or this All-in-one device for multiple uses, which has a better antenna: http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4654608 Belkin F5D7233 Wireless-G 54Mbps
Router, USB Adapter, Bridge and Access Point $34.99
This is the WGR614v4 Router and WG511 CardBus card that I have.
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000117DGW/ref=pd_luc_mri/002-5316337-0500825?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance>
A router and a card for $39.99.
> Is Fry's Electronic a bad place to buy such things? Heard that they use
> factory rejects? SHould I get it from Comp USA?
I think Fry's does incredible volume, so they wind up with an appropriate
percentage of rejects. I also think they do closeouts with rebates, since
cutting out the UPC means you can't return the item for cash. Those seem
to have a suspiciously high number of defectives in the pile, but I have
seen pallets of small items move through Fry's in a day or two at a single
store.
I have never had a good experience at CompUSA. They advertise incredible
specials that are never in stock in the store, and the sales droids all
want to sell you a fully featured laptop, even if you came in to buy some
blank CDs.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
dold@83.usenet.us.com wrote:
> ME <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > To make my PC wireless capable, I should just get a wireless adapter
> > instead of a card, right?
>
> I don't know what your distinction is between an adapter and a card.
Well, you either put a card or use a USB wireless adapter to make your
PC wireless capable.
BTW, iIt seems that the information you give blow is for making the
network wireless, right? I already have a linksys wireless router.
>
> Most Fry's shoppers would enjoy a cardbus adapter, like
> http://shop2.outpost.com/product/3938648 D-Link DWL-G630 $19.99 or
> http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4354725 Netgear WG511RV $39.99
> or you might go for a USB adapter, which would be a little more cumbersome,
> since it is external, with a cable, but allows better positioning of the
> antenna, which might improve the range.
> http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4412396 USR 54Mpbs USB Adapter $29.99
>
> or this All-in-one device for multiple uses, which has a better antenna:
> http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4654608 Belkin F5D7233 Wireless-G 54Mbps
> Router, USB Adapter, Bridge and Access Point $34.99
>
> This is the WGR614v4 Router and WG511 CardBus card that I have.
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000117DGW/ref=pd_luc_mri/002-5316337-0500825?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance>
> A router and a card for $39.99.
>
>
> > Is Fry's Electronic a bad place to buy such things? Heard that they use
> > factory rejects? SHould I get it from Comp USA?
>
> I think Fry's does incredible volume, so they wind up with an appropriate
> percentage of rejects. I also think they do closeouts with rebates, since
> cutting out the UPC means you can't return the item for cash. Those seem
> to have a suspiciously high number of defectives in the pile, but I have
> seen pallets of small items move through Fry's in a day or two at a single
> store.
>
> I have never had a good experience at CompUSA. They advertise incredible
> specials that are never in stock in the store, and the sales droids all
> want to sell you a fully featured laptop, even if you came in to buy some
> blank CDs.
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
dold@83.usenet.us.com wrote:
> ME <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > To make my PC wireless capable, I should just get a wireless adapter
> > instead of a card, right?
>
> I don't know what your distinction is between an adapter and a card.
>
[..]
>
> This is the WGR614v4 Router and WG511 CardBus card that I have.
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000117DGW/ref=pd_luc_mri/002-5316337-0500825?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance>
> A router and a card for $39.99.
I cliked ont he last lik you gave and saw router info nd assumed that
you were not giving me adapter infor for PC. Sorry.
Thanks for the info.
>
>
> > Is Fry's Electronic a bad place to buy such things? Heard that they use
> > factory rejects? SHould I get it from Comp USA?
>
> I think Fry's does incredible volume, so they wind up with an appropriate
> percentage of rejects. I also think they do closeouts with rebates, since
> cutting out the UPC means you can't return the item for cash. Those seem
> to have a suspiciously high number of defectives in the pile, but I have
> seen pallets of small items move through Fry's in a day or two at a single
> store.
>
> I have never had a good experience at CompUSA. They advertise incredible
> specials that are never in stock in the store, and the sales droids all
> want to sell you a fully featured laptop, even if you came in to buy some
> blank CDs.
