Hi, I am new here and I wish to set up my first wireless network. I am
looking for a system that is as simple and as reliable as possible
with no dead spots.
I have been looking at some wireless routers and adapters like
buffalo, Linksys, etc., but I am confused about which equipment is
best for my application.
Here are my specs: I live in a 2500 sq ft house with stucco outside
walls and standard interior walls.The best place for the router would
be next to my desk and primary computer. The routher could stand on
top of a file cabnet about 5 ft from ground. The longest wireless run
from this location would be about 110 ft.This distance would cover my
entire house. I wish to reach two desktop computers that are probably
about 75 ft from the base loaction as the crow flys. However, their
signal would have to go through 2-3 sets of walls and or glass to get
to the desktops or it would have to go a longer way and wind it's way
through a narrow hall. The two desktops are older computers(yr 2000)
that have pre 1.0 or probably 1.1 USB ports. . They have network cards
but don't have wireless adaptors. I am planning on upgrading these
units in the next 2-3 mos to modern vista based computers.
I also will purchase a new laptop and uprgrade my base computer in
the next 6 months. It will go from XP to Vista.
I will be using this system for surfing the net, sharing some files
and my children wish to use it to GAME against each other. I get my
interent service through cox cable.
So which wireless router is best for me? What adaptors should I buy
with it?
On May 27, 8:20 am, lifeisfun <grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I am new here and I wish to set up my first wireless network. I am
> looking for a system that is as simple and as reliable as possible
> with no dead spots.
>
> I have been looking at some wireless routers and adapters like
> buffalo, Linksys, etc., but I am confused about which equipment is
> best for my application.
>
> Here are my specs: I live in a 2500 sq ft house with stucco outside
> walls and standard interior walls.The best place for the router would
> be next to my desk and primary computer. The routher could stand on
> top of a file cabnet about 5 ft from ground. The longest wireless run
> from this location would be about 110 ft.This distance would cover my
> entire house. I wish to reach two desktop computers that are probably
> about 75 ft from the base loaction as the crow flys. However, their
> signal would have to go through 2-3 sets of walls and or glass to get
> to the desktops or it would have to go a longer way and wind it's way
> through a narrow hall. The two desktops are older computers(yr 2000)
> that have pre 1.0 or probably 1.1 USB ports. . They have network cards
> but don't have wireless adaptors. I am planning on upgrading these
> units in the next 2-3 mos to modern vista based computers.
> I also will purchase a new laptop and uprgrade my base computer in
> the next 6 months. It will go from XP to Vista.
>
Why such a hurry to go to Vista when most products are still not
compatible with vista yet noit to mention holes in vista.
> I will be using this system for surfing the net, sharing some files
> and my children wish to use it to GAME against each other. I get my
> interent service through cox cable.
>
> So which wireless router is best for me? What adaptors should I buy
> with it?
Some example that complies to 802.11g are
Linksys Routers : model WRT54G, WRT54GS, WRT54GS, etc. See http://tinyurl.com/r7x5p
(This Linksys page alos shows adaptors.)
Wirelss cards would be cheaper and more stable than adaptors if you
have PCI slots to install them. If not, use
Wireless USB adaptor. Find compatible ones to the routers on
manufacturer's website. Do not get brands other than Linksys, DLink,
Netgear. Examples of wireless USB adaptors are are DLink DWL G122,
DWL G132 will work with DLink router DI 624 and DI-524S, etc.
If the adaptors do not work well, get the more expensive ones with
range boosters. Better not to buy online untill yoiu get the ones
that work well.
On May 27, 9:24 am, lifeisfun <grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I should add that I also have an HP all in one printer that is
> wireless enabled. I would like this to be the sole printer for all of
> my computers.
That printer can connect to the wireless network established with the
routers easily. Any computer that gets onto the home wirless network
would be able to print tp that printer oncve the driver for the
printer is installed on those computers.
