I've used a WRT54G for about two years, and for almost all of that
time I've run third-party firmware (currently DD-WRT v23 SP1 Final). I
now have access to a WRT54GS version
4.0. <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> tells me that my
WRT54GS doesn't have any more RAM or flash and isn't any faster than
my WRT54G, and that the only additional hardware feature is the 54GS's
SpeedBoost, which I can't use anyway because I don't have any Linksys
SpeedBoost-compliant wireless cards. Thus, there's no particular
advantage in swapping out the 54G for the 54GS. Is this correct?
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
Yeechang Lee wrote:
> I've used a WRT54G for about two years, and for almost all of that
> time I've run third-party firmware (currently DD-WRT v23 SP1 Final). I
> now have access to a WRT54GS version
> 4.0. <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> tells me that my
> WRT54GS doesn't have any more RAM or flash and isn't any faster than
> my WRT54G, and that the only additional hardware feature is the 54GS's
> SpeedBoost, which I can't use anyway because I don't have any Linksys
> SpeedBoost-compliant wireless cards. Thus, there's no particular
> advantage in swapping out the 54G for the 54GS. Is this correct?
That is totally correct, you would gain absolutely nothing by changing....
However, you wouldn't be much of a consumer if you didn't buy something that
will do absolutely nothing for you (cept cause trouble), and support the
economy by spending money wastefully.. If you don't waste money on the
newest things that are being advertised, you run the risk of being called
"frugal"...
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
"Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
>However, you wouldn't be much of a consumer if you didn't buy something that
>will do absolutely nothing for you (cept cause trouble), and support the
>economy by spending money wastefully.
Yeah, let's all jump on the MIMO/Pre-N/Draft-N/Real-N bandwagon! 8*)
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:34:09 -0400, "Peter Pan"
<PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
: Yeechang Lee wrote:
: > I've used a WRT54G for about two years, and for almost all of that
: > time I've run third-party firmware (currently DD-WRT v23 SP1 Final). I
: > now have access to a WRT54GS version
: > 4.0. <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> tells me that my
: > WRT54GS doesn't have any more RAM or flash and isn't any faster than
: > my WRT54G, and that the only additional hardware feature is the 54GS's
: > SpeedBoost, which I can't use anyway because I don't have any Linksys
: > SpeedBoost-compliant wireless cards. Thus, there's no particular
: > advantage in swapping out the 54G for the 54GS. Is this correct?
:
: That is totally correct, you would gain absolutely nothing by changing....
:
: However, you wouldn't be much of a consumer if you didn't buy something that
: will do absolutely nothing for you (cept cause trouble), and support the
: economy by spending money wastefully.. If you don't waste money on the
: newest things that are being advertised, you run the risk of being called
: "frugal"...
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
Robert Coe wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:34:09 -0400, "Peter Pan"
> <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote:
> : Yeechang Lee wrote:
> : > I've used a WRT54G for about two years, and for almost all of that
> : > time I've run third-party firmware (currently DD-WRT v23 SP1 Final). I
> : > now have access to a WRT54GS version
> : > 4.0. <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> tells me that my
> : > WRT54GS doesn't have any more RAM or flash and isn't any faster than
> : > my WRT54G, and that the only additional hardware feature is the 54GS's
> : > SpeedBoost, which I can't use anyway because I don't have any Linksys
> : > SpeedBoost-compliant wireless cards. Thus, there's no particular
> : > advantage in swapping out the 54G for the 54GS. Is this correct?
> :
> : That is totally correct, you would gain absolutely nothing by changing....
> :
> : However, you wouldn't be much of a consumer if you didn't buy something that
> : will do absolutely nothing for you (cept cause trouble), and support the
> : economy by spending money wastefully.. If you don't waste money on the
> : newest things that are being advertised, you run the risk of being called
> : "frugal"...
>
> or even "miserly".
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On 22 Jul 2006 03:30:19 GMT, Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:
>I've used a WRT54G for about two years, and for almost all of that
>time I've run third-party firmware (currently DD-WRT v23 SP1 Final). I
>now have access to a WRT54GS version
>4.0. <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> tells me that my
>WRT54GS doesn't have any more RAM or flash and isn't any faster than
>my WRT54G, and that the only additional hardware feature is the 54GS's
>SpeedBoost, which I can't use anyway because I don't have any Linksys
>SpeedBoost-compliant wireless cards. Thus, there's no particular
>advantage in swapping out the 54G for the 54GS. Is this correct?
