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Old 07-01-2010, 05:40 PM
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Is anyone else having problems accessing the "detailed" information
under "Authorisation Search" as I unable to access manuals,photo's, etc.
Under FF3.6.6 I keep getting "You are not authorized to access this
page." and IE8 just gives me a blank page.

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Old 07-01-2010, 07:18 PM
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:40:25 +0100, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Is anyone else having problems accessing the "detailed" information
>under "Authorisation Search" as I unable to access manuals,photo's, etc.
>Under FF3.6.6 I keep getting "You are not authorized to access this
>page." and IE8 just gives me a blank page.


Are these one's you're having problems with?
<http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
<https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>

The trick is to think like a beginning programmer. For example, I
just tried:
Q87-WAG54GV2M
as Q87 and WAG54GV2M in each box. Didn't work. However, if you type
a -WAG54GV2M into the 2nd box (note the - sign), it works. Duh...

Anyway, all the detail shows in both FF and IE8. No error messages of
any kind. I also tried 3 others, that also work. I the past, the FCC
database has gone insane, but that seems to only happen on weekends,
when nobody is watching. It magically gets fixed on Monday morning,
when someone arrives to reboot the server.


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Old 07-01-2010, 07:35 PM
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On 01/07/2010 19:18, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:40:25 +0100, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Is anyone else having problems accessing the "detailed" information
>> under "Authorisation Search" as I unable to access manuals,photo's, etc.
>> Under FF3.6.6 I keep getting "You are not authorized to access this
>> page." and IE8 just gives me a blank page.

>
> Are these one's you're having problems with?
> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>


Both of these.
No matter who I choose as the applicant as soon as I click on "details"
for a product you get the usual headings "ext photo", "int photo" etc.
however clicking on one these produces a page which says " You are not
authorized to access this page".
For e.g.
FCCID PY308100078
User manual
<https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810>
gives me the "error"


>
> The trick is to think like a beginning programmer. For example, I
> just tried:
> Q87-WAG54GV2M
> as Q87 and WAG54GV2M in each box. Didn't work. However, if you type
> a -WAG54GV2M into the 2nd box (note the - sign), it works. Duh...
>
> Anyway, all the detail shows in both FF and IE8. No error messages of
> any kind. I also tried 3 others, that also work. I the past, the FCC
> database has gone insane, but that seems to only happen on weekends,
> when nobody is watching. It magically gets fixed on Monday morning,
> when someone arrives to reboot the server.
>
>



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Old 07-01-2010, 08:52 PM
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On 01/07/2010 19:35, Bob wrote:
> On 01/07/2010 19:18, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 17:40:25 +0100, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Is anyone else having problems accessing the "detailed" information
>>> under "Authorisation Search" as I unable to access manuals,photo's, etc.
>>> Under FF3.6.6 I keep getting "You are not authorized to access this
>>> page." and IE8 just gives me a blank page.

>>
>> Are these one's you're having problems with?
>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>

>
> Both of these.
> No matter who I choose as the applicant as soon as I click on "details"
> for a product you get the usual headings "ext photo", "int photo" etc.
> however clicking on one these produces a page which says " You are not
> authorized to access this page".
> For e.g.
> FCCID PY308100078
> User manual
> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810>
> gives me the "error"
>

aaargh! IE8 works if I add FCC to "compatibility view" however I still
haven't got FF3.6.6 to work.

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:36 AM
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:52:15 +0100, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>>> Are these one's you're having problems with?
>>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>


>> FCCID PY308100078
>> User manual
>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810>
>> gives me the "error"


Ok. I get the same thing when I click the above link:
"You are not authorized to access this page."

>aaargh! IE8 works if I add FCC to "compatibility view" however I still
>haven't got FF3.6.6 to work.


Using Firefox 3.6.6 and punching PY3 08100078 into:
<http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
Yields 1ea 2.4Ghz Netgear wireless devices, and 4ea 5.x GHz devcies.

Displaying the details on the first item yields the usual list of
documents. Punching the "user manual" results in the WNDR3300
wireless router manual. No error messages. The associated link is:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApp...html?id=915810
which is the same as what you posted.

The problem is that you can't go directly to that link without first
dropping a cookie on your machine announcing that you have approved
the wholesale limitations of liability and responsibility demanded by
the FCC before you can view public documents under the Freedom of
Information Act of 1966. Enabled cookies, start at the top at
<http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
fill in the blanks, approved the disclaimer, and then it will work.

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Old 07-02-2010, 08:49 AM
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On 02/07/2010 06:36, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:52:15 +0100, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> Are these one's you're having problems with?
>>>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
>>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>

>
>>> FCCID PY308100078
>>> User manual
>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810>
>>> gives me the "error"

>
> Ok. I get the same thing when I click the above link:
> "You are not authorized to access this page."
>
>> aaargh! IE8 works if I add FCC to "compatibility view" however I still
>> haven't got FF3.6.6 to work.

