok. Let's do just that.
> Googling for various manufacturers (with the quote marks):
> "Linksys sucks" yields 4070 hits.
> "Cisco sucks" yields 2530 hits.
> "Netgear sucks" yields 1580 hits.
> "Dlink sucks" yields 941 hits.
> "Belkin sucks" yields 672 hits.
> Belkin is the winner as the wireless manufactory that sucks the lease.
> Buy Belkin. It's all very scientific.

[engaging tongue-in-cheek mode]

Perhaps one reason Linksys was listed so often is that its been sold in
Walmart at least two years before Belkin.

Consider the average skill set level of Walmart shoppers.

decaturtxcowboy wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> "flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>>
>>> I am wrong about COMPUSA most of its products are quite good.Linksys
>>> sucks just google linksys and see what people are saying.
>>
>>
>> Ok. Let's do just that.
>> Googling for various manufacturers (with the quote marks):
>> "Linksys sucks" yields 4070 hits.
>> "Cisco sucks" yields 2530 hits.
>> "Netgear sucks" yields 1580 hits.
>> "Dlink sucks" yields 941 hits.
>> "Belkin sucks" yields 672 hits.
>> Belkin is the winner as the wireless manufactory that sucks the lease.
>> Buy Belkin. It's all very scientific.
>
>
> [engaging tongue-in-cheek mode]
>
> Perhaps one reason Linksys was listed so often is that its been sold in
> Walmart at least two years before Belkin.
>
> Consider the average skill set level of Walmart shoppers.
Hi,
So how many Linksys was sold vs. Belkin overall?

"decaturtxcowboy" <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote in message
>
> Perhaps one reason Linksys was listed so often is that its been sold in
> Walmart at least two years before Belkin.
>
> Consider the average skill set level of Walmart shoppers.

It's likely that the linksys sucks query is so much higher because they sell
so much product.
Skill and general understand have a lot to do with the way someone perceives
a product....

Adair

Tony Hwang wrote:
> flamestar wrote:
>
> > I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
> > in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
> > but ripoffs.
> >
> Hmmm.
> Are you the one who blames everything, everyone but yourself when things
> don't go well? What's wrong with Linksys? You did not even mention your
> hardware platform, OS, or problem you incurred.

No you are the corporate phony who defends every bad product. Why
should I mention my platform as you are not interred in helping anyone?
Besides I know how to fix it.

Adair Witner wrote:
> "decaturtxcowboy" <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Perhaps one reason Linksys was listed so often is that its been sold in
> > Walmart at least two years before Belkin.
> >
> > Consider the average skill set level of Walmart shoppers.
>
> It's likely that the linksys sucks query is so much higher because they sell
> so much product.
> Skill and general understand have a lot to do with the way someone perceives
> a product....
>
> Adair

The rate of complaint is important not the number of complaints. A
random sample of messages yeild a high rate of complaints for linksys.
Moreover the kind of complains is import and linksys hurts computers
rather then merely not work.

The number of complaints does not control for the popularity of a
product. A good product with a low RATE of complaints will likely have
a large number of complaints because of high sales. If a product had a
1% percent complaint rate then a 1,000,000 sales would yield 1000
complaints. If a product had a 50% percent complaint rate then a 100
sales would yield 50 complaints. Moreover this idea doesn't address
the rate of complaint per discussion. If most discussions about a
product are positive and another product most discussions are negative
that indicates a difference in the quality of a product. So talking a
random sample based on Google rate of relevance yields this about
BELKIN.

__________________________________________________ _______

Belkin wireless router WAN/LAN problem
Hi, I have a Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router and I am trying to set it
up in my
house with CAT 5 outlets in several rooms (one outlet per room). ...
alt.internet.wireless - Jul 29 2006, 9:36 pm by Robert Coe - 11
messages - 4 authors

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Belkin 802.11g Wireless card F5D7001 card
Thanks for the help looks like a Belkin router might be the answer. I
just recently
purchased a Belkin 802.11g Wireless card F5D7001 card. ...
alt.internet.wireless - Feb 20 2005, 12:45 am by @Winkie - 7 messages -
5 authors

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Belkin F5D7633 ADSL modem, router and highspeed wireless access ...
I choose the Belkin F5D7633 ADSL modem, router and highspeed wireless
access point,
which is connected to a Netgear FM114P router, printer server and
wireless ...
alt.internet.wireless - Apr 27 2006, 9:08 pm by nemo2 - 1 message - 1
author

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Belkin vs 3Com
.... I came across the Belkin F5D7633UK4A, which someone said was the
same hardware as
the 3Com one; and it's available from broadbandbuyer, who will ship to
my ...
uk.telecom.broadband - Aug 31 2006, 7:48 pm by Gaz - 5 messages - 3
authors


------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Belkin router
.... network. These are handled by a Belkin FSD 7632-4 router. I ...
internet. I
can't even access the Belkin's configuration page. However ...
uk.comp.home-networking - Apr 22 2006, 2:06 pm by Conor - 13 messages -
7 authors

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

ipaq 3650 with Belkin CF WIFI card - connection problems
spambegone.coSun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:39 (Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:39)
about "Re: ipaq
3650 with Belkin CF WIFI card - connection problems": I can't get my
iPAQ ...
microsoft.public.pocketpc - Jan 17 2005, 10:10 am by Sooner Al - 6
messages - 3 authors

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Installing a Belkin wireless router on a network with two ...
I bought a Belkin wireless router (part # F5D7230-4) and a Belkin
notebook
card (F5D7010) so that I can network my new laptop computer. ...
comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows - Apr 26 2005, 3:51 pm by Daniel
Prince - 5 messages - 3 authors

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can Belkin router connect to airport base station?
I can see my Ibook seperately on the Belkin Router and it naturally
assigned it
an ip address, however how do configure safari to use the shared
connection? ...
comp.sys.mac.comm - Dec 4 2004, 7:09 am by Bob Harris - 5 messages

__________________________________________________ ___________________

Where are the complaints? People are asking for help rather then
complaining. They aren't complaining because BELKIN is a better
product.

The rate of complaints is not as bad as the nature of complaints.
Linksys causes problems while most complaints are about a product not
working. In this case the product is hurting people's computer
systems. I am not saying that Linksys software contains a virus only
that the software is buggy and creates problems. However if one product
merely didn't work and another contained a virus then the product
with the virus would be far worse then one that merely didn't work to
spite the rate of complaints.

Linksys shouldn't sell a product that hurts its customers. The
responsible thing would be to remove the harmful products from stores
and offer people who brought the product a fix. They don't even offer
fix. All they would have to do is apologize and put a fix on their web
site and I would not have complained at all. I went to the site and
nothing was mentioned. I checked out their forum people are asking to
help and they are being ignored by Linksys and the only help that is
get is from other users.



ALL LINKSYS NEEDS TO DO IS OFFER A FIX ON THEIR WEB SITE

The number of complaints does not control for the popularity of a
product. A good product with a low RATE of complaints will likely have
a large number of complaints because of high sales. If a product had a
1% percent complaint rate then a 1,000,000 sales would yield 1000
complaints. If a product had a 50% percent complaint rate then a 100
sales would yield 50 complaints. Moreover this idea doesn't address
the rate of complaint per discussion. If most discussions about a
product are positive and another product most discussions are negative
that indicates a difference in the quality of a product. So talking a
random sample based on Google rate of relevance yields this about
BELKIN.

