Can only share drives/folers one way

Ok, here's the deal

One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
The PC is wired to the router.
The laptop is connected wirelessly.
Both are Windows XP SP3
Both are on the same workgroup
both have static IP's in the routers range
both have sharing enabled folders
Both can ping each other
the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.

I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.

any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, here's the deal
>
> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
> The PC is wired to the router.
> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
> Both are Windows XP SP3
> Both are on the same workgroup
> both have static IP's in the routers range
> both have sharing enabled folders
> Both can ping each other
> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>
> I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
> than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.
>
> any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>

my one suggestion,

Open Windows Explorer, from the drop down select Tools, Folder Options then
the View tab.

Scroll to the bottom and make sure the Simple File Sharing box is ticked.

"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, here's the deal
>
> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
> The PC is wired to the router.
> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
> Both are Windows XP SP3
> Both are on the same workgroup
> both have static IP's in the routers range
> both have sharing enabled folders
> Both can ping each other
> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>
> I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
> than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.
>
> any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>

OK it has just come back to me so try this if the Simple File Sharing box is
already ticked

Open Windows Explorer, from the drop down select Tools, Folder Options then
the View tab. Scroll to the bottom and make sure the Simple File Sharing box
is NOT ticked.

Now in Windows Explorer, RMC a shared folder and select Sharing and
Security. You will now see a Security tab. This tab is only visible when the
Simple File Sharing box is NOT ticked. Select that tab. In Group and user
names Add 'Everyone'. In the lower box Permissions for Administrators tick
the appropriate boxes, all if you are not sure. Select OK.

Now try File Sharing.

If it works, go back to Tools, Folder Options, View tab. Scroll to the
bottom and now tick the Simple File Sharing box.

Again now try File sharing.....you might have to do a restart on both comps
for this to take effect.

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:56:56 +0100, "Tom E" <TE@btinternet.com> wrote:

Thanis for the thought, but it didn't work. Any new thoughts?
>
>"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
>news:aqqvu453skggo5m9gd57qdrs5d58b9m6pg@4ax.com.. .
>> Ok, here's the deal
>>
>> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
>> The PC is wired to the router.
>> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
>> Both are Windows XP SP3
>> Both are on the same workgroup
>> both have static IP's in the routers range
>> both have sharing enabled folders
>> Both can ping each other
>> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
>> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
>> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>>
>> I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
>> than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.
>>
>> any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>OK it has just come back to me so try this if the Simple File Sharing box is
>already ticked
>
>Open Windows Explorer, from the drop down select Tools, Folder Options then
>the View tab. Scroll to the bottom and make sure the Simple File Sharing box
>is NOT ticked.
>
>Now in Windows Explorer, RMC a shared folder and select Sharing and
>Security. You will now see a Security tab. This tab is only visible when the
>Simple File Sharing box is NOT ticked. Select that tab. In Group and user
>names Add 'Everyone'. In the lower box Permissions for Administrators tick
>the appropriate boxes, all if you are not sure. Select OK.
>
>Now try File Sharing.
>
>If it works, go back to Tools, Folder Options, View tab. Scroll to the
>bottom and now tick the Simple File Sharing box.
>
>Again now try File sharing.....you might have to do a restart on both comps
>for this to take effect.
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, here's the deal
>
> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
> The PC is wired to the router.
> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
> Both are Windows XP SP3
> Both are on the same workgroup
> both have static IP's in the routers range
> both have sharing enabled folders
> Both can ping each other
> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>
> I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
> than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.
>
> any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

okay, so you have an unamed wap/router, running unknown software,
you aren't running a dhcp server (why static?), one wired and one wireless
right? using windows firewall or something else? turn em off for now...

can they see themselves? both directly and by the network?

free thing to try (many other ways, i just happen to do it this way),
windows FILE explorer (not the internet explorer, FILE explorer comes free
with windows, but icon is not installed due to people confusing it with IE)
right click on the desktop, select new/shortcut/browse (windows
directory/find explorer.exe, and left click on it next screen name it or
leave it named explorer).....

now from that shortcut start it
(left side/my computer/local disk, right click on drive/select sharing and
security.... verify its shared and named)
and again, on left side, my network places/entire network/microsoft windows
network/....should be only one workgroup, and you should be able to see your
puter/shared directory/etc,
(you may/may not be able to see the other one too)

if they can see themselves reliably both direct and over the network, post
here again and we can continue on (suns coming up, this vampire is going to
bed) good luck...

