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Old 02-13-2007, 04:20 PM
bhavsarbunch@gmail.com
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Default Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

Has anyone had any luck with POE on an Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 access
point? I have tried an power injector and used a 802.3af netgear
switch to provide power to the access point. Both have not resulted
in providing power to the access point. Any help would be great.


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Old 02-13-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

bhavsarbunch@gmail.com wrote:
> Has anyone had any luck with POE on an Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 access
> point? I have tried an power injector and used a 802.3af netgear
> switch to provide power to the access point. Both have not resulted
> in providing power to the access point. Any help would be great.
>

Are you 100% positive it is 802.3af compliant?
http://support.intel.com/support/wir...0/accesspoint/





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Old 02-13-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

On Feb 13, 11:44 am, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> bhavsarbu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Has anyone had any luck withPOEon anIntelPro/Wireless 5000 access
> > point? I have tried an power injector and used a 802.3af netgear
> > switch to provide power to the access point. Both have not resulted
> > in providing power to the access point. Any help would be great.

>
> Are you 100% positive it is 802.3af compliant?http://support.intel.com/support/wir...0/accesspoint/


I saw the part about "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant".
However, their manual says that they are 802.3af compliant and also
when you click on the link "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant"
it continues to state that there are injectors that are compatible.
My thought at this point is that the access point has the 802.3af
standard for which pins supply the line voltage, but are not compliant
in the standard voltage amount (i.e. 48v) or minimum current
required. Any thoughts??


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Old 02-13-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

bhavsarbunch@gmail.com wrote:

> I saw the part about "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant".
> However, their manual says that they are 802.3af compliant and also
> when you click on the link "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant"
> it continues to state that there are injectors that are compatible.


The PD6001 has "legacy detection" and operates at 48vDC
http://www.powerdsine.com/Documentat...ts/PD_6001.pdf


> My thought at this point is that the access point has the 802.3af
> standard for which pins supply the line voltage, but are not compliant
> in the standard voltage amount (i.e. 48v) or minimum current
> required. Any thoughts??
>

The installation set up states :-
"Warning: Do not plug an Intel® PRO/Wireless 2011B Power Injector Module
into any model Intel® PRO/Wireless 5000 LAN Access Point. The access
point will be severely damaged."
The 2011B injector is 24v
ftp://download.intel.com/support/wir...t/PwrGuide.pdf

I assume that the 5000 is 48v.
Some early Cisco POE installations, pre 802.3af, had the polarity
reversed but can't find any reference to that being the case for the 5000.

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Old 02-14-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

On Feb 13, 3:56 pm, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> bhavsarbu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I saw the part about "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant".
> > However, their manual says that they are 802.3af compliant and also
> > when you click on the link "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant"
> > it continues to state that there are injectors that are compatible.

>
> The PD6001 has "legacy detection" and operates at 48vDChttp://www.powerdsine.com/Documentation/DataSheets/PD_6001.pdf
>
> > My thought at this point is that the access point has the 802.3af
> > standard for which pins supply the line voltage, but are not compliant
> > in the standard voltage amount (i.e. 48v) or minimum current
> > required. Any thoughts??

>
> The installation set up states :-
> "Warning: Do not plug anIntel® PRO/Wireless 2011B Power Injector Module
> into any modelIntel® PRO/Wireless 5000 LAN Access Point. The access
> point will be severely damaged."
> The 2011B injector is 24vftp://download.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2011b/accesspoint/P...
>
> I assume that the 5000 is 48v.
> Some early CiscoPOEinstallations, pre 802.3af, had the polarity
> reversed but can't find any reference to that being the case for the 5000.


I think you are correct that the 5000 should be 48v. I am going to
try the Powedsine PD6001. The difference between the injector I tried
and the PD6001 is the wattage rating. So, the assumption would be
that the 5000 requires more current than my current injector. It is
that or Intel just flat out lied about this being 802.3af complient.
Particularly considering that my netgear poe switch did not supply the
needed power.