__________________________________________________ _______

Belkin wireless router WAN/LAN problem
Hi, I have a Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router and I am trying to set it
up in my
house with CAT 5 outlets in several rooms (one outlet per room). ...
alt.internet.wireless - Jul 29 2006, 9:36 pm by Robert Coe - 11
messages - 4 authors

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Belkin 802.11g Wireless card F5D7001 card
Thanks for the help looks like a Belkin router might be the answer. I
just recently
purchased a Belkin 802.11g Wireless card F5D7001 card. ...
alt.internet.wireless - Feb 20 2005, 12:45 am by @Winkie - 7 messages -
5 authors

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Belkin F5D7633 ADSL modem, router and highspeed wireless access ...
I choose the Belkin F5D7633 ADSL modem, router and highspeed wireless
access point,
which is connected to a Netgear FM114P router, printer server and
wireless ...
alt.internet.wireless - Apr 27 2006, 9:08 pm by nemo2 - 1 message - 1
author

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Belkin vs 3Com
.... I came across the Belkin F5D7633UK4A, which someone said was the
same hardware as
the 3Com one; and it's available from broadbandbuyer, who will ship to
my ...
uk.telecom.broadband - Aug 31 2006, 7:48 pm by Gaz - 5 messages - 3
authors


------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Belkin router
.... network. These are handled by a Belkin FSD 7632-4 router. I ...
internet. I
can't even access the Belkin's configuration page. However ...
uk.comp.home-networking - Apr 22 2006, 2:06 pm by Conor - 13 messages -
7 authors

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

ipaq 3650 with Belkin CF WIFI card - connection problems
spambegone.coSun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:39 (Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:39)
about "Re: ipaq
3650 with Belkin CF WIFI card - connection problems": I can't get my
iPAQ ...
microsoft.public.pocketpc - Jan 17 2005, 10:10 am by Sooner Al - 6
messages - 3 authors

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Installing a Belkin wireless router on a network with two ...
I bought a Belkin wireless router (part # F5D7230-4) and a Belkin
notebook
card (F5D7010) so that I can network my new laptop computer. ...
comp.os.ms-windows.networking.windows - Apr 26 2005, 3:51 pm by Daniel
Prince - 5 messages - 3 authors

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Can Belkin router connect to airport base station?
I can see my Ibook seperately on the Belkin Router and it naturally
assigned it
an ip address, however how do configure safari to use the shared
connection? ...
comp.sys.mac.comm - Dec 4 2004, 7:09 am by Bob Harris - 5 messages

__________________________________________________ ___________________

Where are the complaints? People are asking for help rather then
complaining. They aren't complaining because BELKIN is a better
product.

The rate of complaints is not as bad as the nature of complaints.
Linksys causes problems while most complaints are about a product not
working. In this case the product is hurting people's computer
systems. I am not saying that Linksys software contains a virus only
that the software is buggy and creates problems. However if one product
merely didn't work and another contained a virus then the product
with the virus would be far worse then one that merely didn't work to
spite the rate of complaints.

Linksys shouldn't sell a product that hurts its customers. The
responsible thing would be to remove the harmful products from stores
and offer people who brought the product a fix. They don't even offer
fix. All they would have to do is apologize and put a fix on their web
site and I would not have complained at all. I went to the site and
nothing was mentioned. I checked out their forum people are asking to
help and they are being ignored by Linksys and the only help that is
get is from other users.



ALL LINKSYS NEEDS TO DO IS OFFER A FIX ON THEIR WEB SITE

.. I wrote that.
>
> So, you bought a BEFW11S4 at CompUSA? I can see you did zero research
> before buying. Linksys doesn't manufacture anything. They put their
> name on products thrown together by various international
> manufactories. Some are really good. Some are crap. You apparently
> bought crap. However, you don't seem to care about getting help
> making your purchase work. You're only interesting in complaining and
> attracting comments.


I know how to fix the problem. As for buying the product a friend who
knows computers got it for me. He made a mistake in not realizing that
Linksys and Compusa would knowingly sell a malicious product. By the
way selling malicious products is wrong even if you don't think so.

