How can I make use of a wireless modem router which no longer worksas a modem ???

Hi Guys,
I have a first version netgear DG834g wireless router whose ADSL
service doesn't work anymore.
Rather than throw it away I am hoping I can still use it somewhere on
my network. I know I can't use it as a repeater (later versions can)
which would have been perfect because I do need a repeater.
Is it possible to use as a repeater if it is cabled to the master
wireless router (Belkin pre-n)?
Can it be made to work as a simple switch/hub ?
Or do you think it only now has a career as a paperweight?

Marry your technical know how with your imagination and let me know
what you think.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:09:23 -0800 (PST),
robertpayneemail@googlemail.com wrote:

>Hi Guys,
>I have a first version netgear DG834g wireless router whose ADSL
>service doesn't work anymore.
>Rather than throw it away I am hoping I can still use it somewhere on
>my network. I know I can't use it as a repeater (later versions can)
>which would have been perfect because I do need a repeater.
>Is it possible to use as a repeater if it is cabled to the master
>wireless router (Belkin pre-n)?
>Can it be made to work as a simple switch/hub ?
>Or do you think it only now has a career as a paperweight?
>
>Marry your technical know how with your imagination and let me know
>what you think.

I would think it would work fine as a 4-port switch. Ignore the WAN
port and turn off the DHCP server, etc.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:09:23 -0800 (PST),
robertpayneemail@googlemail.com wrote:

>Is it possible to use as a repeater if it is cabled to the master
>wireless router (Belkin pre-n)?

No. Because the ADSL port is unavailable, you cannot use the router
section. In order to do that, you would need to have access to the
connection between the ADSL modem output, and the router input. That's
not brought out, so the whole DSL and router chain is useless.

>Can it be made to work as a simple switch/hub ?

Sure. No problem.

You might also consider using it as a wireless access point. See:
<http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To#Use_a_wireless_router_as_a_wireless_acce ss_point>

>Or do you think it only now has a career as a paperweight?

In theory, the mass of the paper weight should be more than the mass
of the pile of paper under it, or the pile will fall over. Since the
router is a lightweight, the amount of paper it can stabilize is
rather limited. It can be used as a paperweight, but something
heavier would do better. Perhaps if you fill the case with concrete.

>Marry your technical know how with your imagination and let me know
>what you think.

I prefer to divorce my imagination from reality using an assortment of
controlled substances. Under this condition, no thinking is possible.

Hint: You might try resetting the DG-834G and reflashing the firmware
with the latest before giving up.

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On 12 Feb, 01:49, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:09:23 -0800 (PST),
>
> robertpayneem...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >Is it possible to use as a repeater if it is cabled to the master
> >wireless router (Belkin pre-n)?
>
> No. *Because the ADSL port is unavailable, you cannot use the router
> section. *In order to do that, you would need to have access to the
> connection between the ADSL modem output, and the router input. That's
> not brought out, so the whole DSL and router chain is useless.
>
> >Can it be made to work as a simple switch/hub ?
>
> Sure. *No problem.
>
> You might also consider using it as a wireless access point. *See:
> <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To#Use_a_wireless_router_as_a...>
>
> >Or do you think it only now has a career as a paperweight?
>
> In theory, the mass of the paper weight should be more than the mass
> of the pile of paper under it, or the pile will fall over. *Since the
> router is a lightweight, the amount of paper it can stabilize is
> rather limited. *It can be used as a paperweight, but something
> heavier would do better. *Perhaps if you fill the case with concrete.
>
> >Marry your technical know how with your imagination and let me know
> >what you think.
>
> I prefer to divorce my imagination from reality using an assortment of
> controlled substances. *Under this condition, no thinking is possible.
>
> Hint: *You might try resetting the DG-834G and reflashing the firmware
> with the latest before giving up.
>
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> # 831-336-2558 * * * * * *je...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> #http://802.11junk.com* * * * * * * je...@cruzio.com
> #http://www.LearnByDestroying.com* * * * * * * AE6KS


Many thanks jeff - enjoyed your reponse.

will try reflashing

On 12 Feb, 01:49, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:09:23 -0800 (PST),
>
> robertpayneem...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >Is it possible to use as a repeater if it is cabled to the master
> >wireless router (Belkin pre-n)?
>
> No. *Because the ADSL port is unavailable, you cannot use the router
> section. *In order to do that, you would need to have access to the
> connection between the ADSL modem output, and the router input. That's
> not brought out, so the whole DSL and router chain is useless.
>
> >Can it be made to work as a simple switch/hub ?
>
> Sure. *No problem.
>
> You might also consider using it as a wireless access point. *See:
> <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To#Use_a_wireless_router_as_a...>
>
> >Or do you think it only now has a career as a paperweight?
>
> In theory, the mass of the paper weight should be more than the mass
> of the pile of paper under it, or the pile will fall over. *Since the
> router is a lightweight, the amount of paper it can stabilize is
> rather limited. *It can be used as a paperweight, but something
> heavier would do better. *Perhaps if you fill the case with concrete.
>
> >Marry your technical know how with your imagination and let me know
> >what you think.
>
> I prefer to divorce my imagination from reality using an assortment of
> controlled substances. *Under this condition, no thinking is possible.
>
> Hint: *You might try resetting the DG-834G and reflashing the firmware
> with the latest before giving up.
>
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> # 831-336-2558 * * * * * *je...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> #http://802.11junk.com* * * * * * * je...@cruzio.com
> #http://www.LearnByDestroying.com* * * * * * * AE6KS

I followed your link to the 'using a wireless router as an wireless
access point' and it seem exactly what I can do to extend my wireless
network.
The only thing is it seems suspiciously easy to do - I will give it a
go tonight.
Many thanks

<robertpayneemail@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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The only thing is it seems suspiciously easy to do - I will give it a
go tonight.
Many thanks

it is easy to do it the right way, especially when you find out how to do it
BEFORE you do it wrong.... simply amazing how many do it wrong/their way/a
friends way/the salepersons way/etc, get frustrated and give up....

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:21:30 -0800 (PST),
robertpayneemail@googlemail.com wrote:

>I followed your link to the 'using a wireless router as an wireless
>access point' and it seem exactly what I can do to extend my wireless
>network.
>The only thing is it seems suspiciously easy to do - I will give it a
>go tonight.

Yeah, I know. Anything that easy can't be any fun. Such instructions
really should be in the equipment manuals, which nobody reads.

Hint: Try the access point using a different unique SSID so that you
can distinguish between your existing wireless SSID and this one.
Also, select a different non-overlapping channel (1, 6, 11) to prevent
mutual interference.

--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558 jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS