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Old 11-24-2007, 10:16 AM
Charles Turner
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Default The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

Guys,

Just visited a Wetherspoons in Glasgow (The Counting House, George Square)
where I have been to several times in the past and have never been able to
connect to The Cloud using either of two Laptops. Neither could my collegue.
Today I was able to connect within 3 seconds to the radio conection and was
re-directed to the BT Openzone page within another 5 seconds, I then logged
into BT without any problem and checked my email visited some web sites etc.
etc.

As soon as I tried to start a VPN conection the whole thing disconnected and
dropped out.

Closed down Laptop had a couple of pints of Westons Organic Cider and an
hour later tried again. This time completey unable to connect to the
wireless network, never even got as far as being allocated an IP address.
Unable to connect again during the rest of the evening.

In my 2 day visit to Scotland I logged onto several Wi-Fi Hotspots;
T-Mobile, Spectrum, Swisscom, BT Openzone all without the sightest problem.
As I've not changed any of my settings on my Laptop, I can only assume that
The Cloud Network really is a heap of useless junk, a complete waste of
space.

Regards,


Charles


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Old 11-24-2007, 10:36 AM
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"Charles Turner" <charles.turner@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:RuCdnYt6V6OMZ9ranZ2dnUVZ8tKsnZ2d@bt.com...
> Guys,
>
> Just visited a Wetherspoons in Glasgow (The Counting House, George Square)
> where I have been to several times in the past and have never been able to
> connect to The Cloud using either of two Laptops. Neither could my
> collegue. Today I was able to connect within 3 seconds to the radio
> conection and was re-directed to the BT Openzone page within another 5
> seconds, I then logged into BT without any problem and checked my email
> visited some web sites etc. etc.
>
> As soon as I tried to start a VPN conection the whole thing disconnected
> and dropped out.
>
> Closed down Laptop had a couple of pints of Westons Organic Cider and an
> hour later tried again. This time completey unable to connect to the
> wireless network, never even got as far as being allocated an IP address.
> Unable to connect again during the rest of the evening.
>
> In my 2 day visit to Scotland I logged onto several Wi-Fi Hotspots;
> T-Mobile, Spectrum, Swisscom, BT Openzone all without the sightest
> problem. As I've not changed any of my settings on my Laptop, I can only
> assume that The Cloud Network really is a heap of useless junk, a complete
> waste of space.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Charles


but the zider wuz good..................which is the main thing.



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Old 11-24-2007, 10:55 AM
Charles Turner
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

It was!!

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Old 11-24-2007, 11:07 AM
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"Charles Turner" <charles.turner@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Guys,
>
> Just visited a Wetherspoons in Glasgow (The Counting House, George Square)
> where I have been to several times in the past and have never been able to
> connect to The Cloud using either of two Laptops. Neither could my
> collegue. Today I was able to connect within 3 seconds to the radio
> conection and was re-directed to the BT Openzone page within another 5
> seconds, I then logged into BT without any problem and checked my email
> visited some web sites etc. etc.
>
> As soon as I tried to start a VPN conection the whole thing disconnected
> and dropped out.
>
> Closed down Laptop had a couple of pints of Westons Organic Cider and an
> hour later tried again. This time completey unable to connect to the
> wireless network, never even got as far as being allocated an IP address.
> Unable to connect again during the rest of the evening.
>
> In my 2 day visit to Scotland I logged onto several Wi-Fi Hotspots;
> T-Mobile, Spectrum, Swisscom, BT Openzone all without the sightest
> problem. As I've not changed any of my settings on my Laptop, I can only
> assume that The Cloud Network really is a heap of useless junk, a complete
> waste of space.
>


Are these places free as at McDonalds?
Regards
David



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Old 11-24-2007, 11:11 AM
David
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"Charles Turner" <charles.turner@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
> As soon as I tried to start a VPN conection the whole thing disconnected
> and dropped out.
>

VPN ?

David



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Old 11-24-2007, 12:46 PM
Charles Turner
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

Virtual Private Network

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Old 11-24-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

In pubs The Cloud Wi-Fi is locted in the Video Games machines, e.g. It-Box.
It isn't free but you should be able to connect to BT Openzone etc. and that
account is charged.