You blame me for that fact that Linksys is hurting people's systems.
You clearly have no sense of responsibility and blame the victim rather
then the criminal.

chicagofan wrote:
> flamestar wrote:
> > I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
> > in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
> > but ripoffs.
> >
> Gross exaggeration won't help you much. Have you tried explaining what
> product you have, what you did... and what resulted... exactly?
> bj

Good answer. I got the Linksys compact Wireless-G USB Adapter and later
found that it took away my log in screen and made it impossible to
switcher users. I am pretty sure I know how to fix it. My problem with
linksys USB compact is they are selling a product that hurts people's
computers.

"flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> wrote in message>
> You blame me for that fact that Linksys is hurting people's systems.
> You clearly have no sense of responsibility and blame the victim rather
> then the criminal.

You've still yet to say what exactly was harmed by using a linksys
product... and I really don't think compusa has anything to do with linksys
being crappy or not.. There are a ton of places that sell linksys products..
Persoanlly you are a moron.

Adair

"flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> wrote in message >
> No you are the corporate phony who defends every bad product. Why
> should I mention my platform as you are not interred in helping anyone?
> Besides I know how to fix it.
>

Troll

"flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>. I wrote that.
>>
>> So, you bought a BEFW11S4 at CompUSA? I can see you did zero research
>> before buying. Linksys doesn't manufacture anything. They put their
>> name on products thrown together by various international
>> manufactories. Some are really good. Some are crap. You apparently
>> bought crap. However, you don't seem to care about getting help
>> making your purchase work. You're only interesting in complaining and
>> attracting comments.

>I know how to fix the problem.

What problem? What product? Is it a secret?

>As for buying the product a friend who
>knows computers got it for me.

So, you're blaming Linksys and CompUSA for your friends lack of
experience, lack of research, and lack of product knowledge. When I
recommend a product to a customer, and it turns out to be a lemon, I
end up dealing with the issues and sometimes eating the costs. Where's
your friend now? That's also why I hesistate to recommend anything I
haven't personally tried and have a clue how it works.

>He made a mistake in not realizing that
>Linksys and Compusa would knowingly sell a malicious product. By the
>way selling malicious products is wrong even if you don't think so.

Malicious?
"Having the nature of or resulting from malice; deliberately
harmful; spiteful."
So, Linksys and CompUSA conspired to intentionally sell you a product
that was specifically intended to trash your computah and ruin your
day? Are you suggesting that they did it intentionally? You should
be honored that they would consider you worthy of their collective
malicious attention. Perhaps you're being a bit overly paranoid?

>You blame me for that fact that Linksys is hurting people's systems.

Sure. The first step to solving a problem is to blame someone. You'll
do quite nicely.

>You clearly have no sense of responsibility and blame the victim rather
>then the criminal.

Victim? You did create a Windoze restore point before installing the
software? Surely you understand why one does this. Did you bother to
download the latest drivers or firmware? I don't blame the victim
because there is no victim. Only a clueless user, who is fishing for
a culprit to substitute for his own lack of experience. If anything,
Linksys and CompUSA are about to become victims as they loose money
every time someone returns a product.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

flamestar wrote:
> chicagofan wrote:
>> flamestar wrote:
>>> I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
>>> in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
>>> but ripoffs.
>>>
>> Gross exaggeration won't help you much. Have you tried explaining what
>> product you have, what you did... and what resulted... exactly?
>> bj
>
> Good answer. I got the Linksys compact Wireless-G USB Adapter and later
> found that it took away my log in screen and made it impossible to
> switcher users. I am pretty sure I know how to fix it. My problem with
> linksys USB compact is they are selling a product that hurts people's
> computers.
>
I bought one of those, plugged it in and set it up with no problems.
Still working just fine 10 months later.

On 14 Jan 2007 09:47:51 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , "flamestar"
<agnifire@gmail.com> wrote:
>Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>> Are you the one who blames everything, everyone but yourself when things
>> don't go well? What's wrong with Linksys? You did not even mention your
>> hardware platform, OS, or problem you incurred.
>
>No you are the corporate phony who defends every bad product.

