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Old 08-25-2006, 05:17 PM
Amanda
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Default download speed when accessing Comcast Internet Service via wireless network from a wireless pclaptop

Compared to accessing the internet service (Comcast at 6Mps) through a
wired desktop that connects to a wirless router, does does the speed
coming into the laptop through home wireless network slower or the
same?


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Old 08-25-2006, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: download speed when accessing Comcast Internet Service via wireless network from a wireless pclaptop

Depending on how fast the network card on the laptop supports, some are
faster then other, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.


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Old 08-25-2006, 05:37 PM
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AZApoker wrote:
> Depending on how fast the network card on the laptop supports, some are
> faster then other, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>


What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
actual rate is half of that.

My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.


>
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: download speed when accessing Comcast Internet Service via wireless network from a wireless pclaptop

Correct Mps to Mbps. I would prefer that the stadard usage of the term
is MBps.


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Old 08-25-2006, 05:43 PM
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Amanda wrote:
> Compared to accessing the internet service (Comcast at 6Mps) through a
> wired desktop that connects to a wirless router, does does the speed
> coming into the laptop through home wireless network slower or the
> same?


I guess, this link answers my question:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.i...1a69ef533ad6c6


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Old 08-25-2006, 06:06 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 09:17:04 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
in <1156522623.910976.257070@75g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>:

>Compared to accessing the internet service (Comcast at 6Mps) through a
>wired desktop that connects to a wirless router, does does the speed
>coming into the laptop through home wireless network slower or the
>same?


Depends on:
1. the speed of the router -- some cheap routers struggle at that speed,
even on wired.
2. the actual speed of the wireless network -- with poor signal, speed
may be low enough to limit Internet speed
3. security -- WEP and WPA can cause speed loss with cheap routers.

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Old 08-25-2006, 06:08 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
in <1156523847.912486.68120@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.c om>:

>AZApoker wrote:
>> Depending on how fast the network card on the laptop supports, some are
>> faster then other, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>
>What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
>actual rate is half of that.


Even less than that, and those are maximum speeds that are only
attainable with very good signal (e.g., short distance, no walls).

>My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
>comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.


Comcast speed is unaffected, but overall speed might be limited by the
router or the wireless link.

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Old 08-25-2006, 06:08 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 09:39:10 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
in <1156523949.998094.287420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:

>Correct Mps to Mbps. I would prefer that the stadard usage of the term
>is MBps.


Mbps = megaBITS per second
MBps = megaBYTES per second
Big difference!

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Old 08-25-2006, 06:11 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 09:43:56 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
in <1156524236.366274.319540@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:

>Amanda wrote:
>> Compared to accessing the internet service (Comcast at 6Mps) through a
>> wired desktop that connects to a wirless router, does does the speed
>> coming into the laptop through home wireless network slower or the
>> same?

>
>I guess, this link answers my question:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.i...1a69ef533ad6c6


Pay attention mostly to Jeff's posts, and to his reference:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Performance_and_Speed>

The wikis below should be able to answer most of your wireless
questions.

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Old 08-25-2006, 06:17 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0700 Amanda <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:

| AZApoker wrote:
|> Depending on how fast the network card on the laptop supports, some are
|> faster then other, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
|>
|
| What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
| actual rate is half of that.

Or worse.

Since both transmit and receive is on the same frequency, it is not
possible to transmit continuously. In addition to not transmitting
when any other node is transmitting, there are additional time gaps
needed to deal with issues like reflections.

Additionally, if the communication is between 2 nodes that use an
access point, then things will be far worse because every frame of
data is transmitted twice on the channel.


| My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
| comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.

If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.

As long as the cable mode is attached at the access point or otherwise
reaches it by wire instead of wireless, then radio path to the laptop
should not see the doubling effect of node-to-node through access point.

But you still can see slowdowns due to others using the same, or even
nearby, channel.

802.11b is almost certainly going to slow down those speed bursts you
could get from cable. A good 802.11g installation in a rural location
probably won't.

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Old 08-25-2006, 07:13 PM
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John Navas wrote:
> On 25 Aug 2006 09:39:10 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
> in <1156523949.998094.287420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:
>
> >Correct Mps to Mbps. I would prefer that the stadard usage of the term
> >is MBps.

>
> Mbps = megaBITS per second
> MBps = megaBYTES per second
> Big difference!


Okay, then. Didn't know that it was for bits. We are still deal with
bits in speed?

>
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Old 08-25-2006, 09:20 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 11:13:43 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
in <1156529623.535269.191020@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>:

>John Navas wrote:
>> On 25 Aug 2006 09:39:10 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
>> in <1156523949.998094.287420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:
>>
>> >Correct Mps to Mbps. I would prefer that the stadard usage of the term
>> >is MBps.

>>
>> Mbps = megaBITS per second
>> MBps = megaBYTES per second
>> Big difference!

>
>Okay, then. Didn't know that it was for bits. We are still deal with
>bits in speed?


Wi-Fi vendors like to quote maximum possible raw bits because the
numbers are bigger and more impressive to unsophisticated buyers. ;)

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Old 08-25-2006, 09:22 PM
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On 25 Aug 2006 17:17:37 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<ecnbbh02voh@news1.newsguy.com>:

>On 25 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0700 Amanda <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:


>| What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
>| actual rate is half of that.
>
>Or worse.
>
>Since both transmit and receive is on the same frequency, it is not
>possible to transmit continuously. In addition to not transmitting
>when any other node is transmitting, there are additional time gaps
>needed to deal with issues like reflections.


The biggest issue is usually collisions.

>| My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
>| comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.
>
>If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
>get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
>cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
>speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
>of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.


With all due respect, that's simply not true.

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Old 08-26-2006, 12:15 AM
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Amanda wrote:
> Compared to accessing the internet service (Comcast at 6Mps) through a
> wired desktop that connects to a wirless router, does does the speed
> coming into the laptop through home wireless network slower or the
> same?
>

That would depend on factors like distance, obstructions,
interference, compatibility of wireless adapters with the router, etc.
As you probably could tell, I have a Comcast account. Almost every
machine in my home is connected wirelessly. Right now, I'm logging d/l
speeds averaging 5892 kbps using a desktop with a wireless PCI card in
my loft area. The router is located in a spare bedroom, on the same
floor, approximately 25 feet away, separated by a wall. Downstairs, my
laptop is logging regularly speeds in excess of 5900 kbps.

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Old 08-26-2006, 05:22 AM
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:08:55 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 25 Aug 2006 09:39:10 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
| in <1156523949.998094.287420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:
|
|>Correct Mps to Mbps. I would prefer that the stadard usage of the term
|>is MBps.
|
| Mbps = megaBITS per second
| MBps = megaBYTES per second
| Big difference!

8 times the "difference" (really, a big ratio)!

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Old 08-26-2006, 05:25 AM
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On 25 Aug 2006 11:13:43 -0700 Amanda <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:
|
| John Navas wrote:
|> On 25 Aug 2006 09:39:10 -0700, "Amanda" <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote
|> in <1156523949.998094.287420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>:
|>
|> >Correct Mps to Mbps. I would prefer that the stadard usage of the term
|> >is MBps.
|>
|> Mbps = megaBITS per second
|> MBps = megaBYTES per second
|> Big difference!
|
| Okay, then. Didn't know that it was for bits. We are still deal with
| bits in speed?

Speed tends to get expressed in BYTES when the nature of the way it is
used involves no particular recognition of bits. You may also see bytes
referred to as characters or octets in certain contexts.

Speed tends to get expressed in BITS when the nature involves bits in
some way such as serialized transmission. Bits also gets used when sales
people get involved because they see bigger numbers as better.

