I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
years old.
Greg wrote:
> I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
> When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
> and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
> down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
> laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
> of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
> connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
> years old.
The short and simple answer is NO, you have to remember that your cable
modem is limited as well. If you update all your wireless network, you
will still be limited by what your cable company can pull out of your
cable modem. which is probable what your seeing as 3 mpbs, and 512 kps
up. Of course this is dependent on the time of day, and what site your
downloading from. If eveyone on your neighborhood has cable then it
could be even slower.
If your streaming video over your personal network, say from one
computer to the other, without using your cable modem then it might be
worth it. Or if you want WPA2 or more security then it might be worth
the upgrade, but you have to decide on what conditions it will be worth
it to you.
>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>years old.
I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
Something else is wrong.
3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:06:40 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
<gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.com>:
>"Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs down
>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any advantage
>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>years old.
>
>I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>Something else is wrong.
>
>3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
Otherwise, if you have two computers, test your computer-to-computer
speed over wireless as described in the How To wiki below, and post the
results here so we have more to go on.
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
"Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4RRBg.2453$W01.2237@dukeread08...
>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
> When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
> down
> and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
> down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
> laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
> advantage
> of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
> connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
> years old.
As Jeff said, 802.11g is more than sufficient to carry your internet
connection assuming there is no/little interference going on.
Assuming you are using Windows, what you may want to give a shot at is
tweaking the TCP settings for the wireless card.
You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that I
stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? The fact that
it delivers at 54Mbps has nothing to do with it. You or I will never
download off the internet at 54Mbps. The fastest you can get is about 30Mbps
with a T3. If I were copying or moving a file on a lan then yes, I could max
out at 54Mbps. And what an eye glass prescription has to do with it I have
no idea.
"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
news:gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.com...
> "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>
>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>down
>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>advantage
>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>years old.
>
> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
> Something else is wrong.
>
> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>
> --
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> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
<2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that I
>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]
You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
"524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
>news:gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.com.. .
>> "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>>
>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is cable.
>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>down
>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157 kbps
>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>advantage
>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>>years old.
>>
>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>> Something else is wrong.
>>
>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
perscription is at fauilt.
"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:eujid294a7h48u3ebn93lcpt63h5201edi@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>
>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that
>>I
>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]
>
> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>
>>"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
>>news:gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.com. ..
>>> "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>>>
>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>cable.
>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>down
>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>kbps
>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>advantage
>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>>>years old.
>>>
>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>
>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:06:16 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
<GicCg.2902$W01.1137@dukeread08>:
>damn it!!!
>
>Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
>perscription is at fauilt.
Your keyboard seems to need attention as well. :)
>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:eujid294a7h48u3ebn93lcpt63h5201edi@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
>> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>>
>>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that
>>>I
>>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]
>>
>> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
>> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>>
>>>"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
>>>news:gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.com ...
>>>> "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>>cable.
>>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>>down
>>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>>kbps
>>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>>advantage
>>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least two
>>>>>years old.
>>>>
>>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
>
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
Nah. Laptop. I can't type to save my life on this thing.
Seriously though. Is it just simply interference that is causing me to loose
about 1 Mgbps? I just did a bandwidth speed test on speakeasy and got 3.6
Mbps down. If I connect to the router directly instead of connecting via
wireless, I will get upwards of 4.3 Mbps. Not that it really matters. It is
fast enough for me. I am just wondering why more than anything.
"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:r5lid21mee09snvqc14qhu3kar66c2opqg@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:06:16 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
> <GicCg.2902$W01.1137@dukeread08>:
>
>>damn it!!!
>>
>>Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
>>perscription is at fauilt.
>
> Your keyboard seems to need attention as well. :)
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:eujid294a7h48u3ebn93lcpt63h5201edi@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
>>> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>>>
>>>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact
>>>>that
>>>>I
>>>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]
>>>
>>> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
>>> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>>>
>>>>"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
>>>>news:gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.co m...
>>>>> "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>>>cable.
