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Old 01-27-2007, 01:10 AM
Martin Briscoe (2)
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Default Linksys WAG300 not appearing in Windows list of available networks


My Linksys WAG300 does not appear in the list of available networks on
my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
neighbouring ones.

But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.

I can't see anything in the wireless setup on the desktop that is
different from the laptop so can anyone suggest a reason why it does not
see the WAG300 but connects to it?


MB

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Old 01-28-2007, 10:23 PM
Martin Briscoe (2)
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Default Re: Linksys WAG300 not appearing in Windows list of available networks

The message <313030303037313545BAA67406@nospam.com>
from Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.briscoe@nospam.com> contains these words:


> My Linksys WAG300 does not appear in the list of available networks on
> my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
> have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
> neighbouring ones.


> But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.


> I can't see anything in the wireless setup on the desktop that is
> different from the laptop so can anyone suggest a reason why it does not
> see the WAG300 but connects to it?



> MB




Has anyone any ideas about this?



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Old 01-29-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Linksys WAG300 not appearing in Windows list of available networks

Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.briscoe@nospam.com> hath wroth:

>My Linksys WAG300


Is that a WAG300N ? This product number doesn't seem to appear on the
USA web pile. Looks like UK only... ok, found it:
<http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%2FLayout &cid=1145861978895&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVis itorWrapper>

>does not appear in the list of available networks on
>my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
>have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
>neighbouring ones.
>
>But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.


Let's see if I have this correct. You say that it doesn't "appear" in
the list of available networks on the HP but it does connect OK. Well,
that's easy enough. You followed the marginal advice of the security
experts and elected to NOT broadcast your SSID in the WAG300N. That
means most wireless network discovery tools will not show the SSID.
However, if you happen to know the SSID, you can create a "profile"
for this network and it will connect and work.

>I can't see anything in the wireless setup on the desktop that is
>different from the laptop so can anyone suggest a reason why it does not
>see the WAG300 but connects to it?


Neither can I from here because I have no idea what maker and model
laptop or desktop you own, what wireless card is inside, and what
wireless client manager or utility you're using. Incidentally, if the
wireless card happens to be a Netgear, and you're using the Netgear
client manager instead of Windoze Wireless Zero Config, it will show
such hidden SSID's, but not display the actually SSID.

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Old 01-29-2007, 01:14 AM
Martin Briscoe (2)
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Default Re: Linksys WAG300 not appearing in Windows list of available networks

The message <c7gqr25pk0illgqma1g23sp1cu30qe5dlq@4ax.com>
from Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> contains these words:

> Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.briscoe@nospam.com> hath wroth:


> >My Linksys WAG300


> Is that a WAG300N ? This product number doesn't seem to appear on the
> USA web pile. Looks like UK only... ok, found it:
> <http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%2FLayout &cid=1145861978895&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVis itorWrapper>


> >does not appear in the list of available networks on
> >my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
> >have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
> >neighbouring ones.
> >
> >But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.


> Let's see if I have this correct. You say that it doesn't "appear" in
> the list of available networks on the HP but it does connect OK. Well,
> that's easy enough. You followed the marginal advice of the security
> experts and elected to NOT broadcast your SSID in the WAG300N. That
> means most wireless network discovery tools will not show the SSID.
> However, if you happen to know the SSID, you can create a "profile"
> for this network and it will connect and work.


> >I can't see anything in the wireless setup on the desktop that is
> >different from the laptop so can anyone suggest a reason why it does not
> >see the WAG300 but connects to it?


> Neither can I from here because I have no idea what maker and model
> laptop or desktop you own, what wireless card is inside, and what
> wireless client manager or utility you're using. Incidentally, if the
> wireless card happens to be a Netgear, and you're using the Netgear
> client manager instead of Windoze Wireless Zero Config, it will show
> such hidden SSID's, but not display the actually SSID.




It will be the UK part number

It is broadcasting SSID, I checked the settings and it also shows
normally on my two laptops.

The desktop is a HP Pavilion, I did note down the name of the wireless
card but can't find it now. I have just run down the desktop so will
check in the morning. It is usuing the normal Windows wireless
software, I know some of the cards that I have used with my laptops use
their own software but this is the standard windows software.


MB

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Old 01-29-2007, 10:36 AM
Martin Briscoe (2)
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Default Re: Linksys WAG300 not appearing in Windows list of available networks

The message <c7gqr25pk0illgqma1g23sp1cu30qe5dlq@4ax.com>
from Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> contains these words:

> Neither can I from here because I have no idea what maker and model
> laptop or desktop you own, what wireless card is inside, and what


The wireless card in the HP desktop is a Accton WN4201B but, as I wrote
earlier, the standard Windows XP wireless manager is used.


MB

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Old 01-29-2007, 01:30 PM
developers@thuk.co.uk
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On 29 Jan, 00:42, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.bris...@nospam.com> hath wroth:
>
> >My Linksys WAG300Is that a WAG300N ? This product number doesn't seem to appear on the

> USA web pile. Looks like UK only... ok, found it:
> <http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagen...>
>
> >does not appear in the list of available networks on
> >my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
> >have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
> >neighbouring ones.