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
On 3 Jan 2007 09:42:17 -0800, "ME" <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> wrote:
>To make my PC wireless capable, I should just get a wireless adapter
>instead of a card, right?
Nope. What you should do is start over and supply:
1. What are you trying to accomplish?
2. What do you already have to work with? (Mfg and model numbers
please).
Just pretend that I haven't taken over your computer or looked around
your room through your golf ball camera, and don't have a clue what
you're currently using.
In general, you can get a wireless client in several broad types.
1. Ethernet bridge as in a game adapter.
2. PCI card for inside a desktop.
3. PCMCIA card for a laptop
4. MiniPCI for inside a laptop
5. USB thing for desktop or laptop.
6. CF card wireless for PDA.
7. Whatever else I forgot.
Without knowing what you currently own, I can't tell you how to spend
your money.
>Is Fry's Electronic a bad place to buy such things? Heard that they use
>factory rejects? SHould I get it from Comp USA?
Whether you buy retail or mail odor is strictly your problem. If
you're not sure what you need, then find a dealer that graciously
accepts returns. Both Fry's and CompUSA sometimes fail the easy
return test.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On 3 Jan 2007 09:42:17 -0800, "ME" <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >To make my PC wireless capable, I should just get a wireless adapter
> >instead of a card, right?
>
> Nope. What you should do is start over and supply:
> 1. What are you trying to accomplish?
> 2. What do you already have to work with? (Mfg and model numbers
> please).
> Just pretend that I haven't taken over your computer or looked around
> your room through your golf ball camera, and don't have a clue what
> you're currently using.
I sent you an email about my PC. Can you check the email?
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On 3 Jan 2007 09:42:17 -0800, "ME" <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >To make my PC wireless capable, I should just get a wireless adapter
> >instead of a card, right?
> Nope. What you should do is start over and supply:
> 1. What are you trying to accomplish?
> 2. What do you already have to work with? (Mfg and model numbers
> please).
> Just pretend that I haven't taken over your computer or looked around
> your room through your golf ball camera, and don't have a clue what
> you're currently using.
>
Here is latest update:
I was just trying to get the PC that I regularly use (that I keep close
to my Linksys router which is near comcast modem) wireless - got a
Belkin USB adapter a while agao and got it working with my comcast
service - but the final goal is to get the other PC (downstairs)
wireless. Regular PC is ACUS A7N8X Deluxe w/ processor 1.30 gigahertz
AMD Athlon
The house is pretty big. The router is at the front of the house and
upstairs while the PC downstairs will be moved to the othere the end
of the house and downstairs.
For the PC upstairs, I'll just use cable since it is going to be
sitting next to the router but for the PC downstairs (which I will
eventually put Linux; now it has XP), I MUST make it wireless. I was
just going to use a USB adapter but now I am wondering whether a
wireless PCI would be better? Beside, would G+ be better?
> In general, you can get a wireless client in several broad types.
> 1. Ethernet bridge as in a game adapter.
> 2. PCI card for inside a desktop.
> 3. PCMCIA card for a laptop
> 4. MiniPCI for inside a laptop
> 5. USB thing for desktop or laptop.
> 6. CF card wireless for PDA.
> 7. Whatever else I forgot.
> Without knowing what you currently own, I can't tell you how to spend
> your money.
>
> >Is Fry's Electronic a bad place to buy such things? Heard that they use
> >factory rejects? SHould I get it from Comp USA?
>
> Whether you buy retail or mail odor is strictly your problem. If
> you're not sure what you need, then find a dealer that graciously
> accepts returns. Both Fry's and CompUSA sometimes fail the easy
> return test.
>
> --
> # Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
> # 831-336-2558 jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> # http://802.11junk.comjeffl@cruzio.com
> # http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
>I sent you an email about my PC. Can you check the email?
No. I answer questions in mailing lists, newsgroups, and blogs for
free. That's because everyone learns from the answers. It's also
because sometimes I don't have time to answer. It's also because
sometimes, I don't have a clue while others are better able to answer.
