Dell Laptop confuses Linksys Wireless G card as a Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card ?

My new Dell Latitude 610 has a built in "Dell Wireless 1470 Dual Band WLAN
Mini-PCI Card".

I have a Linksys Wireless G card from when I used it with my old laptop - so
I thought I would configure is as a backup in case the internal starting
acting up.

When I plugged in the Linksys card, the Dell laptop thought it was a "Dell
TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card". It worked fine. I then changed the
driver so that the Linksys card used the Linksys drivers.......the built in
"Dell Wireless 1470 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card" stopped working, and the
Linksys Wireless-G using the Linksys drivers also stopped working.

Rolling back the driver for the Linksys Wireless-G card, so that the system
thinks it is a "Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card" fixed everything so
both the internal Dell card and the external Linksys using the Dell drivers
all was working again.

Anyone seen this?
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"riggor99999" <riggor99999@yahoo.com> wrote:

>My new Dell Latitude 610 has a built in "Dell Wireless 1470 Dual Band WLAN
>Mini-PCI Card".
>
>I have a Linksys Wireless G card from when I used it with my old laptop - so
>I thought I would configure is as a backup in case the internal starting
>acting up.
>
>When I plugged in the Linksys card, the Dell laptop thought it was a "Dell
>TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card". It worked fine. I then changed the
>driver so that the Linksys card used the Linksys drivers.......the built in
>"Dell Wireless 1470 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card" stopped working, and the
>Linksys Wireless-G using the Linksys drivers also stopped working.
>
>Rolling back the driver for the Linksys Wireless-G card, so that the system
>thinks it is a "Dell TrueMobile 1300 WLAN Mini-PCI Card" fixed everything so
>both the internal Dell card and the external Linksys using the Dell drivers
>all was working again.
>
>Anyone seen this?

I haven't seen that but i believe there are only three wireless chip
manufacturers in the world and everyone's products are packagings of
those three's. Since Dell doesn't really make any technology, chances
are those two are the exact same thing, just marketed and attached
differently. This was common with modems back when only two chip
manufacturers existed. A large range of modem drivers from various
manufacturers would work perfectly well with any one modem.


If two devices use the same driver and you remove one of them you
remove the software files that support both. I've seen this with
printers. Somebody removes an HP4 driver and all their HP4 printers
stop working. I think that's why both broke.



DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)

On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:09:16 GMT, DigitalVinyl
<DigitalVinyl@internet.com> wrote:

>I haven't seen that but i believe there are only three wireless chip
>manufacturers in the world and everyone's products are packagings of
>those three's.

Well, let's see:

ADMTek
Agere (Lucent)
Airgo
Aironet
Atheros
Atmel
Broadcom
InProComm
Intel (Centrino)
Intersil/Frisbee
IPW
Marvel
NWN (3com)
Orinoco
Philips (Centrino)
Prism (Harris/Intersil/etc)
Ralink
Realtek
Symbol
Texas Instruments
Zydas

Probably a few more that I forgot. Anyway, more than three chip
vendors.

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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:09:16 GMT, DigitalVinyl
> <DigitalVinyl@internet.com> wrote:
>
>>I haven't seen that but i believe there are only three wireless chip
>>manufacturers in the world and everyone's products are packagings of
>>those three's.
>
> Well, let's see:
>
> ADMTek
> Agere (Lucent)
> Airgo
> Aironet
> Atheros
> Atmel
> Broadcom
> InProComm
> Intel (Centrino)
> Intersil/Frisbee
> IPW
> Marvel
> NWN (3com)
> Orinoco
> Philips (Centrino)
> Prism (Harris/Intersil/etc)
> Ralink
> Realtek
> Symbol
> Texas Instruments
> Zydas
>
> Probably a few more that I forgot. Anyway, more than three chip
> vendors.

Well, he said "manufacturers". I'm not convinced that those are all unique
manufacturers (in fact, ipw is "Intel"). I've certainly heard that
Orinocos can be based on different chipsets.
--
derek

On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:00:00 -0400, Derek Broughton
<news@pointerstop.ca> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:09:16 GMT, DigitalVinyl
>> <DigitalVinyl@internet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I haven't seen that but i believe there are only three wireless chip
>>>manufacturers in the world and everyone's products are packagings of
>>>those three's.
>>
>> Well, let's see:
>>
>> ADMTek
>> Agere (Lucent)
>> Airgo
>> Aironet
>> Atheros
>> Atmel
>> Broadcom
>> InProComm
>> Intel (Centrino)
>> Intersil/Frisbee
>> IPW
>> Marvel
>> NWN (3com)
>> Orinoco
>> Philips (Centrino)
>> Prism (Harris/Intersil/etc)
>> Ralink
>> Realtek
>> Symbol
>> Texas Instruments
>> Zydas
>>
>> Probably a few more that I forgot. Anyway, more than three chip
>> vendors.

>Well, he said "manufacturers". I'm not convinced that those are all unique
>manufacturers (in fact, ipw is "Intel"). I've certainly heard that
>Orinocos can be based on different chipsets.

True, and guilty as charged. I got lazy and just went to the Linux
wireless driver site, and plagerized the list of manufacturers. I
also added a few and added some notes. It gets rather messy when a
manufacturer choses an RF chip from one chip vendor, and a MAC chip
from another. To get picky, some of the aformentioned use contract
chip foundries, which are the real "manufacturers". Perhaps chipset

Some drivel:
- Intel 2100 series Centrino uses wireless chips from Philips.
- IPW is Intel ProSet Wireless starting with 2200.
- Orinocco is actually a mess of manufacturers (in order) from:
Wavelan, Orinoco, Lucent, Agere, Avaya, and Proxim which use Prism
chipsets from Harris, Intersil, Conexant, Frisbee, and Javelin.
- Symbol uses various chip foundries.
- NWN is "No Wires Needed" in Netherlands. I think (not sure) they're
now part of Alvarion/Breezecom.
- Aironet is owned by Cisco.

Anyway, there are certainly more than 3 chipset manufacturers.


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I have seen this. I had to physically remove my built in Dell 1300
card in order to get an external Linksys card to work.

<Fman99@iwon.com> wrote in message
news:1131425255.840793.294230@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I have seen this. I had to physically remove my built in Dell 1300
> card in order to get an external Linksys card to work.

Thanks.

Question: why did you want the Linksys over the built in Dell? Did you
have problems with the Dell?

I had two external cards that I was using with my old laptop - a Linksys and
a D-Link. When I got the new laptop, I tested the new cards just in case I
needed them as a backup. The D-Link worked and had no conflicts. The
Linksys had the conflict.

My plan is to use the built in card, and use the D-Link as a backup.