>>>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>>>down
>>>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>>>kbps
>>>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>>>advantage
>>>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least
>>>>>>two
>>>>>>years old.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
Just for testing purposes, try temporarily disabling all security on the
DI-524, and rerunning your speed tests. And to repeat my earlier
suggestion: Otherwise, if you have two computers, test your
computer-to-computer speed over wireless as described in the How To wiki
below, and post the results here so we have more to go on.
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 23:09:18 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
<PddCg.2906$W01.469@dukeread08>:
>Nah. Laptop. I can't type to save my life on this thing.
>
>Seriously though. Is it just simply interference that is causing me to loose
>about 1 Mgbps? I just did a bandwidth speed test on speakeasy and got 3.6
>Mbps down. If I connect to the router directly instead of connecting via
>wireless, I will get upwards of 4.3 Mbps. Not that it really matters. It is
>fast enough for me. I am just wondering why more than anything.
>
>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:r5lid21mee09snvqc14qhu3kar66c2opqg@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:06:16 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
>> <GicCg.2902$W01.1137@dukeread08>:
>>
>>>damn it!!!
>>>
>>>Sorry Jeff!! I'm a dumbass. But I still dont know why my eye glass
>>>perscription is at fauilt.
>>
>> Your keyboard seems to need attention as well. :)
>>
>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>news:eujid294a7h48u3ebn93lcpt63h5201edi@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote in
>>>> <2acCg.2901$W01.922@dukeread08>:
>>>>
>>>>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact
>>>>>that
>>>>>I
>>>>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? [SNIP]
>>>>
>>>> You actually called it "DI525" -- see your own quote below -- and then
>>>> "524" at the end of the paragraph. You own Jeff an apology.
>>>>
>>>>>"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
>>>>>news:gbdhd2l7kfb53vqv60gtoqcapkkc2609jc@4ax.c om...
>>>>>> "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> hath wroth:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a Dlink DI525 4 port wireless router. My internet service is
>>>>>>>cable.
>>>>>>>When connected wirelessly on my laptop (dell insprion) I get 3612 kpbs
>>>>>>>down
>>>>>>>and around 600 k up. When connected to the modem directly, I get 5157
>>>>>>>kbps
>>>>>>>down and about the same upload. I have a Intel wireless pc card in the
>>>>>>>laptop. A,B and G signal. The dlink is a wireless G. Is there any
>>>>>>>advantage
>>>>>>>of upgrading my wireless router to get the faster downloads that I get
>>>>>>>connected directly to the cable modem? The 524 is probably at least
>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>years old.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll guess you mean a DI-524 router. The DI-524 is 802.11g, as is
>>>>>> your Intel whatever "PC card". They should connect up to 54Mbits/sec
>>>>>> which will deliver up to 25Mbits/sec TCP file transfer speed.
>>>>>> Something else is wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.5Mbits/sec is about what one would expect from an 802.11b
>>>>>> 11Mbits/sec connection. That's too slow for your 6Mbit/sec cable
>>>>>> service. I'm not sure why it's this slow, but my guess is that your
>>>>>> eyeglass perscription is at fault. You might try inspecting the
>>>>>> router to see if it's a DI-514 which is 802.11b only. If this is the
>>>>>> case, I would certainly upgrade to an 802.11g wireless router.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>>>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>>>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>>>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
>> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
>> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
>> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
>
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote:
>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that I
>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? The fact that
>it delivers at 54Mbps has nothing to do with it. You or I will never
>download off the internet at 54Mbps. The fastest you can get is about 30Mbps
>with a T3. If I were copying or moving a file on a lan then yes, I could max
>out at 54Mbps. And what an eye glass prescription has to do with it I have
>no idea.
So much for my attempt at humor. If you have read any of my responses
to question in alt.internet.wireless, you'll probably have run into my
chronic complaint that people just can't seem to adequately describe
that hardware and software they are using. It's essential to know the
wireless router model number. Better yet, the hardware revision
level, firmware version, and what computah and wireless device is
being used to connect to the router.
