New to wireless??

Hi All

I've just bought a new PC and it came with a "TP-LINK" wireless network
card installed, plus I bought a second to go into my other PC. Here's the
card specs;

54M/108M Wireless PCI Adapter
108Mbps Super G
2X to 3X eXtended range
2.4GHz .802. 11g/b

Can anyone tell me what other H/ware...S/ware I need to get up and running
thanks.

(Any handy links would be nice :-))



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Regards
p.mc


P5N32-E SLI+
2GB RAM
Pentium C2Duo
Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
SoundBlaster X-Fi

"p.mc" <p@mc.com> hath wroth:

>I've just bought a new PC and it came with a "TP-LINK" wireless network
>card installed, plus I bought a second to go into my other PC.

Any particular model number TP-Link card?
<http://www.tp-link.com>

Also, duz the new PC have a manufacturer and model number?

>Here's the
>card specs;
>
>54M/108M Wireless PCI Adapter
>108Mbps Super G
>2X to 3X eXtended range
>2.4GHz .802. 11g/b

Oh, I get it. It's a guessing game. You supply the abbreviated specs
and I guess the product model number. Is it one of these?
<http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=13>
<http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=17>
Do I get a prize?

>Can anyone tell me what other H/ware...S/ware I need to get up and running
>thanks.

Software? Well, you start with an operating system. Something like
Ubuntu, Fedora Core, SUSE, Debian, etc. One of these:
<http://www.linux.org/dist/>
If desperate, perhaps one of those things that Microsoft sneaks into
new computah might work. It's also possible that your new computah
came with one of these. Look for the square stickers usually
plastered all over the front of the machine.

Once you've selected an operating system, you get to find and download
the drivers for the unspecified card that goes with your unspecified
operating system. Start here:
<http://www.tp-link.com/support/download.asp?c=0>

>(Any handy links would be nice :-))

<http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html>
It will help you identify what's inside your computer so you don't
appear totally inept and incompetent.


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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:4i02b35tdv6ai4etcv4akbmbi5aa6h4m9k@4ax.com...
> "p.mc" <p@mc.com> hath wroth:
>
>>I've just bought a new PC and it came with a "TP-LINK" wireless network
>>card installed, plus I bought a second to go into my other PC.
>
> Any particular model number TP-Link card?
> <http://www.tp-link.com>
>
> Also, duz the new PC have a manufacturer and model number?
>
>>Here's the
>>card specs;
>>
>>54M/108M Wireless PCI Adapter
>>108Mbps Super G
>>2X to 3X eXtended range
>>2.4GHz .802. 11g/b
>
> Oh, I get it. It's a guessing game. You supply the abbreviated specs
> and I guess the product model number. Is it one of these?
> <http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=13>
> <http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=17>
> Do I get a prize?
>
>>Can anyone tell me what other H/ware...S/ware I need to get up and running
>>thanks.
>
> Software? Well, you start with an operating system. Something like
> Ubuntu, Fedora Core, SUSE, Debian, etc. One of these:
> <http://www.linux.org/dist/>
> If desperate, perhaps one of those things that Microsoft sneaks into
> new computah might work. It's also possible that your new computah
> came with one of these. Look for the square stickers usually
> plastered all over the front of the machine.
>
> Once you've selected an operating system, you get to find and download
> the drivers for the unspecified card that goes with your unspecified
> operating system. Start here:
> <http://www.tp-link.com/support/download.asp?c=0>
>
>>(Any handy links would be nice :-))
>
> <http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html>
> It will help you identify what's inside your computer so you don't
> appear totally inept and incompetent.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Hi Jeff

1...WinXp Sp2 ("Sorry" I did add it to my sig below, but had to ammend then
left it out..."Ohh! the irony").
2...model # TL-WN650G.
3...Sorry no prizes... Just the satisfaction of helping out a newbie :-).
4...It's a bespoke system from pcspecialist.co.uk
5...Also I have the drivers, although I'll check out the latest from your
handy link.
6...Nice advisor.