> Why such a hurry to go to Vista when most products are still not
> compatible with vista yet noit to mention holes in vista.
I am not in a hurry to go to Vista, but two of my computers are in bad
need of repalcement and I might as well go with Vista on the new
system instead of XP otherwise I will have to buy the operating
software twice. On my base computer I am going to wait until the end
of the year.
I am not sure if G is sufficient for my situation. What do you think?
If it's not, I have been told that Mimo is a better choice than N.
They say that the N is still not as proven as the Mimo and N costs
alot more.
> Some example that complies to 802.11g are
> Linksys Routers : model WRT54G, WRT54GS, WRT54GS, etc. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/r7x5p
> (This Linksys page alos shows adaptors.)
What do you think of the Linksys SRX400 Mimo router? Also what do you
think of the suto mimo router that Buffalo makes?
>> Wirelss cards would be cheaper and more stable than adaptors if you
> have PCI slots to install them. If not, use
> Wireless USB adaptor. Find compatible ones to the routers on
> manufacturer's website. Do not get brands other than Linksys, DLink,
> Netgear. Examples of wireless USB adaptors are are DLink DWL G122,
> DWL G132 will work with DLink router DI 624 and DI-524S, etc.
Also, I have heard that the USB adaptors are very poor vs the PCI
cards. Is this true? The Buffalo uses an ethernet station that hooks
into the ethernet card instead of using a pci card. What do you think
of this?
On May 27, 5:40 pm, lifeisfun <grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Why such a hurry to go to Vista when most products are still not
> > compatible with vista yet noit to mention holes in vista.
>
> I am not in a hurry to go to Vista, but two of my computers are in bad
> need of repalcement and I might as well go with Vista on the new
> system instead of XP otherwise I will have to buy the operating
> software twice.
If you already have XP installed int here, and now if you re-install,
why would have you have to buy another license again? Think about it.
>On my base computer I am going to wait until the end
> of the year.
>
> > For router, get one that complies to either Wireless-G (802.11g) or
> > Wireless-N (802.11n).
> > Brand could be Linksys, D-Link, or Netgear.http://www.Linksys.comhttp://www.D-L...w.netgear.com/
>
> I am not sure if G is sufficient for my situation. What do you think?
Try and see it for yourself.
> If it's not, I have been told that Mimo is a better choice than N.
> They say that the N is still not as proven as the Mimo and N costs
> alot more.
If I were you, I'd try G first.
>
> > Some example that complies to 802.11g are
> > Linksys Routers : model WRT54G, WRT54GS, WRT54GS, etc. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/r7x5p
> > (This Linksys page alos shows adaptors.)
>
> What do you think of the Linksys SRX400 Mimo router? Also what do you
> think of the suto mimo router that Buffalo makes?
No clue. You have to do research and or test and decide. Router setup
is not that difficult.
>
> >> Wirelss cards would be cheaper and more stable than adaptors if you
> > have PCI slots to install them. If not, use
> > Wireless USB adaptor. Find compatible ones to the routers on
> > manufacturer's website. Do not get brands other than Linksys, DLink,
> > Netgear. Examples of wireless USB adaptors are are DLink DWL G122,
> > DWL G132 will work with DLink router DI 624 and DI-524S, etc.
>
> Also, I have heard that the USB adaptors are very poor vs the PCI
> cards. Is this true? The Buffalo uses an ethernet station that hooks
> into the ethernet card instead of using a pci card. What do you think
> of this?
>
> If you already have XP installed int here, and now if you re-install,
> why would have you have to buy another license again? Think about it.
My version of windows is OEM from Dell. I believe this means that you
are not supposed to install it on any other computer besides the
original one. If you buy a new computer with a different motherboard
you are supposed to buy new software.
It's reasonably powerful and reliable and can take after-market
firmware if needed for extra features someday. Other routers will
work, but this is one that has been giving good results for many in
the last year or so.
