Linksys BEFW11S4 died

I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
Did they change this on newer units???

Thanks

Yes, it's changed. I don't know the specifics but the newer units use
something different for storing and communicating logs. I was using
Sven's Log Viewer with my old BEFW11S4 and had to switch over to Wall
Watcher when I got a WRT54GS:
http://www.sonic.net/wallwatcher/

Lance
*****

gene martinez thought carefully and wrote on 10/29/2006 09:41 AM:
> I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
> the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
> working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
> router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
> unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
> Did they change this on newer units???
>
> Thanks
>

Thanks for the info. I'll have a look at wallwatcher..

Thanks

Lance <lltbhill@link_earth.net> wrote:

>Yes, it's changed. I don't know the specifics but the newer units use
>something different for storing and communicating logs. I was using
>Sven's Log Viewer with my old BEFW11S4 and had to switch over to Wall
>Watcher when I got a WRT54GS:
> http://www.sonic.net/wallwatcher/
>
>Lance
>*****
>
>gene martinez thought carefully and wrote on 10/29/2006 09:41 AM:
>> I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
>> the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
>> working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
>> router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
>> unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
>> Did they change this on newer units???
>>
>> Thanks
>>

gene martinez wrote:
> I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
> the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
> working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
> router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
> unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
> Did they change this on newer units???
>
> Thanks
>
Hi,
Your power adapter may have died. Maybe the router itself is still good.

Lance <lltbhill@link_earth.net> hath wroth:

>Yes, it's changed. I don't know the specifics but the newer units use
>something different for storing and communicating logs. I was using
>Sven's Log Viewer with my old BEFW11S4 and had to switch over to Wall
>Watcher when I got a WRT54GS:
> http://www.sonic.net/wallwatcher/

Yep. Totally different manufacturers with different feature sets.

I also use Log Viewer:
http://svs.sv.funpic.de/
with the BEFW11S4. Log Viewer requires that the router send SNMP
traps whenever something interesting happens in the router. The
Linksys routers that support SNMP traps send one every time a new web
page is viewed making this useful for snooping on what users are
doing.

I'm fairly sure I can convince DD-WRT version of WRT54G SNMP to send
similar traps. I just haven't bothered to work out the details.

Meanwhile, if you install DD-WRT firmware, you can use Wall Watcher or
RFlow:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/rflow.php

You can also enable syslogd and use any of the various syslog data
collectors.
http://www.kiwisyslog.com/syslog-info.php




>gene martinez thought carefully and wrote on 10/29/2006 09:41 AM:
>> I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
>> the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
>> working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
>> router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
>> unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
>> Did they change this on newer units???
>>
>> Thanks
>>
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> hath wroth:

>I'm fairly sure I can convince DD-WRT version of WRT54G SNMP to send
>similar traps. I just haven't bothered to work out the details.

There's also Linklogger ($50) which directly supports DD-WRT and other
alternative firmware for the WRT54G.
http://www.linklogger.com/dd-wrt_setup.htm
It uses syslogd instead of SNMP, so the various Linksys Log Viewer
programs will not work.

If all you want is traffic monitoring, there's PRTG ($100):
http://www.paessler.com/prtg
The free version of PRTG will monitor 3 SNMP OID's which are
sufficient for traffic in, traffic out, and user count.

I prefer MRTG (free) which does the same thing with SNMP, but requires
some expertise to setup.
http://www.mrtg.org

You can get an idea what's available with DD-WRT SNMP by starting SNMP
and connecting with telnet to the WRT54G:
cat /proc/net/snmp
An edited partial dump looks something like this:
Ip: Forwarding DefaultTTL InReceives InHdrErrors InAddrErrors (etc..)
Ip: 1 64 4267605 0 0 4006946 0 1411 245820 236129 855 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Match up the OID name in the first line, with the corresponding value
in the 2nd line. For example, the number of receive packets
(InReceives) is 4267605.

I'm still trying to figure out how to convince DD-WRT to send NET-SNMP
traps. Looks like some binaries are missing.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>gene martinez wrote:
>> I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
>> the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
>> working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
>> router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
>> unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
>> Did they change this on newer units???
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>Hi,
>Your power adapter may have died. Maybe the router itself is still good.


Thanks I'll have a look. Just did the ebay thing and have a new
BEFW11S4 in the mail right now.. :)

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>Lance <lltbhill@link_earth.net> hath wroth:
>
>>Yes, it's changed. I don't know the specifics but the newer units use
>>something different for storing and communicating logs. I was using
>>Sven's Log Viewer with my old BEFW11S4 and had to switch over to Wall
>>Watcher when I got a WRT54GS:
>> http://www.sonic.net/wallwatcher/
>
>Yep. Totally different manufacturers with different feature sets.
>
>I also use Log Viewer:
> http://svs.sv.funpic.de/
>with the BEFW11S4. Log Viewer requires that the router send SNMP
>traps whenever something interesting happens in the router. The
>Linksys routers that support SNMP traps send one every time a new web
>page is viewed making this useful for snooping on what users are
>doing.
>
>I'm fairly sure I can convince DD-WRT version of WRT54G SNMP to send
>similar traps. I just haven't bothered to work out the details.
>
>Meanwhile, if you install DD-WRT firmware, you can use Wall Watcher or
>RFlow:
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/rflow.php
>
>You can also enable syslogd and use any of the various syslog data
>collectors.
> http://www.kiwisyslog.com/syslog-info.php
>
>
>
Thanks again Jeff for all the great information. I'll have a look..

