Network Printer

Hello,
I have Windows XP Home on my desktop with a HP Photosmart 1115 Printer
hooked up to it. I have a laptop with Windows XP Professional. I am
using a
router to get internet to both CPU's. The desktop has a wire from the
router, the laptop is wireless. The internet works fine. Now I am
trying to set up a shared printer. I have selected my printer to share
in the printers folder and ran the Network Setup Wizard. When I try to
add a network printer by browsing on my laptop it sees the computer
labelled Basement (desktop) but there is no printers under it. I can't
figure out why it won't show up. When I browse for a network printer on
my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
printers properly because it is the same for file sharing. I'm not
overly concerned about the file sharing but if someone could help with
the printer it would be great. If I need to give more information just
let me know.
Thanks!

scottnoddin@hotmail.com hath wroth:

>I have Windows XP Home on my desktop with a HP Photosmart 1115 Printer
>hooked up to it. I have a laptop with Windows XP Professional. I am
>using a
>router to get internet to both CPU's. The desktop has a wire from the
>router, the laptop is wireless. The internet works fine. Now I am
>trying to set up a shared printer. I have selected my printer to share
>in the printers folder and ran the Network Setup Wizard. When I try to
>add a network printer by browsing on my laptop it sees the computer
>labelled Basement (desktop) but there is no printers under it. I can't
>figure out why it won't show up.

On the PC with the printer, go to:
Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall -> Exceptions
-> Programs and Services
and check the box labeled "file and print sharing".

>When I browse for a network printer on
>my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
>problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
>printers properly because it is the same for file sharing. I'm not
>overly concerned about the file sharing but if someone could help with
>the printer it would be great. If I need to give more information just
>let me know.
>Thanks!
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Thanks Jeff,
The box is already checked off. I don't know what else to do.
Thanks,
Scott

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> scottnoddin@hotmail.com hath wroth:
>
> >I have Windows XP Home on my desktop with a HP Photosmart 1115 Printer
> >hooked up to it. I have a laptop with Windows XP Professional. I am
> >using a
> >router to get internet to both CPU's. The desktop has a wire from the
> >router, the laptop is wireless. The internet works fine. Now I am
> >trying to set up a shared printer. I have selected my printer to share
> >in the printers folder and ran the Network Setup Wizard. When I try to
> >add a network printer by browsing on my laptop it sees the computer
> >labelled Basement (desktop) but there is no printers under it. I can't
> >figure out why it won't show up.
>
> On the PC with the printer, go to:
> Control Panel -> Windoze Firewall -> Exceptions
> -> Programs and Services
> and check the box labeled "file and print sharing".
>
> >When I browse for a network printer on
> >my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
> >problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
> >printers properly because it is the same for file sharing. I'm not
> >overly concerned about the file sharing but if someone could help with
> >the printer it would be great. If I need to give more information just
> >let me know.
> >Thanks!
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

scottnoddin@hotmail.com hath wroth:

>The box is already checked off. I don't know what else to do.

So much for the easy fix.

Incidentally, the last time I blundered into something like what
you're seeing was when I somehow successfully had the same NETBIOS
machine names for both machines.

>> >When I browse for a network printer on
>> >my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
>> >problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
>> >printers properly because it is the same for file sharing.

Well, let's verify this from the command line.
Go unto the machine with the printer and invoke:
Start -> run -> cmd <enter>

Run:
net view
which should result in the name of the available servers:
Server Name Remark
-----------------------------------
\\CHOLESTEROL

Then, run:
net view \\cholesterol
which should result in something like:
Share name Type Used as Comment
---------------------------------------------------
_DRIVERS Disk
HPLaserJ Print LPT1 HP LaserJet 2100
ZIP Disk

Note the name of the printer above. The LPT1 is rather unusual as I
need it for running some ancient MSDOS programs. You can see the
redirection with:
net use
which displays something like:
Status Local Remote Network
----------------------------------------------------------------
OK LPT1 \\cholesterol\hplaserj Microsoft Windows
Network
If you don't see the LPT1 on your system, don't worry about it.[1]

Obviously, the names of the servers and printers will be different on
your system.

Now, go unto the other machine and do roughly the same tests:
net view \\cholesterol
You should see the same shares and shared printers as when you were on
the machine with the printer attached.

To manually use the remote printer, run:
net use \\cholesterol\hplaserj /persistent:yes

net use
which will result in something like:
Status Local Remote Network
----------------------------------------------------------------
OK \\cholesterol\hplaserj Microsoft Windows
Network

What I'm hopeing is that you'll get some coherent error message in the
process of running these incantations.




[1] Someone is sure to ask how I did this.
Run:
net use lpt1: \\cholesterol\hplaserj
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

scottnoddin@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
> I have Windows XP Home on my desktop with a HP Photosmart 1115 Printer
> hooked up to it. I have a laptop with Windows XP Professional. I am
> using a
> router to get internet to both CPU's. The desktop has a wire from the
> router, the laptop is wireless. The internet works fine. Now I am
> trying to set up a shared printer. I have selected my printer to share
> in the printers folder and ran the Network Setup Wizard. When I try to
> add a network printer by browsing on my laptop it sees the computer
> labelled Basement (desktop) but there is no printers under it. I can't
> figure out why it won't show up. When I browse for a network printer
> on my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
> problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
> printers properly because it is the same for file sharing. I'm not
> overly concerned about the file sharing but if someone could help with
> the printer it would be great. If I need to give more information just
> let me know.
> Thanks!

Just out of curiosity, are you using the HP photo printing software that
get's installed on some models by default? Not familiar with that exact
model, but my HP deskjet 3930 has it's own printer software (about 45 meg!)
that won't work over a network, just worked locally over USB...