I have seen some other Video Games machines, I think called Max Box which
have a free Wi-Fi connection, and unlike The Cloud there is never a problem
connecting.

I suspect in the next year or so you will always be able to get access to a
free connection, so hopefully junk like The Cloud will just disappear down
the drain.

Regards,


Charles


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Old 11-24-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

David wrote:
> Are these places free as at McDonalds?


Just to expand on that in case we get questions on how to use the free
McDonalds' WiFi.

Its free IF you are a AT&T DSL subscriber.
Its $19 per month if you are a AT&T dial-up subscriber.

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Old 11-24-2007, 08:40 PM
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"DTC" <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
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> David wrote:
>> Are these places free as at McDonalds?

>
> Just to expand on that in case we get questions on how to use the free
> McDonalds' WiFi.
>
> Its free IF you are a AT&T DSL subscriber.
> Its $19 per month if you are a AT&T dial-up subscriber.


As you say dollars I assume you are in USA, I'm in the UK.

McD are equiping all thier UK outlets with FREE Wi-Fi by the end of year.
I parked outside and used it free from my car.
So I not even bought tea/coffee or Big Mac.!

It took me only a couple of minutes to be on my ISPs Home page.

I located the Wireless networks, the strongest was THE CLOUD, then there
were 3 others one Unsecured even.
I connect to the Cloud one and straight away I got The Cloud/McD home page
which invited me to register, I did, then typed in my ISPS Home page and up
it popped.

Thus I asked the previous poster if other locations, such as Weatherspoons
are free. If not I think they might well follow McD.

Regards
David




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Old 11-24-2007, 08:55 PM
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Charles

I think you were unlucky as in my experiance TheCloud is no better or worse
than others. I assume it was a faulty router or it was getting too many
connections or there was interferance from some other device.

WiFi is not without it's problems.



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Old 11-25-2007, 10:47 AM
Charles Turner
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

Hi,

I think there's more to it than that. Myself and 3/4 collegues have been
using Hotspots for about 18 months, using a variety of Laptops, Pocket PC's
and Palm Handhelds.

We have NEVER had any problems whatsoever in connecting to T-Mobile, BT
Openzone and Swisscom (Premier Inn) in particular. Dosen't matter where we
are in the UK, inside, outside in the car park etc.. etc.. never any problem
very fast to log on and a very fast connection.

On the other hand we ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS have a problem with The Cloud,
even if it is the strongest signal strength radio network in the area.
Usually it is immpossible to wirelessly connect, never assigns an IP
address, let alone get to any sort of log-in page.

Regards,


Charles



"That Bloke" <nospam@nospam.plus.net> wrote in message
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> Charles
>
> I think you were unlucky as in my experiance TheCloud is no better or
> worse than others. I assume it was a faulty router or it was getting too
> many connections or there was interferance from some other device.
>
> WiFi is not without it's problems.
>
>



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Old 11-25-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

Makes you wonder why they are still in Business with all those hotspots and
no connections to pay for their upkeep.

YMMV.

> On the other hand we ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS have a problem with The Cloud,
> even if it is the strongest signal strength radio network in the area.
> Usually it is immpossible to wirelessly connect, never assigns an IP
> address, let alone get to any sort of log-in page.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Charles




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Old 11-26-2007, 02:09 AM
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"Charles Turner" <charles.turner@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Guys,
>
> As soon as I tried to start a VPN conection the whole thing disconnected
> and dropped out.
>
> Closed down Laptop had a couple of pints of Westons Organic Cider and an
> hour later tried again. This time completey unable to connect to the
> wireless network, never even got as far as being allocated an IP address.
> Unable to connect again during the rest of the evening.


Sounds like you may have tripped some kind of outbound firewall rule.
Perhaps The Cloud only allow HTTP/HTTPS traffic, and anything else is marked
as suspcious? If you get another chance, try changing your MAC address when
blocked and see if you get access again.



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Old 11-26-2007, 01:07 PM
Charles Turner
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Default Re: The Cloud - useless Wi-Fi Hotspots - Update

As most of their Hotspots are in video games machine who use a broadband
connection for some of their gaming. I suspect it dosen't actually cost The
Cloud that much.


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