As far as G vs Mimo vs N, well, Mimo is what N is supposed to be. It
MAY be that Mimo or pre-N (N is not set as a standard yet) will work
better in your environment, but the general advice these days is to
wait until it all gets sorted out. Thus the recommendation for the
Buffalo HP.
On the client end, the Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP ethernet adapter you
mentioned is a good choice especially if you have two or more
computers together in the same room so that they could both benefit
from sharing the same device. This would work well with your existing
ethernet NICs as well. Less to buy, less to configure.
As far as going through 2 - 3 sheetrock walls, that sounds possible
but getting iffy. Better if you can line it up so that it's windows
rather than walls whenever possible. There is a chart here: http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Indoor. Read that wiki to inform
yourself and see the link calculations.
You might start out with these two devices and then see how your
connection is across the house. If it's not good enough, then you can
put a higher gain antenna on the ethernet adapter and/or the router.
The thing about choosing antennas is checking out the pattern it has
and seeing what you need to cover. If the router is on one end of the
house, then go directional with a panel antenna for it. If it's more
in the middle, then you must go with an omni, like the included
antenna, but there are higher gain omnis.
The ethernet adapter will want a directional panel antenna, if
needed.
Again, see how the connection is with the included antennas before
buying higher gain ones. You might need two, or just one. Come back
here and ask for antenna suggestions once you have tested the devices
in place.
This G system with an ethernet adapter as client will work regardless
of your OS or computer. You don't say where your laptop is going to
be located, but it's probably going to have built-in wifi and won't be
N, so that's another reason to just go with G and get higher gain
antenna for the router if needed.
Another option to get across the house is powerline networking. You
would still get the wireless router, but instead of the ethernet
adapter for the far end, you get this:
> The current favorite of the inexpensive G routers is the Buffalo WHR-
> HP-54G.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833162134
>
> It's reasonably powerful and reliable and can take after-market
> firmware if needed for extra features someday. Other routers will
> work, but this is one that has been giving good results for many in
> the last year or so.
This looks like it's worth a try. For under $60 for the router, I
don't have alot to loose.
>
> On the client end, the Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP ethernet adapter you
> mentioned is a good choice especially if you have two or more
> computers together in the same room so that they could both benefit
> from sharing the same device. This would work well with your existing
> ethernet NICs as well. Less to buy, less to configure.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833162168
Unfortunately, I can't string wire between each computer and a single
ethernet adaptor. So I suppose I will have to purchase two of them. I
think that the buffalo PCI cards are about $30 each, but they are just
standard high speed G and don't give the MIMO effect. So as I said I
think I just need two of the above item.
> As far as going through 2 - 3 sheetrock walls, that sounds possible
> but getting iffy. Better if you can line it up so that it's windows
> rather than walls whenever possible. There is a chart here:http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Indoor. Read that wiki to inform
> yourself and see the link calculations.
>
Yes this looks problematic. What really concerns me is that the
enclosed kitchen is between me and the rest of the house. The kitchen
is full of appliances and cabinets.There is no straight unobstructed
path between the base unit and the other two computers.
You don't say where your laptop is going to
> be located, but it's probably going to have built-in wifi and won't be
> N, so that's another reason to just go with G and get higher gain
> antenna for the router if needed.
I would like to use the laptop all over the house. Mostly within 75ft
from base station. But there are many obstructions.
__________________________________________________ ____________________
>
> Another option to get across the house is powerline networking. You
> would still get the wireless router, but instead of the ethernet
> adapter for the far end, you get this:
>
> http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...erlineEthernet...
>
Powerline networking sounds like a good way to go if I just can't get
the wireless to work. At some point I guess I could just pay someone
to put in jacks and string wire, but I am sure this is an $1000 plus
job to do a neat job. Steve, Thanks for the good ideas. Unless anyone
has anything to add in the next day or two, I think that I am going to
give that Buffalo system a try.
I'd weigh in on the Linksys WRT54 routers. I have a lot of customers
who buy our antennae for those routers and they are mighty happy with
the performance - speed and range.