>
> >But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.Let's see if I have this correct. You say that it doesn't "appear" in

> the list of available networks on the HP but it does connect OK. Well,
> that's easy enough. You followed the marginal advice of the security
> experts and elected to NOT broadcast your SSID in the WAG300N. That
> means most wireless network discovery tools will not show the SSID.
> However, if you happen to know the SSID, you can create a "profile"
> for this network and it will connect and work.


I think he means its not showing in the veiw all network's in windows
i suspct that unPNP is off on
the hp laptop.




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Old 01-29-2007, 05:41 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.briscoe@nospam.com> hath wroth:

>The message <c7gqr25pk0illgqma1g23sp1cu30qe5dlq@4ax.com>
>from Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> contains these words:
>
>> Neither can I from here because I have no idea what maker and model
>> laptop or desktop you own, what wireless card is inside, and what

>
>The wireless card in the HP desktop is a Accton WN4201B but, as I wrote
>earlier, the standard Windows XP wireless manager is used.


Well, the Accton web pile doesn't show this number in either the
products or driver download section:
<http://www.accton.com/homepage/main3/main3_07_Wireless.htm>
Using Goggle, I find that it's an 802.11g PCI internal card, but
that's about the extent of what I'm finding.

As I asked before:
You say that it does not appear in the list of available
networks on the HP but it does connect OK?
Is this correct?

Does the HP desktop with the WN4201B find any *OTHER* wireless
networks in the area? If so, that should be sufficient to prove that
WZC is working.

If SSID broadcast is on in the WAG300, then it should show up on the
"show available networks" list. The real question is whether it's a
problem with your WAG300N or with your WN4201B. My guess would be the
PCI adapter as it's fairly close to unsupported and possibly full of
bugs.

I think there might be a way to intentionally NOT show a specific SSID
or network in Wireless Zero Config, but can't find any references.
I'll check when I get to an XP machine.

It might also be possible to use some invalid characters in the SSID
that cause WZC to act oddly. Acceptable characters are letters,
digits, spaces "_" and ".". No control characters or hex allowed. 32
characters maximum length. Any chance the SSID is weird?

Other than that, I either don't understand the problem, or am out of
ideas.


Drivel: I just found a Microsoft patent for selecting wireless access
points by SSID.
<http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060203835.html>
Good to know that MS invented wireless networking.


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Old 01-30-2007, 12:20 AM
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On 29 Jan 2007 05:30:29 -0800, "developers@thuk.co.uk"
<developers@thuk.co.uk> wrote in
<1170077429.293325.169810@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:

>On 29 Jan, 00:42, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>> Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.bris...@nospam.com> hath wroth:
>>
>> >My Linksys WAG300Is that a WAG300N ? This product number doesn't seem to appear on the

>> USA web pile. Looks like UK only... ok, found it:
>> <http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagen...>
>>
>> >does not appear in the list of available networks on
>> >my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
>> >have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
>> >neighbouring ones.

>>
>> >But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.Let's see if I have this correct. You say that it doesn't "appear" in

>> the list of available networks on the HP but it does connect OK. Well,
>> that's easy enough. You followed the marginal advice of the security
>> experts and elected to NOT broadcast your SSID in the WAG300N. That
>> means most wireless network discovery tools will not show the SSID.
>> However, if you happen to know the SSID, you can create a "profile"
>> for this network and it will connect and work.

>
>I think he means its not showing in the veiw all network's in windows
>i suspct that unPNP is off on
>the hp laptop.


UPnP has nothing to do with the SSID, so I doubt that's a factor.

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Old 01-30-2007, 02:42 PM
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On 30 Jan, 00:20, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On 29 Jan 2007 05:30:29 -0800, "develop...@thuk.co.uk"
> <develop...@thuk.co.uk> wrote in
> <1170077429.293325.169...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 29 Jan, 00:42, Jeff Liebermann <j...@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> >> Martin Briscoe (2) <martin.bris...@nospam.com> hath wroth:

>
> >> >My Linksys WAG300Is that a WAG300N ? This product number doesn't seem to appear on the
> >> USA web pile. Looks like UK only... ok, found it:
> >> <http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagen...>

>
> >> >does not appear in the list of available networks on
> >> >my HP desktop PC (XP Pro) but shows OK on a couple of laptops that I
> >> >have. The desktop shows other wireless routers OK including some
> >> >neighbouring ones.

>
> >> >But the HP desktop connects OK to the WAG300.Let's see if I have this correct. You say that it doesn't "appear" in
> >> the list of available networks on the HP but it does connect OK. Well,
> >> that's easy enough. You followed the marginal advice of the security
> >> experts and elected to NOT broadcast your SSID in the WAG300N. That
> >> means most wireless network discovery tools will not show the SSID.
> >> However, if you happen to know the SSID, you can create a "profile"
> >> for this network and it will connect and work.

>
> >I think he means its not showing in the veiw all network's in windows
> >i suspct that unPNP is off on
> >the hp laptop.UPnP has nothing to do with the SSID, so I doubt that's a factor.

>


I dont think he said exactly what he ment by "see"


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