On 22 Jul 2006 03:30:19 GMT, Yeechang Lee <ylee@pobox.com> wrote:
>I've used a WRT54G for about two years, and for almost all of that
>time I've run third-party firmware (currently DD-WRT v23 SP1 Final). I
>now have access to a WRT54GS version
>4.0. <URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> tells me that my
>WRT54GS doesn't have any more RAM or flash and isn't any faster than
>my WRT54G, and that the only additional hardware feature is the 54GS's
>SpeedBoost, which I can't use anyway because I don't have any Linksys
>SpeedBoost-compliant wireless cards. Thus, there's no particular
>advantage in swapping out the 54G for the 54GS. Is this correct?
I experienced 5 months of frustration trying to get my wireless system
working using Linksys router and adapter (same model as above). I
was finally told the problem was a conflict between the MS and the
Linksys Adapter Utility. One phone tech then told me that the 54GS
version resolves the conflict, which annoyed me because they had
apparently known of the conflict and were already working on a
solution while I was going through all this.
However, I did not go that route. I switched to the MS (WZC).
Having not used my laptop for a couple months, I have today discovered
that my laptop and desktop are no longer networked. I could scream! I
recently upgraded my NIS -- could that be the problem? Could the
switch to WZC have caused the problem?
I started to use the Network Wizard but stopped right away, because I
don't even know if I'm supposed to check the box for the 1394
connection (mine is connected) or the Local Area connection (mine says
it's unplugged).
I have the MS firewall turned off. Can anyone point me to the
starting place to get my two computers networked?
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:30:56 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
<onocc2lmglllg8so7l4ipf1h7h52hbp647@4ax.com>:
>I experienced 5 months of frustration trying to get my wireless system
>working using Linksys router and adapter (same model as above). I
>was finally told the problem was a conflict between the MS and the
>Linksys Adapter Utility. One phone tech then told me that the 54GS
>version resolves the conflict, which annoyed me because they had
>apparently known of the conflict and were already working on a
>solution while I was going through all this.
>
>However, I did not go that route. I switched to the MS (WZC).
>
>Having not used my laptop for a couple months, I have today discovered
>that my laptop and desktop are no longer networked. I could scream! I
>recently upgraded my NIS -- could that be the problem? Could the
>switch to WZC have caused the problem?
>
>I started to use the Network Wizard but stopped right away, because I
>don't even know if I'm supposed to check the box for the 1394
>connection (mine is connected) or the Local Area connection (mine says
>it's unplugged).
>
>I have the MS firewall turned off. Can anyone point me to the
>starting place to get my two computers networked?
What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
as a troubleshooting starting point.
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Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:54 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:30:56 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
><onocc2lmglllg8so7l4ipf1h7h52hbp647@4ax.com>:
>
>>I experienced 5 months of frustration trying to get my wireless system
>>working using Linksys router and adapter (same model as above). I
>>was finally told the problem was a conflict between the MS and the
>>Linksys Adapter Utility. One phone tech then told me that the 54GS
>>version resolves the conflict, which annoyed me because they had
>>apparently known of the conflict and were already working on a
>>solution while I was going through all this.
>>
>>However, I did not go that route. I switched to the MS (WZC).
>>
>>Having not used my laptop for a couple months, I have today discovered
>>that my laptop and desktop are no longer networked. I could scream! I
>>recently upgraded my NIS -- could that be the problem? Could the
>>switch to WZC have caused the problem?
>>
>>I started to use the Network Wizard but stopped right away, because I
>>don't even know if I'm supposed to check the box for the 1394
>>connection (mine is connected) or the Local Area connection (mine says
>>it's unplugged).
>>
>>I have the MS firewall turned off. Can anyone point me to the
>>starting place to get my two computers networked?
>
>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>as a troubleshooting starting point.
I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
laptop are no longer networked, as they were up till a few months ago.
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:04:26 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:54 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:30:56 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
>><onocc2lmglllg8so7l4ipf1h7h52hbp647@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>I experienced 5 months of frustration trying to get my wireless system
>>>working using Linksys router and adapter (same model as above). I
>>>was finally told the problem was a conflict between the MS and the
>>>Linksys Adapter Utility. One phone tech then told me that the 54GS
>>>version resolves the conflict, which annoyed me because they had
>>>apparently known of the conflict and were already working on a
>>>solution while I was going through all this.
>>>
>>>However, I did not go that route. I switched to the MS (WZC).
>>>
>>>Having not used my laptop for a couple months, I have today discovered
>>>that my laptop and desktop are no longer networked. I could scream! I
>>>recently upgraded my NIS -- could that be the problem? Could the
>>>switch to WZC have caused the problem?
>>>
>>>I started to use the Network Wizard but stopped right away, because I
>>>don't even know if I'm supposed to check the box for the 1394
>>>connection (mine is connected) or the Local Area connection (mine says
>>>it's unplugged).
>>>
>>>I have the MS firewall turned off. Can anyone point me to the
>>>starting place to get my two computers networked?
>>
>>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>>as a troubleshooting starting point.
>
>
>I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
>laptop are no longer networked, as they were up till a few months ago.
>>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>>as a troubleshooting starting point.
>
>I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
In the wireless router as well.
>laptop are no longer networked, as they were up till a few months ago.
I need the "exact symptom" of the problem. "Doctor, it hurts," isn't
enough to go on.
What does "no longer networked" mean? Are the computers visible to each
other? SharedDocs folders? Can they ping each other? Is it just other
shares that aren't visible? etc.
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Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:19:05 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:04:26 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
><7nqcc2h32oj0vvl4dhhed11vm3q46hdnj1@4ax.com>:
>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:54 GMT, John Navas
>><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>>>as a troubleshooting starting point.
>>
>>I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
>
>In the wireless router as well.
I don't know what "in the wireless router as well" means.
>>laptop are no longer networked, as they were up till a few months ago.
>I need the "exact symptom" of the problem. "Doctor, it hurts," isn't
>enough to go on.
>What does "no longer networked" mean? Are the computers visible to each
>other? SharedDocs folders? Can they ping each other? Is it just other
>shares that aren't visible? etc.
I'm not computer-sophisticated. To me, if I "checked My Network
Places" and report " my desktop and laptop are no longer networked,"
that means the computers are no longer visible to each other (they are
not listed in each other's Network Places).
I've never used "SharedDocs folders." I only used the Briefcase
feature.
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:31:59 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
<ivrcc2dc0vrei110250uv7t7dgom14db0d@4ax.com>:
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:19:05 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:04:26 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
>><7nqcc2h32oj0vvl4dhhed11vm3q46hdnj1@4ax.com>:
>>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:54 GMT, John Navas
>>><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>>>>as a troubleshooting starting point.
>>>
>>>I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
>>
>>In the wireless router as well.
>
>I don't know what "in the wireless router as well" means.
No encryption (WEP or WPA).
No MAC filtering.
No SSID hiding.
No blocking.
>>>laptop are no longer networked, as they were up till a few months ago.
>
>>I need the "exact symptom" of the problem. "Doctor, it hurts," isn't
>>enough to go on.
>>What does "no longer networked" mean? Are the computers visible to each
>>other? SharedDocs folders? Can they ping each other? Is it just other
>>shares that aren't visible? etc.
>
>I'm not computer-sophisticated. To me, if I "checked My Network
>Places" and report " my desktop and laptop are no longer networked,"
>that means the computers are no longer visible to each other (they are
>not listed in each other's Network Places).
You didn't say that before. Thanks for the additional info -- that's
helpful. Unfortunately, there can be lots of different causes.
What happens when you Search for them?
What happens when you use the NET VIEW command? See below.
>I've never used "SharedDocs folders." I only used the Briefcase
>feature.
That only works over a network with correctly configured sharing.
NET VIEW of the shares of one computer (named JohnsTP) on my own LAN:
>net view \\JohnsTP
Shared resources at \\JohnsTP
John Navas' ThinkPad
Share name Type Used as Comment
-----------------------------------------
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.