On XP or Vista, I'd pay some attention to a recent announcement from
Dell to offer Win-XP for a couple of more years. Any which way we
look, 1) XP will be around of 2-3 years and most software providers
will support them and 2) Vista will need about that much time to
stabilize. There are really a lot of problems with Vista we hear
about these days. Also it demands higher hardware resources (about 2
times the RAM and processor that needed for RAM) and about twice the
cost.
On May 29, 12:26 am, lifeisfun <grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> > The current favorite of the inexpensive G routers is the Buffalo WHR-
> > HP-54G.
>
> >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833162134
>
> > It's reasonably powerful and reliable and can take after-market
> > firmware if needed for extra features someday. Other routers will
> > work, but this is one that has been giving good results for many in
> > the last year or so.
>
> This looks like it's worth a try. For under $60 for the router, I
> don't have alot to loose.
>
>
>
> > On the client end, the Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP ethernet adapter you
> > mentioned is a good choice especially if you have two or more
> > computers together in the same room so that they could both benefit
> > from sharing the same device. This would work well with your existing
> > ethernet NICs as well. Less to buy, less to configure.
>
> >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833162168
>
> Unfortunately, I can't string wire between each computer and a single
> ethernet adaptor. So I suppose I will have to purchase two of them. I
> think that the buffalo PCI cards are about $30 each, but they are just
> standard high speed G and don't give the MIMO effect. So as I said I
> think I just need two of the above item.
>
> > As far as going through 2 - 3 sheetrock walls, that sounds possible
> > but getting iffy. Better if you can line it up so that it's windows
> > rather than walls whenever possible. There is a chart here:http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Indoor. Read that wiki to inform
> > yourself and see the link calculations.
>
> Yes this looks problematic. What really concerns me is that the
> enclosed kitchen is between me and the rest of the house. The kitchen
> is full of appliances and cabinets.There is no straight unobstructed
> path between the base unit and the other two computers.
>
> You don't say where your laptop is going to
>
> > be located, but it's probably going to have built-in wifi and won't be
> > N, so that's another reason to just go with G and get higher gain
> > antenna for the router if needed.
>
> I would like to use the laptop all over the house. Mostly within 75ft
> from base station. But there are many obstructions.
> __________________________________________________ ____________________
>
>
>
> > Another option to get across the house is powerline networking. You
> > would still get the wireless router, but instead of the ethernet
> > adapter for the far end, you get this:
>
> >http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...erlineEthernet...
>
> Powerline networking sounds like a good way to go if I just can't get
> the wireless to work. At some point I guess I could just pay someone
> to put in jacks and string wire, but I am sure this is an $1000 plus
> job to do a neat job. Steve, Thanks for the good ideas. Unless anyone
> has anything to add in the next day or two, I think that I am going to
> give that Buffalo system a try.
I can't believe my long answer yesterday did not make it here. Stupid
Google.
If it doesn't show up soon, I'll rewrite it. Mostly about a plan to
work around the kitchen using two Routers and a set of Powerline
adapters.
Before you buy anything, check out DD-WRT and see if you would be
willing to re-flash firmware for your Buffalo. If so, then buying two
routers instead of one router and one ethernet adapter would better
allow you to adjust and grow your system.
You do not need two ethernet adapters for two computers within cable
reach. It will take up to four computers.
On May 30, 8:41 am, seaweedsteve <seaweedst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't believe my long answer yesterday did not make it here. Stupid
> Google.
>
> If it doesn't show up soon, I'll rewrite it. Mostly about a plan to
> work around the kitchen using two Routers and a set of Powerline
> adapters.
>
> Before you buy anything, check out DD-WRT and see if you would be
> willing to re-flash firmware for your Buffalo. If so, then buying two
> routers instead of one router and one ethernet adapter would better
> allow you to adjust and grow your system.
>
> You do not need two ethernet adapters for two computers within cable
> reach. It will take up to four computers.