Would it be best for me to get this router?
http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=1

At the moment I use a "Sagem" ADSL modem (Broadband) from "Tiscali".
Also I do use P2P program "Azureus" (incase it has any bearing on what type
of router??)
Don't forget I am a newbie, so please excuse any daft questions.

--
Regards
p.mc

WinXp Sp2
P5N32-E SLI+
2GB RAM
Pentium C2Duo
Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
SoundBlaster X-Fi

"p.mc" <p@mc.com> hath wroth:

>1...WinXp Sp2 ("Sorry" I did add it to my sig below, but had to ammend then
>left it out..."Ohh! the irony").
>2...model # TL-WN650G.

Ok, that makes finding the driver easy.
<http://www.tp-link.com/support/download.asp?a=1&m=TL-WN650G>

>3...Sorry no prizes... Just the satisfaction of helping out a newbie :-).

Grumble....

>4...It's a bespoke system from pcspecialist.co.uk

Ok, so it's not a "name brand" system. Not a problem, but make sure
you get a fairly good list of what's inside the machine. Also, copies
of the drivers. I've seen far too many clone vendors shipping
machines without manuals and driver disks.

>5...Also I have the drivers, although I'll check out the latest from your
>handy link.

There is no way you can buy anything these days and be sure that the
latest driver is in the box. You might want to check for
manufacturers updates for the BIOS, video card firmware, video card
drivers, LAN drivers, etc. Windoze Update takes care of some of
these, but doesn't get everything. Updates are the curse of modern
computing.

>6...Nice advisor.

Yep. I use it for inventory control. Sure beats asking the customer
for what's inside the machine. Note that it displays the version
numbers so you can also use the report to determine if the drivers are
up to date.

>Would it be best for me to get this router?
>http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=1

I have no idea. I'm in the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz California
and we don't have any of those around here. It looks fairly generic
and I don't see anything missing from the specs. If you can get a
good price on it, it should work well enough. The only thing that
bugs me is that I can't tell if it has a removeable antenna. That's
desireable if you're going to play with aftermarket antennas.

>At the moment I use a "Sagem" ADSL modem (Broadband) from "Tiscali".

Sorry. Wrong side of the pond. I'm not familiar with either.

>Also I do use P2P program "Azureus" (incase it has any bearing on what type
>of router??)
>Don't forget I am a newbie, so please excuse any daft questions.

Well Azureus and other Bitorrent problems are a potential problem.
They open large numbers of simulateous streams and sockets, which use
up huge amounts of buffer space in the router. That can easily crash
a router. If your router locks up and hangs, see:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes#Wireless_router_locks_up_and_has_to_be_re started>
This list of routers for Bittorrent is seriously out of date, as most
manufacturers have issued firmware updates that at least reduce the
problem:
<http://www.roumazeilles.net/news/nw/news0068.php>
However, it might give you a clue as to what to look for. In general,
simply limiting the number of connections will prevent a hang on any
router.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Thanks Jeff for your time and input :-))

--
Regards
p.mc

WinXp Pro Sp2
P5N32-E SLI+
2GB RAM
Pentium C2Duo
Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
SoundBlaster X-Fi