On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:17:23 -0400, "Peter Pan"
<pponvistaNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

>
>"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
>news:aqqvu453skggo5m9gd57qdrs5d58b9m6pg@4ax.com.. .
>> Ok, here's the deal
>>
>> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
>> The PC is wired to the router.
>> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
>> Both are Windows XP SP3
>> Both are on the same workgroup
>> both have static IP's in the routers range
>> both have sharing enabled folders
>> Both can ping each other
>> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
>> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
>> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>>
>> I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
>> than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.
>>
>> any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>
>okay, so you have an unamed wap/router, running unknown software,

It's a D-Link WBR-2310, no "software" involved execept fot the setup
stuff
>you aren't running a dhcp server (why static?), one wired and one wireless
>right? using windows firewall or something else? turn em off for now..

Static to keep mappings in tact. Firewalls are both turned off.
>
>can they see themselves? both directly and by the network?

I think you have something here. The wireless machine CAN see the
wired machine, but it can't see itself!!!

Suggestions?

>
>free thing to try (many other ways, i just happen to do it this way),
>windows FILE explorer (not the internet explorer, FILE explorer comes free
>with windows, but icon is not installed due to people confusing it with IE)
>right click on the desktop, select new/shortcut/browse (windows
>directory/find explorer.exe, and left click on it next screen name it or
>leave it named explorer).....
>
>now from that shortcut start it
>(left side/my computer/local disk, right click on drive/select sharing and
>security.... verify its shared and named)
>and again, on left side, my network places/entire network/microsoft windows
>network/....should be only one workgroup, and you should be able to see your
>puter/shared directory/etc,
>(you may/may not be able to see the other one too)
>
>if they can see themselves reliably both direct and over the network, post
>here again and we can continue on (suns coming up, this vampire is going to
>bed) good luck...

"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
news:aqqvu453skggo5m9gd57qdrs5d58b9m6pg@4ax.com...
> Ok, here's the deal
>
> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
> The PC is wired to the router.
> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
> Both are Windows XP SP3
> Both are on the same workgroup
> both have static IP's in the routers range
> both have sharing enabled folders
> Both can ping each other
> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>
> I've tried dozens of IP, sharing, firewall, network settings, and more
> than a little prayer. It's driving me nuts.
>
> any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
>

I cannot see where you mention what security software you are using......it
too will require some tweaking.

"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>can they see themselves? both directly and by the network?
>
> I think you have something here. The wireless machine CAN see the
> wired machine, but it can't see itself!!!
>
> Suggestions?
>

well, you have it narrowed way down, not the wired network machine, nor the
router, nor the hardware part of the wireless machine, so it appears it's a
network/software problem on the wireless machine.... (you can see the other
machines on your network, but not yourself)

two suggestions, on the wireless machine, on your start menu do you have a
connect to?or in your control panel select network connections, and just do
a 'set up home or small office network"... sounds silly, will whack any
intentional changes, but it restores/redoes anything that may have gotten
whacky, and gives you a known point.... and you can always apply any
intentional changes again... What good is keeping changes in if it doesn't
work in the first place?

does your wireless machine have a wired port? if so, can you plug it in
temporarily (for testing, that will force it to use different stuff, but let
you know if it is the network itself or just the wireless network stuff) ...

will narrow the prob down even further (ie wireless/network/driver stuff on
the wireless machine) trick now is to determine if it is wired/wireless/ or
network problems, much easier to fix when you narrow down the problem to one
thing to focus on....

as always, good luck, and hope this debugging stuff doesn't drive you over
the edge, but if it's getting close, look at alt.suicide.... trust me, puter
problems are nothing compared to what they face, and most people like the
"it could be worse" comparison to their own problems.....