>
> Hopefully yesterday's post will show up.
>
> Steve
Hi Steve sorry about your lost post, I would like to read it. I talked
to buffalo about their mimo router and they brought up the idea of
using two instead of one as a possibility. The more I think about it,
I am very interested in using a wireless router with the powerline
solution. Powerline would work well with the desktops and the wireless
could be swiched on for the laptop. Even if I didn't get perfect
reception with the wireless the powerline would cover me.
I have been looking at the Zyxel PLA-400 as a powerline solution. I
like it because it plugs in by cord and does nott obstruct the wall
socket. I can also get a good deal on them relative to netgear.
The only negatives I have heard about powerline are that you can get
bad performance if you have many other appliances running while using
the internet. Also,
I have heard that if you have a power surge that it can zap your
computer and or network card. Does anyone know if these two problems
are real?
On May 30, 4:08 pm, lifeisfun <grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 8:41 am, seaweedsteve <seaweedst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I can't believe my long answer yesterday did not make it here. Stupid
> > Google.
>
> > If it doesn't show up soon, I'll rewrite it. Mostly about a plan to
> > work around the kitchen using two Routers and a set of Powerline
> > adapters.
>
> > Before you buy anything, check out DD-WRT and see if you would be
> > willing to re-flash firmware for your Buffalo. If so, then buying two
> > routers instead of one router and one ethernet adapter would better
> > allow you to adjust and grow your system.
>
> > You do not need two ethernet adapters for two computers within cable
> > reach. It will take up to four computers.
>
> > Hopefully yesterday's post will show up.
>
> > Steve
>
> Hi Steve sorry about your lost post, I would like to read it. I talked
> to buffalo about their mimo router and they brought up the idea of
> using two instead of one as a possibility. The more I think about it,
> I am very interested in using a wireless router with the powerline
> solution. Powerline would work well with the desktops and the wireless
> could be swiched on for the laptop. Even if I didn't get perfect
> reception with the wireless the powerline would cover me.
>
> I have been looking at the Zyxel PLA-400 as a powerline solution. I
> like it because it plugs in by cord and does nott obstruct the wall
> socket. I can also get a good deal on them relative to netgear.
>
> The only negatives I have heard about powerline are that you can get
> bad performance if you have many other appliances running while using
> the internet. Also,
> I have heard that if you have a power surge that it can zap your
> computer and or network card. Does anyone know if these two problems
> are real?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes. That's what I'm thinking. Like This:
Wireless Router #1 connected to modem covers that end of the house
with ethernet and wireless
Wireless Router #2 on other side of kitchen somewhere covers that side
with both ethernet and wireless
Powerline Ethernet Adapters connect the two routers across the house.
You just buy two of the Buffalo HPs and one Set of ethernet adapters.
It will take a little bit of set-up for the 2nd router, but it sounds
like good reliable approach with both cable and wireless coverage
onboth sides of the house. And you can always plug in another
powerline adapter if you have a PC in a dead spot. Great approach.
I don't know about the Zxel or other brands, but did buy/ install some
Netgear ones to get the signal around a big fireplace. Easy solution
- they worked right out of the box. No set up. Impressive. Other
people have had good experience with Netgear too.
The Wall wart factor is a pain, I suppose, but I'd just put it on a
short extension cord (not a powerstrip).
I also haven't a clue on the possible dangers you mentioned, hopefully
somebody else does...
Pay attention to the speed they are rated for. You want to get at
least the mid-level speed of ...um...84, I think. Not the 11s, or
whatever. You'll probably be doing some streaming around your house
someday and having a stable high speed connection running through the
house wiring will be well worth it.