The only visible shared resource is "SharedDocs".
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Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:01:37 GMT, John Navas
>>>><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>>>>>as a troubleshooting starting point.
>>>>I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
>>>In the wireless router as well.
>>I don't know what "in the wireless router as well" means.
>No encryption (WEP or WPA).
>No MAC filtering.
>No SSID hiding.
>No blocking.
These phrases obviously aren't intended to actually help me, and so
it's not surprising that they *don't* help me. I've no idea what they
mean or what they're supposed to be prompting me to do.
>>>>laptop are no longer networked, as they were up till a few months ago.
>>
>>>I need the "exact symptom" of the problem. "Doctor, it hurts," isn't
>>>enough to go on.
>>>What does "no longer networked" mean? Are the computers visible to each
>>>other? SharedDocs folders? Can they ping each other? Is it just other
>>>shares that aren't visible? etc.
>>
>>I'm not computer-sophisticated. To me, if I "checked My Network
>>Places" and report " my desktop and laptop are no longer networked,"
>>that means the computers are no longer visible to each other (they are
>>not listed in each other's Network Places).
>
>You didn't say that before. Thanks for the additional info -- that's
>helpful.
No. I *did* say that before. I said I checked My Network Places and
saw that my desktop and laptop were no longer networked. Now what
precisely might I have see that conveyed that unwelcome truth to me??
Ah yes!! they were not listed. Intuition, John, can fill in many
blanks, if one wants the blanks filled in. You obviously didn't.
>What happens when you Search for them?
I'm afraid I wouldln't know what to Search for. : (
>What happens when you use the NET VIEW command? See below.
I've never used NET VIEW, but I'll certainly check it out.
>>I've never used "SharedDocs folders." I only used the Briefcase
>>feature.
>
>That only works over a network with correctly configured sharing.
Really?!??!? Well then we're back at the beginning, aren't we.... I
said "my disktop and my laptop are no longer networked, as they were
up till a few months ago."
That says there WAS, until a few months ago, a "correctly configured
network." And my question was, can anyone tell me what might have
caused the heretofore correctly configured network to vanish, without
a trace, so to speak.
>>I don't know how to "ping."
I'll check this out, too -- the problem will be trying to figure out
what the result tells me about how to solve my problem.
>NET VIEW of the shares of one computer (named JohnsTP) on my own LAN:
>
> >net view \\JohnsTP
> Shared resources at \\JohnsTP
>
> John Navas' ThinkPad
>
> Share name Type Used as Comment
>
> -----------------------------------------
> SharedDocs Disk
> The command completed successfully.
>
>The only visible shared resource is "SharedDocs".
Thank you for this information. I only wish I knew how to make use of
it.
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:31:59 -0400, in alt.internet.wireless , MOB
<mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:19:05 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:04:26 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
>><7nqcc2h32oj0vvl4dhhed11vm3q46hdnj1@4ax.com>:
>>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:55:54 GMT, John Navas
>>><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>What is the exact symptom of your problem? Try turning off all security
>>>>as a troubleshooting starting point.
>>>
>>>I turned off NIS and NAV, checked My Network Places and my desktop and
>>
>>In the wireless router as well.
>
>I don't know what "in the wireless router as well" means.
He means disable WEP/WPA security in your router.
>
>I don't know how to "ping."
On any OS you care to mention except MacOS9 and TOS, open a command
prompt and type
Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:23:58 -0400, MOB <mobrien11@comcast.net> wrote in
<jj5dc2pu47mbq56d7dnrq1ju1687s7p4at@4ax.com>:
>These phrases obviously aren't intended to actually help me, ...
Best of luck to you.
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Re: Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS?
> These phrases obviously aren't intended to actually help me, and so
> it's not surprising that they *don't* help me. I've no idea what they
> mean or what they're supposed to be prompting me to do.
Well, given your responses to messages in this thread it's clear you've got
issues. Start by picking up a 'For Dummies' book, one on wireless and
perhaps another one on networking. Otherwise you're just wasting your time
and pissing off folks that might otherwise be interested in trying to help
you.
Anything to gain by moving from WRT54G to 54GS? 
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