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:5ui2b3lfts8td74li98hlme98g46tc06bd@4ax.com...
> "p.mc" <p@mc.com> hath wroth:
>
>>1...WinXp Sp2 ("Sorry" I did add it to my sig below, but had to ammend
>>then
>>left it out..."Ohh! the irony").
>>2...model # TL-WN650G.
>
> Ok, that makes finding the driver easy.
> <http://www.tp-link.com/support/download.asp?a=1&m=TL-WN650G>
>
>>3...Sorry no prizes... Just the satisfaction of helping out a newbie :-).
>
> Grumble....
>
>>4...It's a bespoke system from pcspecialist.co.uk
>
> Ok, so it's not a "name brand" system. Not a problem, but make sure
> you get a fairly good list of what's inside the machine. Also, copies
> of the drivers. I've seen far too many clone vendors shipping
> machines without manuals and driver disks.
>
>>5...Also I have the drivers, although I'll check out the latest from your
>>handy link.
>
> There is no way you can buy anything these days and be sure that the
> latest driver is in the box. You might want to check for
> manufacturers updates for the BIOS, video card firmware, video card
> drivers, LAN drivers, etc. Windoze Update takes care of some of
> these, but doesn't get everything. Updates are the curse of modern
> computing.
>
>>6...Nice advisor.
>
> Yep. I use it for inventory control. Sure beats asking the customer
> for what's inside the machine. Note that it displays the version
> numbers so you can also use the report to determine if the drivers are
> up to date.
>
>>Would it be best for me to get this router?
>>http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=1
>
> I have no idea. I'm in the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz California
> and we don't have any of those around here. It looks fairly generic
> and I don't see anything missing from the specs. If you can get a
> good price on it, it should work well enough. The only thing that
> bugs me is that I can't tell if it has a removeable antenna. That's
> desireable if you're going to play with aftermarket antennas.
>
>>At the moment I use a "Sagem" ADSL modem (Broadband) from "Tiscali".
>
> Sorry. Wrong side of the pond. I'm not familiar with either.
>
>>Also I do use P2P program "Azureus" (incase it has any bearing on what
>>type
>>of router??)
>>Don't forget I am a newbie, so please excuse any daft questions.
>
> Well Azureus and other Bitorrent problems are a potential problem.
> They open large numbers of simulateous streams and sockets, which use
> up huge amounts of buffer space in the router. That can easily crash
> a router. If your router locks up and hangs, see:
> <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes#Wireless_router_locks_up_and_has_to_be_re started>
> This list of routers for Bittorrent is seriously out of date, as most
> manufacturers have issued firmware updates that at least reduce the
> problem:
> <http://www.roumazeilles.net/news/nw/news0068.php>
> However, it might give you a clue as to what to look for. In general,
> simply limiting the number of connections will prevent a hang on any
> router.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"p.mc" <p@mc.com> hath wroth:

>Thanks Jeff for your time and input :-))

Suggestion. Don't put anything important in the Subject, Header, or
Signature. Each of these has their purpose, but none of them should
be used for burying information necessary to answer a question. My
newsreader automatically trims off the signature when composing a
reply. Since I read your message AFTER I started to reply, I never
saw the equipment list in the signature. The equipment list belongs
in the body of the message.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Ahh! Right"...I got used to putting sys specs in the sig for forums, but as
you say if your N/R auto trims sig on replies then that would be a problem
for me. I use "OE6" and it does have the option to trim sig with replies but
I don't check it.

--
Regards
p.mc

WinXp Pro Sp2
P5N32-E SLI+
2GB RAM
Pentium C2Duo
Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
SoundBlaster X-Fi

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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> "p.mc" <p@mc.com> hath wroth:
>
>>Thanks Jeff for your time and input :-))
>
> Suggestion. Don't put anything important in the Subject, Header, or
> Signature. Each of these has their purpose, but none of them should
> be used for burying information necessary to answer a question. My
> newsreader automatically trims off the signature when composing a
> reply. Since I read your message AFTER I started to reply, I never
> saw the equipment list in the signature. The equipment list belongs
> in the body of the message.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Aug 1, 9:21 pm, "p.mc" <p...@mc.com> wrote:
>
> Would it be best for me to get this router?http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=1
>

Looks decent. Latest FW version does WDS and WPA radius, so that's a
good sign of increased function.

Most people here will recommend going with a model that has a bit of a
track record in the US and will, optimally, take replacement firmware
if and when more features are needed.

Two cheap (~ $60 usd) routers on that list are the Linksys WRT-54GL
(L is important) and the various Buffalo WHR-XXX routers. See DD-WRT
wiki for a list of compatibles. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

Steve

"seaweedsteve" <seaweedsteve@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186083512.325210.130920@d30g2000prg.googlegr oups.com...
> On Aug 1, 9:21 pm, "p.mc" <p...@mc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Would it be best for me to get this
>> router?http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=1
>>
>
> Looks decent. Latest FW version does WDS and WPA radius, so that's a
> good sign of increased function.
>
> Most people here will recommend going with a model that has a bit of a
> track record in the US and will, optimally, take replacement firmware
> if and when more features are needed.
>
> Two cheap (~ $60 usd) routers on that list are the Linksys WRT-54GL
> (L is important) and the various Buffalo WHR-XXX routers. See DD-WRT
> wiki for a list of compatibles.
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
>
> Steve
>


"Thanks for the info and link steve", I'll need to do a lot more research
before committing, as you may well know, there's nothing worse than jumping
into something only to find later on what a boob you've made.