>>
>> The only negatives I have heard about powerline are that you can get
>> bad performance if you have many other appliances running while using
>> the internet. Also,
>> I have heard that if you have a power surge that it can zap your
>> computer and or network card. Does anyone know if these two problems
>> are real
>
> Yes. That's what I'm thinking. Like This:
>
> Wireless Router #1 connected to modem covers that end of the house
> with ethernet and wireless
> Wireless Router #2 on other side of kitchen somewhere covers that side
> with both ethernet and wireless
> Powerline Ethernet Adapters connect the two routers across the house.
>
> You just buy two of the Buffalo HPs and one Set of ethernet adapters.
> It will take a little bit of set-up for the 2nd router, but it sounds
> like good reliable approach with both cable and wireless coverage
> onboth sides of the house. And you can always plug in another
> powerline adapter if you have a PC in a dead spot. Great approach.
>
> I don't know about the Zxel or other brands, but did buy/ install some
> Netgear ones to get the signal around a big fireplace. Easy solution
> - they worked right out of the box. No set up. Impressive. Other
> people have had good experience with Netgear too.
> The Wall wart factor is a pain, I suppose, but I'd just put it on a
> short extension cord (not a powerstrip).
> I also haven't a clue on the possible dangers you mentioned, hopefully
> somebody else does...
>
> Pay attention to the speed they are rated for. You want to get at
> least the mid-level speed of ...um...84, I think. Not the 11s, or
> whatever. You'll probably be doing some streaming around your house
> someday and having a stable high speed connection running through the
> house wiring will be well worth it.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
For what it's worth, that's essentially what I have... One cable internet
modem, Linksys WRT300N downstairs, and BOTH the netgear 14Mbps AND a Netgear
54Mbps powerline connected to the router part, and upstairs/LR end of the
house (cement block load bearing wall, blocks wireless), a Linksys wrt54g
and the 54Mbps connection to the ROUTER (not the wan input).. I have to take
exception to your thinking that bigger is better (as in numbers and
speed)... Note cable internet is about 6-8 Mbps, so no matter how fast the
powerline or the router, it can never ever go faster than the slowest part
(the cable modem), so the lower speed 14 Mb powerline stuff is still way
faster than my internet connection. Why 2? I essentially have two networks
here.. one (the higher speed 54 Mb one) for me to allow file transfers etc
betweeen machines, and the lower speed one (still way faster than the slow
cable internet) for my sister so she can use the internet but not see or
access my network. and I had some spare wrt54g's in my junkbox, and
connected them with more lower speed ones, so essentially I have 5 AP's now,
usefull when people come over and want to use the internet, but not see my
computers
While it seems to work fine on desktops/laptops/tivo/etc, for some strange
reason it will NOT work on my new dell PDA, had to get a hammock for the
backyard so I could use my laptop, rather than sit in a chair and use the
pda (at least that was my justification for the hammock)...
On May 31, 1:19 am, "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOS...@AkamailNOSPAM.com>
wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, that's essentially what I have...
Great. Sounds like quite the system!
So, what is your take on;
"bad performance if you have many other appliances running while
using
the internet. Also... power surge that it can zap your
computer and or network card. "
Know or seen anything about that?
>.. I have to take
> exception to your thinking that bigger is better (as in numbers and
> speed)...
I'm suggesting that if he buys into one system, it would be wise to
consider other, non-internet uses, like streaming or, as you said,
file-sharing.
And actually you point out that 14Mbps wasn't good enough for you
either.
>the higher speed 54 Mb one) for me to allow file transfers etc
> betweeen machines, and the lower speed one (still way faster than the slow
> cable internet) for my sister ....
How much money will "lifeisfun" save by going with a 14Mbps system
over the 54 (or 84, whatever)? Is it really worth the possible future
limitations when setting up a new home system to save $30-40?
By the way, looking at the Zyxel homeplug product, it looks like it's
high-speed, so this is a non-issue if that's what is being bought.
Costs about double the Netgear though.
Besides price, any known draw-backs to the higher speed ?
I found this on the HomePlug AV standard, which the new Zyxel uses.