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Old 02-14-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

bhavsarbunch@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 3:56 pm, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> bhavsarbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I saw the part about "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant".
>>> However, their manual says that they are 802.3af compliant and also
>>> when you click on the link "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant"
>>> it continues to state that there are injectors that are compatible.

>> The PD6001 has "legacy detection" and operates at 48vDChttp://www.powerdsine.com/Documentation/DataSheets/PD_6001.pdf
>>
>>> My thought at this point is that the access point has the 802.3af
>>> standard for which pins supply the line voltage, but are not compliant
>>> in the standard voltage amount (i.e. 48v) or minimum current
>>> required. Any thoughts??

>> The installation set up states :-
>> "Warning: Do not plug anIntel® PRO/Wireless 2011B Power Injector Module
>> into any modelIntel® PRO/Wireless 5000 LAN Access Point. The access
>> point will be severely damaged."
>> The 2011B injector is 24vftp://download.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2011b/accesspoint/P...
>>
>> I assume that the 5000 is 48v.
>> Some early CiscoPOEinstallations, pre 802.3af, had the polarity
>> reversed but can't find any reference to that being the case for the 5000.

>
> I think you are correct that the 5000 should be 48v. I am going to
> try the Powedsine PD6001. The difference between the injector I tried
> and the PD6001 is the wattage rating. So, the assumption would be
> that the 5000 requires more current than my current injector. It is
> that or Intel just flat out lied about this being 802.3af complient.
> Particularly considering that my netgear poe switch did not supply the
> needed power.
>

There was one thing I had forgotten about, "Powered Device Detection" is
part of 803.af and if your 5000 is a pre 802.3af model then it is
possible your injector is not detecting the 5000 and hence not supplying
power.

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Old 02-21-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Intel Pro/Wireless 5000 Access Point POE

On Feb 14, 3:25 am, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> bhavsarbu...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 3:56 pm, Kev <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> bhavsarbu...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I saw the part about "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant".
> >>> However, their manual says that they are 802.3af compliant and also
> >>> when you click on the link "Access Points are not 802.3af Compliant"
> >>> it continues to state that there are injectors that are compatible.
> >> The PD6001 has "legacy detection" and operates at 48vDChttp://www.powerdsine.com/Documentation/DataSheets/PD_6001.pdf

>
> >>> My thought at this point is that the access point has the 802.3af
> >>> standard for which pins supply the line voltage, but are not compliant
> >>> in the standard voltage amount (i.e. 48v) or minimum current
> >>> required. Any thoughts??
> >> The installation set up states :-
> >> "Warning: Do not plug anIntel® PRO/Wireless 2011B Power Injector Module
> >> into any modelIntel® PRO/Wireless 5000 LAN Access Point. The access
> >> point will be severely damaged."
> >> The 2011B injector is 24vftp://download.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro2011b/accesspoint/P...

>
> >> I assume that the 5000 is 48v.
> >> Some early CiscoPOEinstallations, pre 802.3af, had the polarity
> >> reversed but can't find any reference to that being the case for the 5000.

>
> > I think you are correct that the 5000 should be 48v. I am going to
> > try the Powedsine PD6001. The difference between the injector I tried
> > and the PD6001 is the wattage rating. So, the assumption would be
> > that the 5000 requires more current than my current injector. It is
> > that orInteljust flat out lied about this being 802.3af complient.
> > Particularly considering that my netgearpoeswitch did not supply the
> > needed power.

>
> There was one thing I had forgotten about, "Powered Device Detection" is
> part of 803.af and if your 5000 is a pre 802.3af model then it is
> possible your injector is not detecting the 5000 and hence not supplying
> power.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Your last post is correct. The Intel 5000 AP is not 802.3af
compliant. It is "pre 802.3af" compliant. There are only a few older
switches that will work. I am now using a lucent switch made in
2003. It works. The 2006 netgear swtich does not. Looks like you
can't trust the documentation from Intel. Thanks for your help.


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