I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil backed
insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs within the
house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2 laptop that has
an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU 624 router. As long as
the laptop is 4' away from the router I get great speeds, usually between 12
MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads. And am connected at 54 MBps. The
problem occurs when I move the laptop to the family room or the living room
which are between 30-40 feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can
I find out what is causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire
connection? i.e. is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all
three? I'm sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it.
And/or a new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way of testing
this some other way. Moving the router to a different location is really
not an option.
Please advise.
thank you.
DotCom
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com :
> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil
> backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs
> within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2
> laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU
> 624 router. As long as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get
> great speeds, usually between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads.
> And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I move the
> laptop to the family room or the living room which are between 30-40
> feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can I find out what is
> causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire connection? i.e.
> is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three? I'm
> sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it. And/or a
> new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way of testing this
> some other way. Moving the router to a different location is really
> not an option.
> Please advise.
> thank you.
> DotCom
>
>
>
Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire around
the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router to various
locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and sometimes it's
just not going to work in some situations.
"Duane Arnold" <notme@notme.com> wrote in message news:Xns970594060E86Enotmenotmecom@207.217.125.201 ...
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com :
> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil
> backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs
> within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2
> laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU
> 624 router. As long as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get
> great speeds, usually between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads.
> And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I move the
> laptop to the family room or the living room which are between 30-40
> feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can I find out what is
> causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire connection? i.e.
> is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three? I'm
> sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it. And/or a
> new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way of testing this
> some other way. Moving the router to a different location is really
> not an option.
> Please advise.
> thank you.
> DotCom
>
>
>
Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire around
the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router to various
locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and sometimes it's
just not going to work in some situations.
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:40dqm1p8cruhej4hcina33ov8kp9pk78uc@4ax.com...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:33:04 GMT, Duane Arnold <notme@notme.com>
wrote:
>"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
>news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.co m:
>
>> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil
>> backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs
>> within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2
>> laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU
>> 624 router. As long as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get
>> great speeds, usually between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads.
>> And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I move the
>> laptop to the family room or the living room which are between 30-40
>> feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can I find out what is
>> causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire connection? i.e.
>> is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three? I'm
>> sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it. And/or a
>> new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way of testing this
>> some other way. Moving the router to a different location is really
>> not an option.
>> Please advise.
>> thank you.
>> DotCom
>>
>>
>>
>
>Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire around
>the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router to various
>locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and sometimes it's
>just not going to work in some situations.
>
>Duane :)
>
Would a network that uses the household power wiring perhaps work
better in this kind of home? What are the advantages and
disadvantages of setting up such a home network?
oops sorry for the html
dotcom
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in message
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"Duane Arnold" <notme@notme.com> wrote in message
news:Xns970594060E86Enotmenotmecom@207.217.125.201 ...
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com :
> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil
> backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs
> within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2
> laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU
> 624 router. As long as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get
> great speeds, usually between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads.
> And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I move the
> laptop to the family room or the living room which are between 30-40
> feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can I find out what is
> causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire connection? i.e.
> is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three? I'm
> sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it. And/or a
> new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way of testing this
> some other way. Moving the router to a different location is really
> not an option.
> Please advise.
> thank you.
> DotCom
>
>
>
Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire around
the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router to various
locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and sometimes it's
just not going to work in some situations.
Oh I just Googled it and it does sound quite interesting. Anybody have any
experience with this type set up?
DotCom
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:40dqm1p8cruhej4hcina33ov8kp9pk78uc@4ax.com...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:33:04 GMT, Duane Arnold <notme@notme.com>
wrote:
>"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
>news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.co m:
>
>> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil
>> backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs
>> within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2
>> laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU
>> 624 router. As long as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get
>> great speeds, usually between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads.
>> And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I move the
>> laptop to the family room or the living room which are between 30-40
>> feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can I find out what is
>> causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire connection? i.e.
>> is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three? I'm
>> sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it. And/or a
>> new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way of testing this
>> some other way. Moving the router to a different location is really
>> not an option.
>> Please advise.
>> thank you.
>> DotCom
>>
>>
>>
>
>Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire around
>the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router to various
>locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and sometimes it's
>just not going to work in some situations.
>
>Duane :)
>
Would a network that uses the household power wiring perhaps work
better in this kind of home? What are the advantages and
disadvantages of setting up such a home network?