This way, everyone learns.
However, via email, only you benifit. I consider this billable
consulting at $75/hr. You're the only one that benifits, so I think
that is fair. The only exception are questions involving trade
secrets and unreleased products, that would be impossible to disclose.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "ME" <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> hath wroth:
>
> >I sent you an email about my PC. Can you check the email?
>
> No. I answer questions in mailing lists, newsgroups, and blogs for
> free. That's because everyone learns from the answers. It's also
> because sometimes I don't have time to answer. It's also because
> sometimes, I don't have a clue while others are better able to answer.
> This way, everyone learns.
I just meant did you get the inofo on my PC.
I started a new thread since people kept telling me to go to DSL
group. I need wireless hardware info
>
> However, via email, only you benifit. I consider this billable
> consulting at $75/hr. You're the only one that benifits, so I think
> that is fair. The only exception are questions involving trade
> secrets and unreleased products, that would be impossible to disclose.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
ME <truthseeker5678@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was just trying to get the PC that I regularly use (that I keep close
> to my Linksys router which is near comcast modem) wireless - got a
> Belkin USB adapter a while agao and got it working with my comcast
> service - but the final goal is to get the other PC (downstairs)
> wireless. Regular PC is ACUS A7N8X Deluxe w/ processor 1.30 gigahertz
> AMD Athlon
> The house is pretty big. The router is at the front of the house and
> upstairs while the PC downstairs will be moved to the othere the end
> of the house and downstairs.
> For the PC upstairs, I'll just use cable since it is going to be
> sitting next to the router but for the PC downstairs (which I will
> eventually put Linux; now it has XP), I MUST make it wireless. I was
> just going to use a USB adapter but now I am wondering whether a
> wireless PCI would be better? Beside, would G+ be better?
I still can't tell what you have.
Linksys router is working with a Comcast modem. What is the Belkin USB
adapter connected to? Is that wireless (I would presume so, but Jeff would
like to know, and your descriptions are vague.
Try listing what you have working one item at a time, then list what you'd
like to accomplish, one line at a time.
Working:
1 Comcast Modem to Linksys BEFW11S4 router.
2 wired to Realtek internal NIC on WinXP PC, soon to be Linux.
3 Belkin BFG-22 USB WiFi dongle on WinXP laptop.
Wanted:
1 Move the WinXP PC to wireless.
2 Add a WinXP PC wireless downstairs at the other end of the house.
Note:
The house is all steel construction.
What isn't steel is 100 year old plaster.
It is 185 feet from the router to where I want the PC.
That would leave room for some suggestions.
You could put reflectors on the existing Linksys router. I presume
that they all have similar antennas, since you don't mention a model
number. http://www.freeantennas.com EZ-12 Windsurfer.
The downstairs PC might benefit from something like the USB Client
Belkin F5D7233 that I mentioned, since it has external antennas, which
could be further embellished with reflectors or other antennas if needed.
>
> I still can't tell what you have.
> Linksys router is working with a Comcast modem. What is the Belkin USB
> adapter connected to?
Last night, I went and got it to test because I never accessed it
wirelessly.
> Is that wireless (I would presume so, but Jeff would
> like to know, and your descriptions are vague.
>
> Try listing what you have working one item at a time, then list what you'd
> like to accomplish, one line at a time.
[..]
Working:
- Comcast moden connected to Linksys WRT 54 G wirless router
- Two PCs - both XP: and Dell Pentium IV
- I use ethernet cables to connect form PC to router for internet a
cess
- Everything is in the same room upstairs now.
Wanted (I will be getting DSL on Jan 8):
- Linksys WRT 54 G wirless router will be kept near the DSL modem; will
decide whether I should keep DSL moden donstairs or upstairs upon
suggestion
- AMD Athlon PC (ACUS A7N8X Deluxe) will remain upstairs as XP box
- Dell Pentimum will be take downstairs and Linux will be installed
- Establish a network between the two PCs so that I can access all the
drives of both PCS from any of the two PCs; is this what is called
peer-to-peer? Or only one PC can see the oher and not vice versa? I
will talk to my friend about this. I want to establish this network
between the two PCs as *wireless*. I assue that it means that both PC
needs to be wireless capable.