On 24/04/09 01:08, Jim wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:17:23 -0400, "Peter Pan"
> <pponvistaNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:
>
>> "Jim"<nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
>> news:aqqvu453skggo5m9gd57qdrs5d58b9m6pg@4ax.com...
>>> Ok, here's the deal
>>>
>>> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
>>> The PC is wired to the router.
>>> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
>>> Both are Windows XP SP3
>>> Both are on the same workgroup
>>> both have static IP's in the routers range
>>> both have sharing enabled folders
>>> Both can ping each other
>>> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
>>> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
>>> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.

Both PCs have identical user accounts set up with the same passwords?

This is the vital step that is generally missed out.

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:10:51 -0400, "Peter Pan"
<pponvistaNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:

Peter Pan,
Thank you for your knowlegable and patient assistance. After
enableing and diableing a pot-load of stuff, wireing and unwireing
myriad systems, racking my and your brains for a solution, I finally
noticed that I had a blank "Use the following DNS Address" box.

My bad. Now I am smarter and stronger.

Thanks again.

>
>"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
>news:7f02v45u30ia4v7hqq6uo3kesulbdtt50v@4ax.com.. .
>
>>>
>>>can they see themselves? both directly and by the network?
>>
>> I think you have something here. The wireless machine CAN see the
>> wired machine, but it can't see itself!!!
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>
>well, you have it narrowed way down, not the wired network machine, nor the
>router, nor the hardware part of the wireless machine, so it appears it's a
>network/software problem on the wireless machine.... (you can see the other
>machines on your network, but not yourself)
>
>two suggestions, on the wireless machine, on your start menu do you have a
>connect to?or in your control panel select network connections, and just do
>a 'set up home or small office network"... sounds silly, will whack any
>intentional changes, but it restores/redoes anything that may have gotten
>whacky, and gives you a known point.... and you can always apply any
>intentional changes again... What good is keeping changes in if it doesn't
>work in the first place?
>
>does your wireless machine have a wired port? if so, can you plug it in
>temporarily (for testing, that will force it to use different stuff, but let
>you know if it is the network itself or just the wireless network stuff) ...
>
>will narrow the prob down even further (ie wireless/network/driver stuff on
>the wireless machine) trick now is to determine if it is wired/wireless/ or
>network problems, much easier to fix when you narrow down the problem to one
>thing to focus on....
>
>as always, good luck, and hope this debugging stuff doesn't drive you over
>the edge, but if it's getting close, look at alt.suicide.... trust me, puter
>problems are nothing compared to what they face, and most people like the
>"it could be worse" comparison to their own problems.....
>
>

"Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On 24/04/09 01:08, Jim wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:17:23 -0400, "Peter Pan"
>> <pponvistaNOSPAM@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote:
>>
>>> "Jim"<nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
>>> news:aqqvu453skggo5m9gd57qdrs5d58b9m6pg@4ax.com...
>>>> Ok, here's the deal
>>>>
>>>> One PC, one laptop and one wireless router.
>>>> The PC is wired to the router.
>>>> The laptop is connected wirelessly.
>>>> Both are Windows XP SP3
>>>> Both are on the same workgroup
>>>> both have static IP's in the routers range
>>>> both have sharing enabled folders
>>>> Both can ping each other
>>>> the laptop can map shared drives on the PC with no problem
>>>> The PC can't find the shared drives on the laptop, or for that matter
>>>> can't find the laptop itself on the workgroup network.
>
> Both PCs have identical user accounts set up with the same passwords?
>
> This is the vital step that is generally missed out.

for use probably, but the file explorer/my network stuff only cares about
what the network/software sees, not caring about the folders/userid's under
that, course ping just does the hardware address thing, and doesn't much
care about the software... at any rate, been using it (file explorer) for
years and it's handy (already on most systems, and free) so why not check
the next level up when debugging?