>
> Using Firefox 3.6.6 and punching PY3 08100078 into:
> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
> Yields 1ea 2.4Ghz Netgear wireless devices, and 4ea 5.x GHz devcies.
>
> Displaying the details on the first item yields the usual list of
> documents. Punching the "user manual" results in the WNDR3300
> wireless router manual. No error messages. The associated link is:
> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApp...html?id=915810
> which is the same as what you posted.
>
> The problem is that you can't go directly to that link without first
> dropping a cookie on your machine announcing that you have approved
> the wholesale limitations of liability and responsibility demanded by
> the FCC before you can view public documents under the Freedom of
> Information Act of 1966. Enabled cookies, start at the top at
> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
> fill in the blanks, approved the disclaimer, and then it will work.
>

I must have a problem with FF as cookies for the FCC are always
accepted. I have just downloaded Opera and I have no problems acquiring
the data with cookies disabled or enabled.

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Old 07-02-2010, 09:31 AM
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On 02/07/2010 08:49, Bob wrote:
> On 02/07/2010 06:36, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 20:52:15 +0100, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Are these one's you're having problems with?
>>>>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
>>>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>

>>
>>>> FCCID PY308100078
>>>> User manual
>>>> <https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=915810>
>>>> gives me the "error"

>>
>> Ok. I get the same thing when I click the above link:
>> "You are not authorized to access this page."
>>
>>> aaargh! IE8 works if I add FCC to "compatibility view" however I still
>>> haven't got FF3.6.6 to work.

>>
>> Using Firefox 3.6.6 and punching PY3 08100078 into:
>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
>> Yields 1ea 2.4Ghz Netgear wireless devices, and 4ea 5.x GHz devcies.
>>
>> Displaying the details on the first item yields the usual list of
>> documents. Punching the "user manual" results in the WNDR3300
>> wireless router manual. No error messages. The associated link is:
>> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApp...html?id=915810
>> which is the same as what you posted.
>>
>> The problem is that you can't go directly to that link without first
>> dropping a cookie on your machine announcing that you have approved
>> the wholesale limitations of liability and responsibility demanded by
>> the FCC before you can view public documents under the Freedom of
>> Information Act of 1966. Enabled cookies, start at the top at
>> <http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/>
>> fill in the blanks, approved the disclaimer, and then it will work.
>>

> I must have a problem with FF as cookies for the FCC are always
> accepted. I have just downloaded Opera and I have no problems acquiring
> the data with cookies disabled or enabled.

For the last couple of years I have had the sendreferer header in
about:config set to "0" and it seems that the FCC website doesn't like
this. Modifying the sendreferer header to "1" allows me to access the
data. Strange that I didn't have problems prior to FF3.6.4-3.6.6.

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Old 07-02-2010, 07:31 PM
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:31:31 +0100, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>For the last couple of years I have had the sendreferer header in
>about:config set to "0" and it seems that the FCC website doesn't like
>this. Modifying the sendreferer header to "1" allows me to access the
>data. Strange that I didn't have problems prior to FF3.6.4-3.6.6.


Nice troubleshooting and sorry about the wrong cookies guess.

The default is "2".
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.http.sendRefererHeader>
Those concerned with privacy can set this to 0, realizing
that this may adversely affect some sites. Those wanting
to ensure compatibility should leave it at the default.
I think the FCC might be using logging software that records the
refering web page. Why not having this information should cause and
authorization error is rather mysterious.


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Old 07-02-2010, 09:38 PM
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On 02/07/2010 19:31, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:31:31 +0100, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> For the last couple of years I have had the sendreferer header in
>> about:config set to "0" and it seems that the FCC website doesn't like
>> this. Modifying the sendreferer header to "1" allows me to access the
>> data. Strange that I didn't have problems prior to FF3.6.4-3.6.6.

>
> Nice troubleshooting and sorry about the wrong cookies guess.
>
> The default is "2".
> <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.http.sendRefererHeader>
> Those concerned with privacy can set this to 0, realizing
> that this may adversely affect some sites. Those wanting
> to ensure compatibility should leave it at the default.
> I think the FCC might be using logging software that records the
> refering web page. Why not having this information should cause and
> authorization error is rather mysterious.
>
>

I have just noticed that the "Link" details are different from what they
used to be as well.
from alt.internet.wireless 2009
<https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=467852&native_or_pdf=pd f>
has become
<https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=467852>
only accessible via the FCC website.

This will make it difficult to provide a readily accessible link via usenet.

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Old 07-03-2010, 04:54 PM
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:38:48 +0100, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I have just noticed that the "Link" details are different from what they
>used to be as well.
>from alt.internet.wireless 2009
><https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=467852&native_or_pdf=pd f>
>has become
><https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=467852>
>only accessible via the FCC website.
>
>This will make it difficult to provide a readily accessible link via usenet.


Good to know. The first link works without going through the approval
process, so just inserting the document ID number into the first URL
format should be suitable for providing a direct link. I just tried
randomly changing the document ID and it seems to work.

Incidentally, viewing any page does drop a cookie, fjallfoss.fcc.gov
JSESSIONID, on my machine. It's set to expire at the end of the
session. However, removing the cookie doesn't seem to do anything.


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