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Old 08-26-2006, 05:26 AM
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:22:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 25 Aug 2006 17:17:37 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
| <ecnbbh02voh@news1.newsguy.com>:
|
|>On 25 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0700 Amanda <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:
|
|>| What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
|>| actual rate is half of that.
|>
|>Or worse.
|>
|>Since both transmit and receive is on the same frequency, it is not
|>possible to transmit continuously. In addition to not transmitting
|>when any other node is transmitting, there are additional time gaps
|>needed to deal with issues like reflections.
|
| The biggest issue is usually collisions.
|
|>| My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
|>| comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.
|>
|>If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
|>get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
|>cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
|>speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
|>of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.
|
| With all due respect, that's simply not true.

This from someone that thinks VPN is necessary to access the internet?
And you didn't even specify what if several pieces of information you
believed was not true. Oh wait, I know, you think it's all not true.

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Old 08-26-2006, 06:04 AM
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On 26 Aug 2006 04:26:59 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<ecoiij219uo@news3.newsguy.com>:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:22:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>| On 25 Aug 2006 17:17:37 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
>| <ecnbbh02voh@news1.newsguy.com>:
>|
>|>On 25 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0700 Amanda <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:
>|
>|>| What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
>|>| actual rate is half of that.
>|>
>|>Or worse.
>|>
>|>Since both transmit and receive is on the same frequency, it is not
>|>possible to transmit continuously. In addition to not transmitting
>|>when any other node is transmitting, there are additional time gaps
>|>needed to deal with issues like reflections.
>|
>| The biggest issue is usually collisions.
>|
>|>| My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
>|>| comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.
>|>
>|>If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
>|>get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
>|>cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
>|>speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
>|>of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.
>|
>| With all due respect, that's simply not true.
>
>This from someone that thinks VPN is necessary to access the internet?
>And you didn't even specify what if several pieces of information you
>believed was not true. Oh wait, I know, you think it's all not true.


To be clear, since you're playing dense, the Comcast nonsense.

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Old 08-26-2006, 06:53 PM
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 05:04:26 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 26 Aug 2006 04:26:59 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
| <ecoiij219uo@news3.newsguy.com>:
|
|>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:22:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
|>| On 25 Aug 2006 17:17:37 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
|>| <ecnbbh02voh@news1.newsguy.com>:
|>|
|>|>On 25 Aug 2006 09:37:27 -0700 Amanda <amanda772008@yahoo.com> wrote:
|>|
|>|>| What I read is that 802.11b is 11Mps and 802.11g is 54 Mps but the
|>|>| actual rate is half of that.
|>|>
|>|>Or worse.
|>|>
|>|>Since both transmit and receive is on the same frequency, it is not
|>|>possible to transmit continuously. In addition to not transmitting
|>|>when any other node is transmitting, there are additional time gaps
|>|>needed to deal with issues like reflections.
|>|
|>| The biggest issue is usually collisions.
|>|
|>|>| My question was independent to the Wi-Fi card, does the speed from
|>|>| comcast slow down? I guess it doesn't.
|>|>
|>|>If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
|>|>get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
|>|>cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
|>|>speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
|>|>of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.
|>|
|>| With all due respect, that's simply not true.
|>
|>This from someone that thinks VPN is necessary to access the internet?
|>And you didn't even specify what if several pieces of information you
|>believed was not true. Oh wait, I know, you think it's all not true.
|
| To be clear, since you're playing dense, the Comcast nonsense.

It's shared access. That would be much like 2 different users using the
same access point on the same channel. So sometimes you can get all the
bandwidth, and sometimes not (not usually happens around evening when
most home users are surfing, downloading, sharing, etc).