- I have phone jack at noth locations where the pCs will be
- Establish internet connection on both PCs; If I keep the router
upstairs, upstairs PC near can use ethernet cable but the other PC will
need to be wireless capable. I don't know how to go about this, i.e
whether to keep the DSL modem and router upstairs or downstairs.
I am assuming that with the network between the two PCs estalished,
for the PC that is a way from the router, I just access internet via
getting onto the wireless internet newtork. Am I wrong?
Note:
- House is not all steel but I am not sure.
- Distance between router and PCs will not be more than 250ft.
> That would leave room for some suggestions.
>
> You could put reflectors on the existing Linksys router. I presume
> that they all have similar antennas, since you don't mention a model
> number. http://www.freeantennas.com EZ-12 Windsurfer.
>
> The downstairs PC might benefit from something like the USB Client
> Belkin F5D7233 that I mentioned, since it has external antennas, which
> could be further embellished with reflectors or other antennas if needed.
>
> You might also try the
> http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4724469
> Hawking HWU8DD USB 10/100 NIC with Built-In 8dBi Dish Atenna $54.99
>
> I've never had a problem returning items to Fry's, except for the rebate
> items where the UPC has already been sent in.
>
> A friend of mine used the return policy extensively, referring to it as a
> 30 day free trial.
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
> Note:
> The house is all steel construction.
> What isn't steel is 100 year old plaster.
> It is 185 feet from the router to where I want the PC.
>
> That would leave room for some suggestions.
>
> You could put reflectors on the existing Linksys router. I presume
> that they all have similar antennas, since you don't mention a model
> number. http://www.freeantennas.com EZ-12 Windsurfer.
>
> The downstairs PC might benefit from something like the USB Client
> Belkin F5D7233 that I mentioned,
Isn't that for notebook? You eman sotmhign similar for desktop, right?
I want my downstairs PC (linux) connected to my upstairs XP box as
well.
>since it has external antennas, which
> could be further embellished with reflectors or other antennas if needed.
I didn't know about this stuff.
>
> You might also try the
> http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4724469
> Hawking HWU8DD USB 10/100 NIC with Built-In 8dBi Dish Atenna $54.99
>
> I've never had a problem returning items to Fry's, except for the rebate
> items where the UPC has already been sent in.
Same here.
>
> A friend of mine used the return policy extensively, referring to it as a
> 30 day free trial.
Good idea.
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
Re: Got this plan- Re: Making my pc wireless capable
ME wrote:
> Decided to get wired internet access from Linux box and make the XP box
> wirless capable using a PCI adapter.
>
> In fact, a friend suggested to use powerline connector instead of
> ethernet cable to connect Linux box to the router.
Yes, do consider a powerline connector for the DISTANT desktop. I had
good results with the Netgear. They have various speeds so be aware of
whether you want low, med or high speed kit. Medium is probably a safe
bet. Very simple to install and no muss, no fuss.
The computer that is close to the router should be connected by
ethernet cable to the router. (Duh.)
Turn off the radio on the Linksys (for security) and reserve it for
when a wireless capable laptop shows up at your house. Sooner or later,
one will.
Plan B: (cheaper, but less certain) Get a USB wifi adapter and 10-15'
USB extension cable. Install on the distant desktop. Use the
extension to get the adapter/antenna up high and experiment to find a
good reception position. If it works, fine, add WPA security to the
wireless and you are good to go.
Re: Got this plan- Re: Making my pc wireless capable
I should add, if you are determined to use wifi to network, there are
various measures for improving your reception if the initial usb
adapter test doesn't work.
First thing is using homemade reflectors on one or both ends. Anybody
can fill you in on links for reflector making. This can make a
difference.
There are many other possibilities for getting wifi to work. Depends
on if you have more time or more money.
Powerline is one fixed cost and it's done. Will work.
Making my pc wirles capable 
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