As for your eyeglass prescription, you initially called it a DI525
which suggests either fuzzy vision or fuzzy thinking. In a fit of
temporary diplomacy, I guessed the former instead of the latter. Also,
as I'm getting older, it's becoming quite difficult to read serial
number labels, fine print, and the handwriting on the wall.
Assuming you do have a DI-524, you should be able to get better
performance than 3.6Mbits/sec. It should be equal (but no more) than
your 5.1Mbits/sec speed when directly connected. Therefore, something
is wrong. The laptop with the unspecified model Intel a/b/g card is
most certainly 802.11g and should connect at 54Mbits/sec. However, I
don't many clues as to what's happening (i.e. benchmarks and numbers)
so I can only speculate on the cause. Possible problems are:
1. Ancient driver on the Intel a/b/g. I strongly recommend using
Intel Proset 10.5.0.0 instead of Windoze Wireless Zero Config.
| http://www.intel.com/network/connect...t_software.htm
Yeah, I know it's a 130Mbyte download. Check the diagnostics and
logging output for problems.
2. Slow connection. What wireless connection speed are you getting?
A file transfer speed of 3.6Mbits/sec is about what I would expect
from an 11Mbit/sec connection. No clue why it should be going that
slow, but it's possible.
3. Are you connected to your own wireless access point or the
neighbors 802.11b access point? That might explain the sluggish
performance.
4. Any TCP/IP errors? Run:
Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
netstat -sn | more
Look for a large percentage of errors?
5. Any interference? Run:
Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
ping -t 192.168.0.1
The typical latency should be a few milliseconds and should be
constant. If it varies all over the place and perhaps even times out,
you've got interference. Try a different channel.
6. Do you have the latest firmware on your DI-524? I had a customer
buy a DI-524 and PCMCIA card bundle at Costo. It had lots of weird
problems including general lack of speed. It also wouldn't maintain a
wireless connection. I had the customer exchange it for another,
which worked just fine (after I updated the firmware). If it's a new
router, you might have a lemon.
There's probably some more things that could go wrong, but it's late
and I'm lazy. Good luck.
"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0500, "Greg" <greghays@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>You guess I mean DI-524 router? What gave it away? Possibly the fact that
>>I
>>stated it was a DI524 router at the beginning of my paragraph? The fact
>>that
>>it delivers at 54Mbps has nothing to do with it. You or I will never
>>download off the internet at 54Mbps. The fastest you can get is about
>>30Mbps
>>with a T3. If I were copying or moving a file on a lan then yes, I could
>>max
>>out at 54Mbps. And what an eye glass prescription has to do with it I have
>>no idea.
>
> So much for my attempt at humor. If you have read any of my responses
> to question in alt.internet.wireless, you'll probably have run into my
> chronic complaint that people just can't seem to adequately describe
> that hardware and software they are using. It's essential to know the
> wireless router model number. Better yet, the hardware revision
> level, firmware version, and what computah and wireless device is
> being used to connect to the router.
>
> As for your eyeglass prescription, you initially called it a DI525
> which suggests either fuzzy vision or fuzzy thinking. In a fit of
> temporary diplomacy, I guessed the former instead of the latter. Also,
> as I'm getting older, it's becoming quite difficult to read serial
> number labels, fine print, and the handwriting on the wall.
>
> Assuming you do have a DI-524, you should be able to get better
> performance than 3.6Mbits/sec. It should be equal (but no more) than
> your 5.1Mbits/sec speed when directly connected. Therefore, something
> is wrong. The laptop with the unspecified model Intel a/b/g card is
> most certainly 802.11g and should connect at 54Mbits/sec. However, I
> don't many clues as to what's happening (i.e. benchmarks and numbers)
> so I can only speculate on the cause. Possible problems are:
>
> 1. Ancient driver on the Intel a/b/g. I strongly recommend using
> Intel Proset 10.5.0.0 instead of Windoze Wireless Zero Config.