"Intellon has claimed that HomePlug AV's technology is superior to its
power-line competitors in part because it is better able to handle
circuit noise resulting from the presence or introduction of other
electrical devices on the same circuit as the networked devices.
A demonstration at the Intellon booth sought to prove the claim. It
consisted of side-by-side notebooks displaying a couple of video
streams, which Intellon said were being transmitted from another
notebook over a HomePlug AV network on one system, and either a DS2 or
Panasonic HD-PLC network on the other.
The video streams looked great on both displays--until a lamp was
plugged into the same power strip. The HomePlug AV video played on
uninterrupted, but artifacts appeared on the display showing video
streamed over the competing technologies. "
The new Netgear HD101 uses DS2, apparently, so it may have the
interference problems. The Netgear XE103s (85Mbps claimed) that we
were talking about use Home-plug 1, I believe, and seem to be good,
perhaps too slow for streaming HD....
Here's a review on the NetGear 101:
"Netgear really made a poor decision using DS2's 200Mb solution chip.
These devices are really poor performers at any price. It's better to
go with their 85Mb adapters that use the Intellon chip. If you're
looking to stream HD TV, it's better to look into the HomeplugAV 200Mb
technology using the Intellon chip. Their reliability and performance
is far better than the DS2 based 200Mb technology."
So, for medium speed and good price- the Netgear 103,104 or the Zyxel
PL-100. For high speed, the Zyxel 400 looks good, or maybe the
Linksys.
On May 31, 1:19 am, "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOS...@AkamailNOSPAM.com>
wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, that's essentially what I have...
Great. Sounds like quite the system!
So, what is your take on;
"bad performance if you have many other appliances running while
using
the internet. Also... power surge that it can zap your
computer and or network card. "
Know or seen anything about that?
>.. I have to take
> exception to your thinking that bigger is better (as in numbers and
> speed)...
I'm suggesting that if he buys into one system, it would be wise to
consider other, non-internet uses, like streaming or, as you said,
file-sharing.
And actually you point out that 14Mbps wasn't good enough for you
either.
>the higher speed 54 Mb one) for me to allow file transfers etc
> betweeen machines, and the lower speed one (still way faster than the slow
> cable internet) for my sister ....
How much money will "lifeisfun" save by going with a 14Mbps system
over the 54 (or 84, whatever)? Is it really worth the possible future
limitations when setting up a new home system to save $30-40?
By the way, looking at the Zyxel homeplug product, it looks like it's
high-speed, so this is a non-issue if that's what is being bought.
Costs about double the Netgear though.
Besides price, any known draw-backs to the higher speed ?
On May 31, 1:19 am, "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOS...@AkamailNOSPAM.com>
wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, that's essentially what I have...
Great. Sounds like quite the system!
So, what is your take on;
"bad performance if you have many other appliances running while
using
the internet. Also... power surge that it can zap your
computer and or network card. "
Know or seen anything about that?
>.. I have to take
> exception to your thinking that bigger is better (as in numbers and
> speed)...
I'm suggesting that if he buys into one system, it would be wise to
consider other, non-internet uses, like streaming or, as you said,
file-sharing.
And actually you point out that 14Mbps wasn't good enough for you
either.
>the higher speed 54 Mb one) for me to allow file transfers etc
> betweeen machines, and the lower speed one (still way faster than the slow
> cable internet) for my sister ....
How much money will "lifeisfun" save by going with a 14Mbps system
over the 54 (or 84, whatever)? Is it really worth the possible future
limitations when setting up a new home system to save $30-40?
By the way, looking at the Zyxel homeplug product, it looks like it's
high-speed, so this is a non-issue if that's what is being bought.
Costs about double the Netgear though.
Besides price, any known draw-backs to the higher speed ?
I hate it that Google does that. It says that the post did not take
and to try again later. I send it later and it takes or not.
Finally, the next day, every attempt shows up. I suppose it has to
do with the delay on our sat system.
Sorry for that.
I may have to switch to using a newsreader....but I'd rather not.
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