My WISP provides a (shared) static IP address only for me. Period.
Even if I were to disconnect for weeks, I'd come up with (they just told
me) the same IP address (they NAT me with my neighbors, they say).
The problem is that when I posted today an ad to sell a motorcycle to
Craigslist, I was immediately ghosted! Looking up the problem, I find
that Craigslists often ghosts IP addresses, en masse, when violations are
found for that particular IP address.
So, I presume one of the fifty to one hundred people on my side of the
WISP NAT are the problem - but that doesn't help me one bit to get a
single ad listed on Craigslist.
Note: Ghosting is when they don't like your IP address, they do
everything that makes it 'appear' your ad went through - but nothing
shows up on the Internet. There is a lot of information about ghosting -
but it all boils down to changing your IP address.
Apparently you can't get around this by using public ISPs (such as
Starbucks & local schools & libraries) because Craigslist has these all
in the filter (which is apparently run by a separate company).
I found out you can't get around Craigslist IP ghosting by using TORs
either, because most (if not all) end up being outside your local area
which also causes the Craigslist filters to ghost you outright
(especially if they're outside the country).
So, I guess I can only post from a friend's account - but - that's not an
elegant solution at all (neither is not posting). Of course, I could
change ISPs, but, that's a lot of effort for a single Craigslist ad!
In a long shot, I ask of you, the ISP wireless experts, if there is any
easy way that I may have overlooked which will temporarily change my IP
address to one that is LOCAL and NON-PUBLIC?
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
On 12/07/2011 7:11 AM, arkland wrote:
> My WISP provides a (shared) static IP address only for me. Period.
> Even if I were to disconnect for weeks, I'd come up with (they just told
> me) the same IP address (they NAT me with my neighbors, they say).
>
> The problem is that when I posted today an ad to sell a motorcycle to
> Craigslist, I was immediately ghosted! Looking up the problem, I find
> that Craigslists often ghosts IP addresses, en masse, when violations are
> found for that particular IP address.
>
> So, I presume one of the fifty to one hundred people on my side of the
> WISP NAT are the problem - but that doesn't help me one bit to get a
> single ad listed on Craigslist.
>
> Note: Ghosting is when they don't like your IP address, they do
> everything that makes it 'appear' your ad went through - but nothing
> shows up on the Internet. There is a lot of information about ghosting -
> but it all boils down to changing your IP address.
>
> Apparently you can't get around this by using public ISPs (such as
> Starbucks& local schools& libraries) because Craigslist has these all
> in the filter (which is apparently run by a separate company).
>
> I found out you can't get around Craigslist IP ghosting by using TORs
> either, because most (if not all) end up being outside your local area
> which also causes the Craigslist filters to ghost you outright
> (especially if they're outside the country).
>
> So, I guess I can only post from a friend's account - but - that's not an
> elegant solution at all (neither is not posting). Of course, I could
> change ISPs, but, that's a lot of effort for a single Craigslist ad!
>
> In a long shot, I ask of you, the ISP wireless experts, if there is any
> easy way that I may have overlooked which will temporarily change my IP
> address to one that is LOCAL and NON-PUBLIC?
Have you tried using a proxy outside your immediate area ?
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
don't forget that the IP address presented to the Internet
is the IP address of the WISP connection to the world,
unless you are getting a static IP address within their range
and not just an internal static IP address behind their own NAT router.
what's the first two parts of YOUR own static IP ?
xxx.xxx ?
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
In message <ivfoul$q2i$1@speranza.aioe.org> someone claiming to be
arkland <arkland@gmail.com> typed:
>My WISP provides a (shared) static IP address only for me. Period.
>Even if I were to disconnect for weeks, I'd come up with (they just told
>me) the same IP address (they NAT me with my neighbors, they say).
>
>The problem is that when I posted today an ad to sell a motorcycle to
>Craigslist, I was immediately ghosted! Looking up the problem, I find
>that Craigslists often ghosts IP addresses, en masse, when violations are
>found for that particular IP address.
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do. You can attempt to find a
local proxy, but you'll probably have better luck finding a more
competently run ISP.
>In a long shot, I ask of you, the ISP wireless experts, if there is any
>easy way that I may have overlooked which will temporarily change my IP
>address to one that is LOCAL and NON-PUBLIC?
Unless your ISP provides public IPs, proxies are your only option. Maybe
you could find a friend to run a proxy, or a small local hosting
provider and install a proxy there?
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
In message <ivgsl4$3vv$1@speranza.aioe.org> someone claiming to be
arkland <arkland@gmail.com> typed:
>On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:19:58 +1000, atec77 wrote:
>
>> Have you tried using a proxy outside your immediate area ?
>
>It actually has to be inside the local area for Craigslist not to start
>the ghosting algorithm.
It's worth noting that this isn't actually correct. You can post out of
your area without triggering a problem if your IP isn't already known to
be problematic.
Now that I no longer live in a large city (100,000 instead of million+)
I regularly post in a couple different cities shortly before traveling
when I have expensive portable items to sell. I've posted in Calgary,
Phoenix and Dallas all from my small city in Canada when I intend on
traveling to the aforementioned city and have something to sell.
I can assume my posts weren't ghosted since I do receive responses and
successfully meet and sell items.
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
On Jul 11, 2:11*pm, arkland <arkl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My WISP provides a (shared) static IP address only for me. Period.
> Even if I were to disconnect for weeks, I'd come up with (they just told
> me) the same IP address (they NAT me with my neighbors, they say).
>
> The problem is that when I posted today an ad to sell a motorcycle to
> Craigslist, I was immediately ghosted! Looking up the problem, I find
> that Craigslists often ghosts IP addresses, en masse, when violations are
> found for that particular IP address.