> |
> http://www.intel.com/network/connect...t_software.htm
> Yeah, I know it's a 130Mbyte download. Check the diagnostics and
> logging output for problems.
>
> 2. Slow connection. What wireless connection speed are you getting?
> A file transfer speed of 3.6Mbits/sec is about what I would expect
> from an 11Mbit/sec connection. No clue why it should be going that
> slow, but it's possible.
>
> 3. Are you connected to your own wireless access point or the
> neighbors 802.11b access point? That might explain the sluggish
> performance.
>
> 4. Any TCP/IP errors? Run:
> Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
> netstat -sn | more
> Look for a large percentage of errors?
>
> 5. Any interference? Run:
> Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
> ping -t 192.168.0.1
> The typical latency should be a few milliseconds and should be
> constant. If it varies all over the place and perhaps even times out,
> you've got interference. Try a different channel.
>
> 6. Do you have the latest firmware on your DI-524? I had a customer
> buy a DI-524 and PCMCIA card bundle at Costo. It had lots of weird
> problems including general lack of speed. It also wouldn't maintain a
> wireless connection. I had the customer exchange it for another,
> which worked just fine (after I updated the firmware). If it's a new
> router, you might have a lemon.
>
> There's probably some more things that could go wrong, but it's late
> and I'm lazy. Good luck.
>
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> # 831-336-2558 jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> # http://802.11junk.comjeffl@cruzio.com
> # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:48:00 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
<3msid25bvvr1ppqn7omtqkjuauaj1dtp8s@4ax.com>:
>6. Do you have the latest firmware on your DI-524? I had a customer
>buy a DI-524 and PCMCIA card bundle at Costo. It had lots of weird
>problems including general lack of speed. It also wouldn't maintain a
>wireless connection. I had the customer exchange it for another,
>which worked just fine (after I updated the firmware). If it's a new
>router, you might have a lemon.
In my experience this is a more common problem than is usually thought
-- I've several times seen considerable differences in performance
and/or stability between different samples of the same wireless products
running the same firmware/driver, even from major manfs. I've now taken
to exchanging products near the beginning of troubleshooting instead of
near the end, and it's saved me considerable time and my clients
considerable hassle and expense.
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
Greg <greghays@cox.net> wrote:
> Seriously though. Is it just simply interference that is causing me to
> loose about 1 Mgbps? I just did a bandwidth speed test on speakeasy and
> got 3.6 Mbps down. If I connect to the router directly instead of
> connecting via wireless, I will get upwards of 4.3 Mbps. Not that it
> really matters. It is fast enough for me. I am just wondering why more
> than anything.
I just checked my cable connection, which I bought at 3Mbps, but is now on
the mchsi website at 5mbps (They have 10Mbps for an extra $10... hmmm).
Your speeds are lower than what I see with 802.11b. Something is wrong at
your house.
I like iperf to test my connection, but that requires having a unix account
on the internet that I can use for the other end. Or, as john suggests,
along with a simple stopwatch-timed copy, iperf could run between a wired
and wireless PC on your LAN.
With WinXP-SP2, if I hover the cursor over the WiFi icon in the system
tray, I see "Speed: 54.0 Mbps". Do you get a speed indication?
I also see the brand and SSID name of my router (with Jeff's idea that you
might be inadvertently poaching your neighbor's signal).
If there is interference, or weak signal, I find that this speed
fluctuates, and can be observed with the default Windows Perfmon.
>With WinXP-SP2, if I hover the cursor over the WiFi icon in the system
>tray, I see "Speed: 54.0 Mbps". Do you get a speed indication?
That would indicate an 802.11g connection, but otherwise may not be
meaningful, since even poor connections may report maximum speed when
idle. Put the link under heavy load before checking.
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
I get a good connection. Like I said in one of the above posts, I am right
beside the wireless router when I run my tests.
I live in an apartment that is about 12 years old. The cable probably isn't
the best. But I guess I might be getting signal noise or something that is
causing a slight drop in speed. I can live with it. I was just curious more
than anything. And I don't think I am using my neighbors signal. They only
way I see any other wireless signal is when I am in bed. And it has a
linksys id and the strength is very very low.