So when someone criticizes you, your natural reaction is to call them
a shill or sockpuppet. Grown up of you.

>Why should I mention my platform as you are not interred in helping anyone?

Perhaps so that the several dozen knowledgeable people here can help
you.

>Besides I know how to fix it.

Then why did you waste our time?

--
Mark McIntyre

flamestar <agnifire@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> flamestar wrote:
>>
>> > I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
>> > in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
>> > but ripoffs.
>> >
>> Hmmm.
>> Are you the one who blames everything, everyone but yourself when things
>> don't go well? What's wrong with Linksys? You did not even mention your
>> hardware platform, OS, or problem you incurred.
>
> No you are the corporate phony who defends every bad product. Why
> should I mention my platform as you are not interred in helping anyone?
> Besides I know how to fix it.
>
If you know how to fix it, then why are you whining here? Just go and
fix it!

Jerry

"flamestar" <agnifire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168798451.724633.97470@51g2000cwl.googlegrou ps.com...
> I know how to fix the problem. As for buying the product a friend who
> knows computers got it for me. He made a mistake in not realizing that
> Linksys and Compusa would knowingly sell a malicious product. By the
> way selling malicious products is wrong even if you don't think so.
>
> You blame me for that fact that Linksys is hurting people's systems.
> You clearly have no sense of responsibility and blame the victim rather
> then the criminal.

Linksys and Compusa aren't conspiring together to mess up people's
computers.

If this router isn't meeting your expectations, why not just return it for
something else?

The BEFW11S4 is pretty old, anyway. Its even for going for $10 on Ebay.

All the consumer wireless stuff by Linksys, DLink, Belkin, Hawking, etc, is
"junk" -- but, it is "junk that usually works fairly well for home use".
Thrown together, no real technical support, etc, is all just nature of the
beast. All these brands have models that work fairly well for home use,
while at the same time have models that have issues. Before you buy home
consumer wireless stuff, you really need to read some reviews on different
products first so you can aquaint yourself with their known issues and
limitations. Again, its just the nature of this beast. Its also possible
that you just got a bad piece of hardware.

There is a reason, other than just name, why Cisco products are much more
expensive...

flamestar wrote:

> Adair Witner wrote:
>
>>"decaturtxcowboy" <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>Perhaps one reason Linksys was listed so often is that its been sold in
>>>Walmart at least two years before Belkin.
>>>
>>>Consider the average skill set level of Walmart shoppers.
>>
>>It's likely that the linksys sucks query is so much higher because they sell
>>so much product.
>>Skill and general understand have a lot to do with the way someone perceives
>>a product....
>>
>>Adair
>
>
> The rate of complaint is important not the number of complaints. A
> random sample of messages yeild a high rate of complaints for linksys.
> Moreover the kind of complains is import and linksys hurts computers
> rather then merely not work.
>
Hi,
The term, rate implies it has to be based on simple math.
If 100 is sold and 20 complains the rate is 20%. If 10,000 is sold and
200 complains it is 2%. You do the rest. You can just directly compare
two numbers. So far I never had trouble with Linksys anything.
(Oh! I had one bad power adapter which was easy to figure out)
Only bad experience I had was with a D-link card bus WiFi card. It
ruined Windows registry but I had a back up. No more D-link since.

flamestar wrote:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>>flamestar wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I bought a linksys wireless adopet fromn Compusa. It scredew up mu log
>>>in screen. Lyksys is nothing but a rip off and COMPUSA sells nothing
>>>but ripoffs.
>>>
>>
>>Hmmm.
>>Are you the one who blames everything, everyone but yourself when things
>>don't go well? What's wrong with Linksys? You did not even mention your
>>hardware platform, OS, or problem you incurred.
>
>
> No you are the corporate phony who defends every bad product. Why
> should I mention my platform as you are not interred in helping anyone?
> Besides I know how to fix it.
>
Hmmm,
I am retired I don't side with anyone. I think you are troll.
If you know how to fix it then why are you bashing Linksys.
I don't bad mouth anything when I fix problem(s). Cars, appliances,
computers, you name it.

Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> hath wroth:

>The term, rate implies it has to be based on simple math.

For calendar 2005, there were approximately 140 million wi-fi chipsets
predicted to be sold by the major manufactories. The rate of increase
is approximately 50% per year. It's a fair assumption that about half
or more will end up in products sold in the USA. Of these, 40 million
chipsets were intended for wireless routers and access points world
wide. You can scrape some interesting numbers from various market
research pages such as:
<http://www.instat.com/catalog/wcatalogue.asp?ID=167&year=2005#IN0501813NT>
As I vaguely recall, the 140 million and 40 million numbers turned out
to be rather conservative, but I'm too lazy to excavate the real
numbers for 2006. Foundit. 200 million chipsets for 2006.
<http://midmarket.eweek.com/article/WiFi+Chipset+Sales+Expected+To+Grow+25+in+2006/196005_1.aspx>

Now for the math. About half the chipsets sold will end up in the
USA. So, we have 100 million chipsets for 3.7 million square miles.
That makes 27 radios for every square mile in the USA, not counting
chipsets sold prior to 2006. If I include chipsets sold in 2005 (half
of 160 million), I get 49 radios per square mile in the USA. No
wonder I'm seeing interference.

Another way to look at it is that are about 31.5 million seconds each
year. 200 million chipsets worldwide each year is about 6.3 radios
sold every second, 24 hours per day. Kinda like a deluge?

Isn't math fun?


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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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GEEZ!!!



"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
news:lgdlq2lqioca1ptrapd6ns7397b0m0e91k@4ax.com...
> Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> hath wroth:
>
>>The term, rate implies it has to be based on simple math.
>
> For calendar 2005, there were approximately 140 million wi-fi chipsets
> predicted to be sold by the major manufactories. The rate of increase
> is approximately 50% per year. It's a fair assumption that about half
> or more will end up in products sold in the USA. Of these, 40 million
> chipsets were intended for wireless routers and access points world
> wide. You can scrape some interesting numbers from various market
> research pages such as:
> <http://www.instat.com/catalog/wcatalogue.asp?ID=167&year=2005#IN0501813NT>
> As I vaguely recall, the 140 million and 40 million numbers turned out
> to be rather conservative, but I'm too lazy to excavate the real
> numbers for 2006. Foundit. 200 million chipsets for 2006.
> <http://midmarket.eweek.com/article/WiFi+Chipset+Sales+Expected+To+Grow+25+in+2006/196005_1.aspx>
>
> Now for the math. About half the chipsets sold will end up in the
> USA. So, we have 100 million chipsets for 3.7 million square miles.
> That makes 27 radios for every square mile in the USA, not counting
> chipsets sold prior to 2006. If I include chipsets sold in 2005 (half
> of 160 million), I get 49 radios per square mile in the USA. No
> wonder I'm seeing interference.
>
> Another way to look at it is that are about 31.5 million seconds each
> year. 200 million chipsets worldwide each year is about 6.3 radios
> sold every second, 24 hours per day. Kinda like a deluge?
>
> Isn't math fun?
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

I forget, what's the term for people who make provocative comments on a
forum or group in order to get a reaction?

It's a variation on the old "I irritate, therefore I am" !

It worked!

But this is such a group that people turn the irritation into an
opportunity to discuss.

Cool.

Steve

seaweedsteve wrote:
> I forget, what's the term for people who make provocative comments on a
> forum or group in order to get a reaction?
>
> It's a variation on the old "I irritate, therefore I am" !
>
> It worked!
>
> But this is such a group that people turn the irritation into an
> opportunity to discuss.
>
> Cool.
>
> Steve
>
Hi,
Quality of civil majority.

> If you know how to fix it, then why are you whining here? Just go and
> fix it!
>
> Jerry

Why are you here is all you want to do is put down peple who warn
others about bad products.

Jim