>
> So, I presume one of the fifty to one hundred people on my side of the
> WISP NAT are the problem - but that doesn't help me one bit to get a
> single ad listed on Craigslist.
>
> Note: Ghosting is when they don't like your IP address, they do
> everything that makes it 'appear' your ad went through - but nothing
> shows up on the Internet. There is a lot of information about ghosting -
> but it all boils down to changing your IP address.
>
> Apparently you can't get around this by using public ISPs (such as
> Starbucks & local schools & libraries) because Craigslist has these all
> in the filter (which is apparently run by a separate company).
>
> I found out you can't get around Craigslist IP ghosting by using TORs
> either, because most (if not all) end up being outside your local area
> which also causes the Craigslist filters to ghost you outright
> (especially if they're outside the country).
>
> So, I guess I can only post from a friend's account - but - that's not an
> elegant solution at all (neither is not posting). Of course, I could
> change ISPs, but, that's a lot of effort for a single Craigslist ad!
>
> In a long shot, I ask of you, the ISP wireless experts, if there is any
> easy way that I may have overlooked which will temporarily change my IP
> address to one that is LOCAL and NON-PUBLIC?
It's been my experience that when my email IP gets on the banned list,
the hosting company calls the right people and gets me off the fecal
matter list.
I would call your IP, tell them the problem, and have them call
Craigslist. Your IP in theory doesn't like it's customers to be
dissed. Craigslist in theory wants legit customers. Seems win win to
me.
I regularly see out of towners post on Craigs. Really annoying.
Actually there is no rocket science involved in using a proxy for internet. I have used it with mozilla firefox but as far as i know, there is no need of using a different IP? is there any? but if you have some genuine need (which i don't think exists) then you can use any of the free proxy sites online.
__________________ Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new.
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
On 7/11/2011 2:11 PM, arkland wrote:
> My WISP provides a (shared) static IP address only for me. Period.
> Even if I were to disconnect for weeks, I'd come up with (they just told
> me) the same IP address (they NAT me with my neighbors, they say).
>
> The problem is that when I posted today an ad to sell a motorcycle to
> Craigslist, I was immediately ghosted! Looking up the problem, I find
> that Craigslists often ghosts IP addresses, en masse, when violations are
> found for that particular IP address.
>
> So, I presume one of the fifty to one hundred people on my side of the
> WISP NAT are the problem - but that doesn't help me one bit to get a
> single ad listed on Craigslist.
>
> Note: Ghosting is when they don't like your IP address, they do
> everything that makes it 'appear' your ad went through - but nothing
> shows up on the Internet. There is a lot of information about ghosting -
> but it all boils down to changing your IP address.
>
> Apparently you can't get around this by using public ISPs (such as
> Starbucks& local schools& libraries) because Craigslist has these all
> in the filter (which is apparently run by a separate company).
>
> I found out you can't get around Craigslist IP ghosting by using TORs
> either, because most (if not all) end up being outside your local area
> which also causes the Craigslist filters to ghost you outright
> (especially if they're outside the country).
>
> So, I guess I can only post from a friend's account - but - that's not an
> elegant solution at all (neither is not posting). Of course, I could
> change ISPs, but, that's a lot of effort for a single Craigslist ad!
>
> In a long shot, I ask of you, the ISP wireless experts, if there is any
> easy way that I may have overlooked which will temporarily change my IP
> address to one that is LOCAL and NON-PUBLIC?
Another option is to go get a Cricket 3G. Pay the minimum and make your
posts. (Of course you would need to cost recover from the item sold.)
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
In message <ivm4vv$afo$2@speranza.aioe.org> someone claiming to be
arkland <arkland@gmail.com> typed:
>On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:09:32 -0700, DevilsPGD wrote:
>
>> you might have better luck rolling your own using
>> a small VPS (typically starting around
>> $10-$20/mo)
>
>I had to look up VPS:
>- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server
>
>I've read that article. Am I correct in assuming the WISP must agree to
>me setting up a VPS on their network?
Actually that wouldn't help, anything you set up on your network would
share the same IP. Rather, you'd have to buy VPS service somewhere
else, and get an IP assigned by that provider.
Basically you're renting a small virtual computer somewhere else, with
all the associated hassles and inconveniences. This is an approach that
might work for the technically inclined, but it's not a lightweight
suggestion and would be a ton of work and expense just to post to
Craigslist. However, if you wanted your own IP and privacy from your
ISP in general without relying on a proxy operator (who may well have
the same options) then it's a potentially better solution.
Re: Looking for a clever idea to change my IP address
In message
<e3a1645b-2a1e-4687-9c44-148625807723@m5g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
someone claiming to be "miso@sushi.com" <miso@sushi.com> typed:
>It's been my experience that when my email IP gets on the banned list,
>the hosting company calls the right people and gets me off the fecal
>matter list.
>
>I would call your IP, tell them the problem, and have them call
>Craigslist. Your IP in theory doesn't like it's customers to be
>dissed. Craigslist in theory wants legit customers. Seems win win to
>me.
Craigslist doesn't want abusers. One single abuser can chase dozens of
legitimate users away, so they'll sacrifice one (or more) legitimate
users away if it keeps an abuser away.
Contacting Craigslist won't help either, it's likely they won't directly
answer, but if you post on their forums, their answer will probably be
to deal with the abuse coming from the IP and it will be unblocked
automatically once the abuse ceases.
I see that, for $45/month, it seems to be a broadband supplier via the
Sprint cellular network. It seems to be different from AT&T, Verizon, & T-
Mobile 3G coverage by virtue of a month-to-month plan which is simpler to
set up (sans contract).
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