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> scottnoddin@hotmail.com hath wroth:
>
> >The box is already checked off. I don't know what else to do.
>
> So much for the easy fix.
>
> Incidentally, the last time I blundered into something like what
> you're seeing was when I somehow successfully had the same NETBIOS
> machine names for both machines.
>
> >> >When I browse for a network printer on
> >> >my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
> >> >problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
> >> >printers properly because it is the same for file sharing.
>
> Well, let's verify this from the command line.
> Go unto the machine with the printer and invoke:
> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
>
> Run:
> net view
> which should result in the name of the available servers:
> Server Name Remark
> -----------------------------------
> \\CHOLESTEROL
>
> Then, run:
> net view \\cholesterol
> which should result in something like:
> Share name Type Used as Comment
> ---------------------------------------------------
> _DRIVERS Disk
> HPLaserJ Print LPT1 HP LaserJet 2100
> ZIP Disk
>
> Note the name of the printer above. The LPT1 is rather unusual as I
> need it for running some ancient MSDOS programs. You can see the
> redirection with:
> net use
> which displays something like:
> Status Local Remote Network
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> OK LPT1 \\cholesterol\hplaserj Microsoft Windows
> Network
> If you don't see the LPT1 on your system, don't worry about it.[1]
>
> Obviously, the names of the servers and printers will be different on
> your system.
>
> Now, go unto the other machine and do roughly the same tests:
> net view \\cholesterol
> You should see the same shares and shared printers as when you were on
> the machine with the printer attached.
>
> To manually use the remote printer, run:
> net use \\cholesterol\hplaserj /persistent:yes
>
> net use
> which will result in something like:
> Status Local Remote Network
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> OK \\cholesterol\hplaserj Microsoft Windows
> Network
>
> What I'm hopeing is that you'll get some coherent error message in the
> process of running these incantations.
>
>
>
>
> [1] Someone is sure to ask how I did this.
> Run:
> net use lpt1: \\cholesterol\hplaserj
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


I like a wifi printerserver (Linksys).
The Canon I865 will automaticly switching on/off.
Sharing behind PC. I have to put the PC on etc............

Think about a printer server really fine. Don't have to be wireless.

Succes

In article <onqpf2hjog3udvt2hcjmikm7fga76raqha@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>scottnoddin@hotmail.com hath wroth:
>
>>The box is already checked off. I don't know what else to do.
>
>So much for the easy fix.
>
>Incidentally, the last time I blundered into something like what
>you're seeing was when I somehow successfully had the same NETBIOS
>machine names for both machines.
>
>>> >When I browse for a network printer on
>>> >my basement computer (desktop) the printer shows up. I think this
>>> >problem has something to do with the XP Home not sharing its files and
>>> >printers properly because it is the same for file sharing.
>
>Well, let's verify this from the command line.
>Go unto the machine with the printer and invoke:
> Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
>



The printer should have an IP address issued from your DHCP server.
Find that address and see if you can ping it. Lots of recent network
printers have web servers inside and putting http:\\ipaddress\ into
you browser will bring up something interesting.

The printer control panel should have a buttin that prints out
the network settings. Try to find it.

I just wrestled with a new retail Compaq XP/Home system and a HP3055
multifunction printer. The PC had Norton Anti-Everything and something
called SpySweeper set up to prevent any modifications to any system
object without also clicking on "OK" in a pop-up and it didn't always
pop up. It was a PITA turning that stuff off so I could get the
printer working. Then I could figure out the firewall stuff.



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adykes@panix.com (Al Dykes) hath wroth:

>The printer should have an IP address issued from your DHCP server.

Ummmm... The printer is an HP Photosmart 1115. I had had one of these
in the office and am quite familiar it. I got rid of it a few months
ago. It's USB or parallel. No network print server:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...340-78014.html
I don't think it's a network issue unless the OP forgot to mention a
print server. As I understood it, the printer was plugged directly
into a computah.

>I just wrestled with a new retail Compaq XP/Home system and a HP3055
>multifunction printer. The PC had Norton Anti-Everything and something
>called SpySweeper set up to prevent any modifications to any system
>object without also clicking on "OK" in a pop-up and it didn't always
>pop up. It was a PITA turning that stuff off so I could get the
>printer working. Then I could figure out the firewall stuff.

Yep. I've seen those problems with Norton Firewall.

Incidentally, I had to deal with an HP LaserJet 3055 contrivance
recently. I had a hell of a time until I updated the firmware and
drivers:
| http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...5&swEnvOID=228

Last month, I helped setup a new laser/LED printer on a kiosk computer
while their regular guru was on vacation. This was in a store that
offered free internet access. The system was setup to return the
registry back to some preset condition every time it boots. I've also
seen library systems which do that. I would add the printer, it would
work, I would reboot, and the printer was gone. It took me about 15
minutes to figure out what was happening.



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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 4 Sep 2006 22:21:29 -0700, in alt.internet.wireless ,
Clemens.van.Os@gmail.com wrote:
>
>I like a wifi printerserver (Linksys).
>The Canon I865 will automaticly switching on/off.
>Sharing behind PC. I have to put the PC on etc............
>
>Think about a printer server really fine. Don't have to be wireless.

Except that many printers do not work with printservers, especially
photo printers and multifunction devices. Basically if it has a
"clever" driver, which monitors ink levels etc, it may not work with a
printserver.

Case studies
HPLJ6 + Edimax parallel port printserver = ok
HPDJ815 + Edimax parallel port printserver = ok
Lexmark 5150 + USB printserver in SMC router = NOT ok
Epson R220 + USB printserver in SMC router = NOT ok

The Epson lost all extended functionality including CD printing, head
cleaning / maintenance, ink level monitoring etc. - plus it rebooted
the router every ten mins, and more often than not during print jobs.
The Lexmark totally failed to do anything.

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