<dold@XReXXLower.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
news:ebdiev$h95$1@blue.rahul.net...
> Greg <greghays@cox.net> wrote:
>> Seriously though. Is it just simply interference that is causing me to
>> loose about 1 Mgbps? I just did a bandwidth speed test on speakeasy and
>> got 3.6 Mbps down. If I connect to the router directly instead of
>> connecting via wireless, I will get upwards of 4.3 Mbps. Not that it
>> really matters. It is fast enough for me. I am just wondering why more
>> than anything.
>
> I just checked my cable connection, which I bought at 3Mbps, but is now on
> the mchsi website at 5mbps (They have 10Mbps for an extra $10... hmmm).
>
> Your speeds are lower than what I see with 802.11b. Something is wrong at
> your house.
>
> I like iperf to test my connection, but that requires having a unix
> account
> on the internet that I can use for the other end. Or, as john suggests,
> along with a simple stopwatch-timed copy, iperf could run between a wired
> and wireless PC on your LAN.
>
> Wired 100BaseT laptop:
> ncftp download: 7.66 MB 574 KBytes/s
> iperf download: 5.68 MB 4.61 Mbits/sec
> iperf upload: 552 KB 238 Kbits/sec
>
> 54g 64 bit WEP (54Mbps-Excellent) on the same laptop:
> ncftp download: 7.66 MB 575 KBytes/s
> iperf download: 5.59 MB 4.56 Mbits/sec
> iperf upload: 544 KB 240 Kbits/sec
>
> 11b 64 bit WEP (11Mbps-Excellent) on the same laptop:
> ncftp download: 7.66 MB 532.97 kB/s
> iperf download: 5.62 MB 4.58 Mbits/sec
> iperf upload: 544 KB 241 Kbits/sec
>
> Realtek RTL 8139 Wired NIC
> Netgear WG511 802.11g WiFi
> DLink DWL-122 802.11b USB-WiFi
> Netgear WGR614v4 Wifi Router
> Motorola SB5100 Cable Modem.
>
>
> With WinXP-SP2, if I hover the cursor over the WiFi icon in the system
> tray, I see "Speed: 54.0 Mbps". Do you get a speed indication?
> I also see the brand and SSID name of my router (with Jeff's idea that you
> might be inadvertently poaching your neighbor's signal).
> If there is interference, or weak signal, I find that this speed
> fluctuates, and can be observed with the default Windows Perfmon.
>
> start-run-perfmon.msc
> + Performance Object = Network
> Numbers agree with dslreports.
> + Performance Object = TCP "current bandwidth"
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:23:07 GMT, "Greg" <greg@yahoo.com> wrote in
<vILCg.8413$uo6.6118@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> :
>... And I don't think I am using my neighbors signal. They only
>way I see any other wireless signal is when I am in bed. And it has a
>linksys id and the strength is very very low.
The easy way to tell for sure is to unplug your wireless access
point/router and see if the connection drops.
--
Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:23:07 GMT, "Greg" <greg@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >... And I don't think I am using my neighbors signal. They only
> The easy way to tell for sure is to unplug your wireless access
> point/router and see if the connection drops.
Even though it _is_ what you are testing, it's always a shock when that
works ;-)
My first SBC DSL-gone-bad worked like that... I unplugged the DSL modem
from the wall, phone and AC, and the helpful customer service tech was
still able to ping my "working" modem.
Then they realized that something had been misconfigured.
--
---
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
Good idea. I will try that.
"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:23:07 GMT, "Greg" <greg@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <vILCg.8413$uo6.6118@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> :
>
>>... And I don't think I am using my neighbors signal. They only
>>way I see any other wireless signal is when I am in bed. And it has a
>>linksys id and the strength is very very low.
>
> The easy way to tell for sure is to unplug your wireless access
> point/router and see if the connection drops.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
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