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Old 08-27-2006, 03:24 AM
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On 26 Aug 2006 17:53:35 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<ecq1qv0lcg@news2.newsguy.com>:

>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 05:04:26 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>| On 26 Aug 2006 04:26:59 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
>| <ecoiij219uo@news3.newsguy.com>:
>|
>|>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:22:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>|>| On 25 Aug 2006 17:17:37 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
>|>| <ecnbbh02voh@news1.newsguy.com>:


>|>|>If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
>|>|>get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
>|>|>cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
>|>|>speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
>|>|>of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.
>|>|
>|>| With all due respect, that's simply not true.
>|>
>|>This from someone that thinks VPN is necessary to access the internet?
>|>And you didn't even specify what if several pieces of information you
>|>believed was not true. Oh wait, I know, you think it's all not true.
>|
>| To be clear, since you're playing dense, the Comcast nonsense.
>
>It's shared access. That would be much like 2 different users using the
>same access point on the same channel. So sometimes you can get all the
>bandwidth, and sometimes not (not usually happens around evening when
>most home users are surfing, downloading, sharing, etc).


With all due respect, that's simply not true. Comcast generally has
sufficient capacity to deliver the specified consumer speed.

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Old 08-28-2006, 07:27 PM
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:24:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 26 Aug 2006 17:53:35 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
| <ecq1qv0lcg@news2.newsguy.com>:
|
|>On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 05:04:26 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
|>| On 26 Aug 2006 04:26:59 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
|>| <ecoiij219uo@news3.newsguy.com>:
|>|
|>|>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:22:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
|>|>| On 25 Aug 2006 17:17:37 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
|>|>| <ecnbbh02voh@news1.newsguy.com>:
|
|>|>|>If you have sufficient speed to keep up with whatever burst rate you
|>|>|>get from Comcast, then the answer is no. But do keep in mind that
|>|>|>cable is more "bursty" than something like DSL. You can get a lot of
|>|>|>speed at once, then not much at all another time while one or more
|>|>|>of your neighbors are pulling down a big web page, or MP3, or movie.
|>|>|
|>|>| With all due respect, that's simply not true.
|>|>
|>|>This from someone that thinks VPN is necessary to access the internet?
|>|>And you didn't even specify what if several pieces of information you
|>|>believed was not true. Oh wait, I know, you think it's all not true.
|>|
|>| To be clear, since you're playing dense, the Comcast nonsense.
|>
|>It's shared access. That would be much like 2 different users using the
|>same access point on the same channel. So sometimes you can get all the
|>bandwidth, and sometimes not (not usually happens around evening when
|>most home users are surfing, downloading, sharing, etc).
|
| With all due respect, that's simply not true. Comcast generally has
| sufficient capacity to deliver the specified consumer speed.

That's simply not true. Comcast is one of the most oversubscribed ISPs
around. I see the speed drop below IDSN rates very very frequently.
My brother, who has this service, is considering going back to DSL, now.
At least with DSL, the speed was fairly consistent. That's why I've
chosen to go with DSL, despite the fact that I need to do rewiring to
make it work (I could have cable now, but that's not what I want to do).

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Old 08-30-2006, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: download speed when accessing Comcast Internet Service via wireless network from a wireless pclaptop

On 28 Aug 2006 18:27:08 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
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>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:24:30 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>| On 26 Aug 2006 17:53:35 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
>| <ecq1qv0lcg@news2.newsguy.com>:


>|>It's shared access. That would be much like 2 different users using the
>|>same access point on the same channel. So sometimes you can get all the
>|>bandwidth, and sometimes not (not usually happens around evening when
>|>most home users are surfing, downloading, sharing, etc).
>|
>| With all due respect, that's simply not true. Comcast generally has
>| sufficient capacity to deliver the specified consumer speed.
>
>That's simply not true. Comcast is one of the most oversubscribed ISPs
>around. I see the speed drop below IDSN rates very very frequently.
>My brother, who has this service, is considering going back to DSL, now.
>At least with DSL, the speed was fairly consistent. That's why I've
>chosen to go with DSL, despite the fact that I need to do rewiring to
>make it work (I could have cable now, but that's not what I want to do).


We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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