HD USB connected to a wireless network

Hi all,

anyone know a modem router wireless with the USB port to connect directly
and use an external USB box with an HD used as a file server ?
Moreover i connect 2 notebook to the wireless network than could be able to
read and write the file on the USB Hard disk shared.
Moreover it is possibile (if exist this type of wireless device) us an USB
HUB to use more than one USB device ?

Thank a lot
Luca

Luca <xxxx@xxx.xx> wrote:

> anyone know a modem router wireless with the USB port to connect directly
> and use an external USB box with an HD used as a file server ?
> Moreover i connect 2 notebook to the wireless network than could be able to
> read and write the file on the USB Hard disk shared.
> Moreover it is possibile (if exist this type of wireless device) us an USB
> HUB to use more than one USB device ?

The closest thing I know of is Apple's new AirPort Extreme Base Station,
but it doesn't contain a "modem" of any kind. There are several brands
of NAS (Network Attached Storage) devices that can easily be connected
via Ethernet to a wireless router.

"Luca" <xxxx@xxx.xx> hath wroth:

>anyone know a modem router wireless with the USB port to connect directly
>and use an external USB box with an HD used as a file server ?
>Moreover i connect 2 notebook to the wireless network than could be able to
>read and write the file on the USB Hard disk shared.
>Moreover it is possibile (if exist this type of wireless device) us an USB
>HUB to use more than one USB device ?

Forget using USB for storage. There are huge numbers of NAS (network
attached storage) boxes that use ethernet. You can plug that directly
into any wireless router, and it will work. No need for a dedicated
device.

However, before you buy a wireless file storage box, you might play
with the performance numbers.
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_nas/Itemid,190>
(Thruput is measured in MBytes per sec)
802.11g at 54Mbits/sec will give you about 25Mbits/sec TCP thruput
maximum. That's about 3MBytes/sec thruput. With the usual overhead,
you'll be lucky to get 2.5MBytes/sec thruput.

If you dumped the wireless, and just connected with 100baseTX ethernet
between the computahs and the NAS storage, you'll be getting about
90Mbits/sec raw rate, or about 10MBytes/sec with overhead. If you get
a gigabit ethernet interface, it will be MUCH faster at perhaps
100MBytes/sec (if your computers can handle it).

Now, there's nothing wrong with 3MBytes/sec read/write speed, but you
might be disappointed if you're expecting wire speed performance. See
the read/write performance figures on the chart for a clue. Be sure
to read the NAS tutorials, how-to's, etc on the URL above.

Also, you might wanna run your own benchmarks. See IPerf at:
<http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/>
Ask if you need help getting results with IPerf.


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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "Luca" <xxxx@xxx.xx> hath wroth:
>
>> anyone know a modem router wireless with the USB port to connect
>> directly and use an external USB box with an HD used as a file
>> server ?
>> Moreover i connect 2 notebook to the wireless network than could be
>> able to read and write the file on the USB Hard disk shared.
>> Moreover it is possibile (if exist this type of wireless device) us
>> an USB HUB to use more than one USB device ?
>
> Forget using USB for storage. There are huge numbers of NAS (network
> attached storage) boxes that use ethernet. You can plug that directly
> into any wireless router, and it will work. No need for a dedicated
> device.
>

Just an aside, i use these http://www.ximeta.com/products/ndportable1_en.php
basically a ethernet AND usb NAS device, on the wap/router via ethernet for
normal times, and when I do backups and want lots of speed, hook em up
direct via USB.


And on another network, I have these
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...nkstation-pro/
(buffalo tech NAS), that works on the wap/router but also allows for extra
USB hard disks to be plugged in and used seperately (again for backup or
whenever you want high speed)...

If bascially all you want is both wireless and USB, look at some of the
wap/routers, and then devices that can do both ethernet and USB for storage
off it.... Haven't tried the buffalo one with a hub, however it does work
with the elcheapo 500 GB USB drives (under $350), so I suppose if I had a
few sitting around, I could try it with a hub... However, was in best buy
today, and they have 1 Terabyte drives for under $400, (500 GB for $170!)
would try one of those on the buffalo if I wanted more storage, rather than
a hub and two 500 GB drives....

> Forget using USB for storage. There are huge numbers of NAS (network
> attached storage) boxes that use ethernet. You can plug that directly
> into any wireless router, and it will work. No need for a dedicated
> device.

Then its enough buy an external box for a standard HD pata or sata which the
lan rj45 connection and connect it at the wireless router.
In this case the lan detect the HD automatically?

Thanks a lot, i'm a newby :-)
Luca

Luca wrote:
>> Forget using USB for storage. There are huge numbers of NAS (network
>> attached storage) boxes that use ethernet. You can plug that
>> directly into any wireless router, and it will work. No need for a
>> dedicated device.
>
> Then its enough buy an external box for a standard HD pata or sata
> which the lan rj45 connection and connect it at the wireless router.
> In this case the lan detect the HD automatically?
>
> Thanks a lot, i'm a newby :-)
> Luca

Usually yes... I have 3, and two work that way, and one another (actually
that's the USB drive plugged into the ethernet linkstation, however I have
that set as a different drive letter). So for your question about can you
plug an ethernet drive into a wap router, absolutely yes, and they sell many
external hard disks with ethernet connections that just plug into the
router, and you can access them from any device on the network...

Don't know where you are at (in or out of the US), but here's a link for a
network storage device with sizes and specs that may help you (and if in the
US, has buy now links for the products to actually order it), that not only
works on it's own, but even has two USB ports (for more storage and a
printer) (this is one of the ones I have, I'd give it a thumbs up for a
recommendation).. Main disk is detected automatically, and I have the
external USB one (that wasn't set automatically, however now it's set with a
share), hanging off that.
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...e/linkstation/

> Usually yes... I have 3, and two work that way, and one another (actually
> that's the USB drive plugged into the ethernet linkstation, however I have
> that set as a different drive letter). So for your question about can you
> plug an ethernet drive into a wap router, absolutely yes, and they sell
> many external hard disks with ethernet connections that just plug into the
> router, and you can access them from any device on the network...
>
> Don't know where you are at (in or out of the US), but here's a link for a
> network storage device with sizes and specs that may help you (and if in
> the US, has buy now links for the products to actually order it), that not
> only works on it's own, but even has two USB ports (for more storage and a
> printer) (this is one of the ones I have, I'd give it a thumbs up for a
> recommendation).. Main disk is detected automatically, and I have the
> external USB one (that wasn't set automatically, however now it's set with
> a share), hanging off that.
> http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...e/linkstation/


I came from Italy :-)

Just behind you

Thanks a lot for all
Luca