Gordon <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in
news:40dqm1p8cruhej4hcina33ov8kp9pk78uc@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:33:04 GMT, Duane Arnold <notme@notme.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
>>news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.c om:
>>
>>> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil
>>> backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs
>>> within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen
>>> 2 laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear
>>> WGU 624 router. As long as the laptop is 4' away from the router I
>>> get great speeds, usually between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps
>>> downloads. And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I
>>> move the laptop to the family room or the living room which are
>>> between 30-40 feet away. The speeds drop precipitously. How can I
>>> find out what is causing the drop in speed and sometimes the entire
>>> connection? i.e. is it the router, adapter or house configuration?
>>> Or all three? I'm sure I could go out and purchase a new router and
>>> test it. And/or a new adapter but I was wondering if there were some
>>> way of testing this some other way. Moving the router to a
>>> different location is really not an option.
>>> Please advise.
>>> thank you.
>>> DotCom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire
>>around the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router
>>to various locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and
>>sometimes it's just not going to work in some situations.
>>
>>Duane :)
>>
> Would a network that uses the household power wiring perhaps work
> better in this kind of home? What are the advantages and
> disadvantages of setting up such a home network?
I don't know but I hear there is that technology that allows networking
of computers with a house's existing electrical or telephone wiring
something like that and it's supposed to be good.
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com :
> I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have
> foil backed insulation but we do have blown in insulation and
> metal studs within the house. I have a hardwired desktop and a
> new Dell XPS gen 2 laptop that has an Intel Pro Wireless 2915
> adapter and a Netgear WGU 624 router. As long as the laptop is
> 4' away from the router I get great speeds, usually between 12
> MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads. And am connected at 54
> MBps. The problem occurs when I move the laptop to the family
> room or the living room which are between 30-40 feet away. The
> speeds drop precipitously. How can I find out what is causing
> the drop in speed and sometimes the entire connection? i.e. is
> it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three?
> I'm sure I could go out and purchase a new router and test it.
> And/or a new adapter but I was wondering if there were some way
> of testing this some other way. Moving the router to a
> different location is really not an option.
> Please advise.
> thank you.
> DotCom
>
This router has several extra features which are stretching the
WiFi standards - e.g. "Fast Lane", "Double 108", "Super A+G".
Suggest you try switching off all of these iffy features so you're
using bog standard WiFi, and try again.
Try relocating the router, if possible. Most experts recommend
locating it high and central to the area of coverage.
Try different transmission channels on the router. Reception can be
quite quirky at the frequencies WiFi operates.
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in message
news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil backed
>insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs within the
>house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2 laptop that has
>an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU 624 router. As long
>as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get great speeds, usually
>between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads. And am connected at 54
>MBps. The problem occurs when I move the laptop to the family room or the
>living room which are between 30-40 feet away. The speeds drop
>precipitously. How can I find out what is causing the drop in speed and
>sometimes the entire connection? i.e. is it the router, adapter or house
>configuration? Or all three? I'm sure I could go out and purchase a new
>router and test it. And/or a new adapter but I was wondering if there were
>some way of testing this some other way. Moving the router to a different
>location is really not an option.
> Please advise.
> thank you.
> DotCom
Sounds like interference.
I imagine that there are other WiFi users in your block, so you might want
to try changing you WiFi router vroadcast channel from, say, 1 to 6, or 6 to
11 (as these are non-overlapping). As Duane says, try moving the router
around the house/flat, and try re-orienting the antennae (teh signal
radiates along the length of (a vertically oriented) aeriel (horizontally)
in a doughnut fashion - weak spots thus being directly above and below.
I can't really move the router much due to the configuration of the house.
I do have it not to far off the floor. I can try moving it higher to a
shelf but that will actually make the distance shorter but I will try that
along with placing the antennae at different angles. I don't have much
knowledge on this sort of stuff so pardon the noob questions but I did just
log into the router and change the channel from 6 to 11. I'll see what that
does for me but I must ask, the Intel Pro wireless adapter has software with
it that I can see there are those same numbers under "Tools", "Adapter", "Ad
Hoc Channel". Do I have to change this Ad Hoc Channel to 11 also, to match
the router I just set at 11, or just leave it at it's present channel
setting of 6?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
DotCom
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"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in message
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>I live in a newer 1 story 2500sf home. The walls do not have foil backed
>insulation but we do have blown in insulation and metal studs within the
>house. I have a hardwired desktop and a new Dell XPS gen 2 laptop that has
>an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 adapter and a Netgear WGU 624 router. As long
>as the laptop is 4' away from the router I get great speeds, usually
>between 12 MBPS to sometimes 14MBps downloads. And am connected at 54
>MBps. The problem occurs when I move the laptop to the family room or the
>living room which are between 30-40 feet away. The speeds drop
>precipitously. How can I find out what is causing the drop in speed and
>sometimes the entire connection? i.e. is it the router, adapter or house
>configuration? Or all three? I'm sure I could go out and purchase a new
>router and test it. And/or a new adapter but I was wondering if there were
>some way of testing this some other way. Moving the router to a different
>location is really not an option.