Lance <lltbhill@link_earth.net> wrote:

>Yes, it's changed. I don't know the specifics but the newer units use
>something different for storing and communicating logs. I was using
>Sven's Log Viewer with my old BEFW11S4 and had to switch over to Wall
>Watcher when I got a WRT54GS:
> http://www.sonic.net/wallwatcher/


Did you have a hard time setting up WallWatcher to work with the
WRT54G? I'm now doing/configuring something right.
>
>Lance
>*****
>
>gene martinez thought carefully and wrote on 10/29/2006 09:41 AM:
>> I've had a Linksys BEFW11S4 for years, yesterday it died. No lights on
>> the unit at all. I picked up a Linksys WRT54G and it seems to be
>> working will. I only have B wireless.. The one thing is on the old
>> router you could send the incoming and outgoing logs to a pc. This
>> unit has a log function but I don'e see a way to send them to a pc.
>> Did they change this on newer units???
>>
>> Thanks
>>

njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez) hath wroth:

>Thanks I'll have a look. Just did the ebay thing and have a new
>BEFW11S4 in the mail right now.. :)

Mistake. I used a BEFW11S4 v4 for a few years (after a customer
demanded I take it back). It would hang erratically and lockup on
streaming content. It would also refuse to reconnect one client
machines, even though the others were working. It failed two of the
online router exploit tests. I eventually had to install a lamp timer
on the AC power line to power cycle it twice per day to keep it up.
The only thing good I can say about the BEFW11S4 v4 is that the radio
section seemed better than average (I didn't measure anything).

I would have purchased something else as a replacement wireless
router.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez) hath wroth:
>
>>Thanks I'll have a look. Just did the ebay thing and have a new
>>BEFW11S4 in the mail right now.. :)
>
>Mistake. I used a BEFW11S4 v4 for a few years (after a customer
>demanded I take it back). It would hang erratically and lockup on
>streaming content. It would also refuse to reconnect one client
>machines, even though the others were working. It failed two of the
>online router exploit tests. I eventually had to install a lamp timer
>on the AC power line to power cycle it twice per day to keep it up.
>The only thing good I can say about the BEFW11S4 v4 is that the radio
>section seemed better than average (I didn't measure anything).
>
>I would have purchased something else as a replacement wireless
>router.
>--
The one thing I like about the BEFW11S4 is the log, incoming and
outgoing being able to be sent to a pc to look at. Do you know what
other routers do this also???

Thanks

njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez) hath wroth:

>The one thing I like about the BEFW11S4 is the log, incoming and
>outgoing being able to be sent to a pc to look at. Do you know what
>other routers do this also???

Yes.
BEFSR11, BEFW11S4, BEFSR41, BEFSX41, BEFSR81, BEFVP41, WAG54G,
Linksys/Vonage RT31P2 etc...
Basically anything that forwards log file entries using SNMP traps.

See:
http://svs.sv.funpic.de/
for my favorite logger.

For your entertainment:
http://www.squakmt.com/LinksysBEFW11S4.V2/


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez) hath wroth:
>
>>The one thing I like about the BEFW11S4 is the log, incoming and
>>outgoing being able to be sent to a pc to look at. Do you know what
>>other routers do this also???
>
>Yes.
> BEFSR11, BEFW11S4, BEFSR41, BEFSX41, BEFSR81, BEFVP41, WAG54G,
> Linksys/Vonage RT31P2 etc...
>Basically anything that forwards log file entries using SNMP traps.
>
Thanks again Jeff...

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez) hath wroth:
>
>>Thanks I'll have a look. Just did the ebay thing and have a new
>>BEFW11S4 in the mail right now.. :)

I think mine has the same problem. I've had to power cycle it twice in
2 or 3 weeks. It doesn't let you connect to it or the internet. Power
off/on and all is well again. Can you up-grade or change to a
different ios on this unit?? Thanks again..
>
>Mistake. I used a BEFW11S4 v4 for a few years (after a customer
>demanded I take it back). It would hang erratically and lockup on
>streaming content. It would also refuse to reconnect one client
>machines, even though the others were working. It failed two of the
>online router exploit tests. I eventually had to install a lamp timer
>on the AC power line to power cycle it twice per day to keep it up.
>The only thing good I can say about the BEFW11S4 v4 is that the radio
>section seemed better than average (I didn't measure anything).
>
>I would have purchased something else as a replacement wireless
>router.
>--

njkat@eclipse.net (gene martinez) hath wroth:

>I think mine has the same problem. I've had to power cycle it twice in
>2 or 3 weeks. It doesn't let you connect to it or the internet. Power
>off/on and all is well again. Can you up-grade or change to a
>different ios on this unit?? Thanks again..

Nope. Usually only the Linux based routers have alternative firmware
available.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558