Apple Mac G4 Power book - apps for wifi

#1 (**permalink**) 07-12-2007, 09:46 PM

I'm a bit frustrated with the limited functionality of the apple installed
wifi adaptor in this G4.

It works but does not provide anything in the way of information on what's
going on. Are there any third party apps that provide more info on the AP
in the immediate area?

OS is 10.2

#2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2007, 11:16 PM

In article <nqwli.46$xv6.32@newsfe03.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> It works but does not provide anything in the way of information on what's
> going on. Are there any third party apps that provide more info on the AP
> in the immediate area?

Upgrade to 10.4, and we can talk. Maybe. What kind of "info" are you
looking for?
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W. Oates

#3 (**permalink**) 07-13-2007, 12:41 AM

"Warren Oates" <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4696a8df$0$23623$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
| In article <nqwli.46$xv6.32@newsfe03.lga>, "NotMe" <me@privacy.net>
| wrote:
|
| > It works but does not provide anything in the way of information on
what's
| > going on. Are there any third party apps that provide more info on the
AP
| > in the immediate area?
|
| Upgrade to 10.4, and we can talk. Maybe. What kind of "info" are you
| looking for?

Up grade will be the next gen in Oct. I'd like to be able to see what APs
are avaiable and a bit of info on each.

#4 (**permalink**) 07-13-2007, 09:55 AM

NotMe <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> I'm a bit frustrated with the limited functionality of the apple installed
> wifi adaptor in this G4.
>
> It works but does not provide anything in the way of information on what's
> going on. Are there any third party apps that provide more info on the AP
> in the immediate area?
>
> OS is 10.2

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17199

Use the pull-down menu to download KisMAC v0.12a for OS X 10.2.

#5 (**permalink**) 07-13-2007, 05:59 PM

"Axel Hammerschmidt" <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> NotMe <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm a bit frustrated with the limited functionality of the apple
>> installed
>> wifi adaptor in this G4.
>>
>> It works but does not provide anything in the way of information on
>> what's
>> going on. Are there any third party apps that provide more info on the
>> AP
>> in the immediate area?
>>
>> OS is 10.2
>
> http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17199
>
> Use the pull-down menu to download KisMAC v0.12a for OS X 10.2.

* Wasn't there also a Mac Stumbler available, similar to the NetStumbler?

http://www.google.com/search?source=...Mac%2BStumbler

* Watch out also for WEP keys in Hex. You have to tell the Airport that it
is Hex,
or else it will not connect. I've had this happen on several yacht customers
of mine.

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#6 (**permalink**) 07-13-2007, 06:54 PM

Alan Spicer <aspicer@marinetelecom.net> wrote:

> "Axel Hammerschmidt" <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1i16rn6.12njw9l1gewv28N%hlexa@hotmail.com...
>
> > NotMe <me@privacy.net> wrote:

<snip>

> >> OS is 10.2
> >
> > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17199
> >
> > Use the pull-down menu to download KisMAC v0.12a for OS X 10.2.
>
> * Wasn't there also a Mac Stumbler available, similar to the NetStumbler?

KisMAC will do a lot more than any stumbler. It can tell you when your
neighbours pretty daughter is ovulating, almost.

#7 (**permalink**) 07-13-2007, 09:02 PM

"Axel Hammerschmidt" <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Alan Spicer <aspicer@marinetelecom.net> wrote:
|
| > "Axel Hammerschmidt" <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:1i16rn6.12njw9l1gewv28N%hlexa@hotmail.com...
| >
| > > NotMe <me@privacy.net> wrote:
|
| <snip>
|
| > >> OS is 10.2
| > >
| > > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17199
| > >
| > > Use the pull-down menu to download KisMAC v0.12a for OS X 10.2.
| >
| > * Wasn't there also a Mac Stumbler available, similar to the
NetStumbler?
|
| KisMAC will do a lot more than any stumbler. It can tell you when your
| neighbours pretty daughter is ovulating, almost.