> Please advise.
> thank you.
> DotCom
Sounds like interference.
I imagine that there are other WiFi users in your block, so you might want
to try changing you WiFi router vroadcast channel from, say, 1 to 6, or 6 to
11 (as these are non-overlapping). As Duane says, try moving the router
around the house/flat, and try re-orienting the antennae (teh signal
radiates along the length of (a vertically oriented) aeriel (horizontally)
in a doughnut fashion - weak spots thus being directly above and below.
"DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
news:mqSdnfZ3SrbEh_PeRVn-vA@giganews.com:
> I can't really move the router much due to the configuration of the
> house. I do have it not to far off the floor. I can try moving it
> higher to a shelf but that will actually make the distance shorter but
> I will try that along with placing the antennae at different angles.
> I don't have much knowledge on this sort of stuff so pardon the noob
> questions but I did just log into the router and change the channel
> from 6 to 11. I'll see what that does for me but I must ask, the
> Intel Pro wireless adapter has software with it that I can see there
> are those same numbers under "Tools", "Adapter", "Ad Hoc Channel". Do
> I have to change this Ad Hoc Channel to 11 also, to match the router I
> just set at 11, or just leave it at it's present channel setting of 6?
> Your help is greatly appreciated.
> DotCom
>
AD HOC mode on the wireless NIC is for allowing two or more computers to
do wireless networking without a router being involved. The example would
be a computer that has a wire NIC in it connected to the modem and the
computer had a wireless NIC in it with ICS enabled on the NIC and that
computer being the gateway computer to the Internet, Other wireless
computers using AD-Hoc can point to that machine's wireless NIC and use
that wireless connection to access the Internet.
Infrastructure mode is for use with the wireless router as the gateway
device to the Internet and all wireless machines are using the router to
access the Internet.
So obviously, doing anything with AD-HOC in your situation is moot.
If you cannot drag CAT 5 cable around the house, then you can look into
networking where it can be done by using a device that allows a network
to be created that uses the house's existing electrical or telephone
wiring using the outlets in each room in the house and you plug up and
GO. There is that technology that can do that and I am not talking about
dial-up networking.
That's if you don't get your wireless situation corrected.
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In <40dqm1p8cruhej4hcina33ov8kp9pk78uc@4ax.com> on Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:37:55
GMT, Gordon <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:33:04 GMT, Duane Arnold <notme@notme.com>
>wrote:
>>Your simple solution if you want networking is just drag some wire around
>>the house as needed and be done it or start moving the router to various
>>locations and test reception. Wireless is not all that and sometimes it's
>>just not going to work in some situations.
>Would a network that uses the household power wiring perhaps work
>better in this kind of home? What are the advantages and
>disadvantages of setting up such a home network?
Power line networking works quite well in most cases.
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McSpreader <invalid@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "DotCom" <dot@pigtails.com> wrote in
> news:AI2dnb0Pm9hjtfDenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com :
>> And am connected at 54 MBps. The problem occurs when I move the laptop
>> to the family room or the living room which are between 30-40 feet away.
>> The speeds drop precipitously.
With 54g connections, I find that watching the "current bandwidth" in the
Windows perfmon.msc is a pretty good signal indicator.
start-run-perfmon.msc
+ Performance Object = Network
Numbers agree with dslreports.
+ Performance Object = TCP "current bandwidth"
>> is it the router, adapter or house configuration? Or all three?
> This router has several extra features which are stretching the
> WiFi standards - e.g. "Fast Lane", "Double 108", "Super A+G".
> Suggest you try switching off all of these iffy features so you're
> using bog standard WiFi, and try again.
My SMC card, with some proprietary 22MbpS mode, played well with other
802.11b routers, but wouldn't play reliably with my Netgear 54g router
until I disabled the 22MbpS mode on the card.
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