Considering that my neighbor's youngest daughter is in her late 60's ...

#8 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 03:48 AM

"Axel Hammerschmidt" <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> * Wasn't there also a Mac Stumbler available, similar to the NetStumbler?
>
> KisMAC will do a lot more than any stumbler. It can tell you when your
> neighbours pretty daughter is ovulating, almost.

* Okee doke. If anyone wants to send me a Mac I'll try it out. I may tell
one of my more technical customers to try it out for me :-)

I personally only run a Mac Emulator. I am a proud owner of Mac OS X 10.4.3
Tiger. Only use it to test stuff. Can't test wireless.

Thanks for the info, by the way. No hard feelings.

---
Alan Spicer

#9 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 11:22 AM

Alan Spicer <aspicer@marinetelecom.net> wrote:

> "Axel Hammerschmidt" <hlexa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1i17fwp.1ubz7rn1f4nvdiN%hlexa@hotmail.com...
> >> * Wasn't there also a Mac Stumbler available, similar to the NetStumbler?
> >
> > KisMAC will do a lot more than any stumbler. It can tell you when your
> > neighbours pretty daughter is ovulating, almost.
>
> * Okee doke. If anyone wants to send me a Mac I'll try it out. I may tell
> one of my more technical customers to try it out for me :-)
>
> I personally only run a Mac Emulator. I am a proud owner of Mac OS X 10.4.3
> Tiger. Only use it to test stuff. Can't test wireless.
>
> Thanks for the info, by the way. No hard feelings.

Same here. BTW, KisMAC is an OS X port of Kismet, which runs on Linux -
and BSD UNIX too, I think. You could try out Kismet. Both are free and
can do passive scanning and packet reinjection - with the right wireless
cards.

For Windows:

<http://www.tamos.com/products/commwifi>

-free for 30 days.

#10 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 11:48 AM

In article <GOWli.26940$p7.19631@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Alan Spicer" <aspicer@marinetelecom.net> wrote:

> I personally only run a Mac Emulator. I am a proud owner of Mac OS X 10.4.3
> Tiger. Only use it to test stuff. Can't test wireless.
>
> Thanks for the info, by the way. No hard feelings.

If you can, I'd upgrade to 10.4.10 -- it's a free download.
--
W. Oates

#11 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 01:24 PM

Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <GOWli.26940$p7.19631@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
> "Alan Spicer" <aspicer@marinetelecom.net> wrote:
>
> > I personally only run a Mac Emulator. I am a proud owner of Mac OS X 10.4.3
> > Tiger. Only use it to test stuff. Can't test wireless.
> >
> > Thanks for the info, by the way. No hard feelings.
>
> If you can, I'd upgrade to 10.4.10 -- it's a free download.

And with lots of bugs. Check microsoft's own Mac:office NGs first.

#12 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 01:50 PM

In article <1i18vk5.1cqaz7j1yejdi6N%hlexa@hotmail.com>,
hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel Hammerschmidt) wrote:

> And with lots of bugs. Check microsoft's own Mac:office NGs first.

Not here. My Office (student/teacher) works fine.
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#13 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 03:03 PM

Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <1i18vk5.1cqaz7j1yejdi6N%hlexa@hotmail.com>,
> hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel Hammerschmidt) wrote:
>
> > And with lots of bugs. Check microsoft's own Mac:office NGs first.
>
> Not here. My Office (student/teacher) works fine.

Off topic, still

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#14 (**permalink**) 07-14-2007, 05:08 PM

In article <1i190d6.1clrd501ujdhcsN%hlexa@hotmail.com>,
hlexa@hotmail.com (Axel Hammerschmidt) wrote:

> Off topic, still

I know, but still:

they read 10.4.10 as 10.4.1? Jesus H.

Only in Microshaft-land. They don't have leading zeros?
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