I'm in no rush at the moment as I'm still trying to get the optimum out
of "Azureus" with XP Sp2's crap,
10 only simultaneous tcp connections. ( Vista only has 8!) I've patched it
to 1000 half connections but it's like quantum physics trying to get decent
speeds. I've found you have to work out your upload speed and use an on line
calculator (for azureus program) to get the best number settings to apply to
the azureus settings, even then it's still trickled along, compared to the
7000'ish tcp connections you get with "Xp Sp1" It makes Sp2 look like a
snail.
It's supposedly to stop the spread of worms!..More like a cap if you ask me.
I believe it's worse on a network.

--
Regards
p.mc

WinXp Pro Sp2
P5N32-E SLI+
2GB RAM
Pentium C2Duo
Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
SoundBlaster X-Fi

On Aug 3, 2:32 pm, "p.mc" <p...@mc.com> wrote:

> I'm in no rush at the moment as I'm still trying to get the optimum out
> of "Azureus" with XP Sp2's crap,
> 10 only simultaneous tcp connections. ( Vista only has 8!) I've patched it
> to 1000 half connections but it's like quantum physics trying to get decent
> speeds. I've found you have to work out your upload speed and use an on line
> calculator (for azureus program) to get the best number settings to apply to
> the azureus settings, even then it's still trickled along, compared to the
> 7000'ish tcp connections you get with "Xp Sp1" It makes Sp2 look like a
> snail.


I remember there was a quick fix that you run to correct that XP tcp
connections limitation. Was it only 10? I have used Shareaza (to the
degree that Satellite allows it) and I think they have a utility in
their help, I forget where I saw that.

I do like Shareaza and recommend it for P2P, though for my connection
(Satellite) P2P is hopeless.

I can't believe that adjusting the tcp connection limit is as
complicated as you are saying, but maybe there's something weird about
Azureus...

But, I digress. Back to routers. If they are availible for a fair
price where you are,then the Buffalo WHR-HP is a good bet for a cheap,
reliable router with good range that could be upgraded (if needed) to
DD-WRT.

Steve

Avoid D-Link like the plague.

DIR 615 failed in less than 60 days. It had to forced to clone
the MAC address one to two times a day. It finally completely
quit. Tech support indicated the ROM chip was gone after one of
their tests. Their software does not allow you to block or
schedule individual ip's on your LAN.
My wife mislaid the original sales receipt, and they will only
send a reconditioned unit as a replacement. We have to package
and pay for shipping to them. IMHO, their RMA policy is sad.
They had repeated email and tech support case numbers to
reference. I guess they think I stole the thing. My previous
limited RMA experiences sent me a new unit and I returned the dead
soldier in their packaging at their expense (I do believe I had to
give them my credit card number to keep me honest).

I learned a valuable lesson. If any computer part is even a
little flaky, return it to the vendor within their return policy.
Do NOT depend on the manufacturer to be honorable or to correct
software problems.

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Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)
dgriff237@7cox.net



"p.mc" <p@mc.com> wrote in message
news:46b100e2$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Hi All
>
> I've just bought a new PC and it came with a "TP-LINK" wireless
> network card installed, plus I bought a second to go into my
> other PC. Here's the card specs;
>
> 54M/108M Wireless PCI Adapter
> 108Mbps Super G
> 2X to 3X eXtended range
> 2.4GHz .802. 11g/b
>
> Can anyone tell me what other H/ware...S/ware I need to get up
> and running thanks.
>
> (Any handy links would be nice :-))
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> p.mc
>
>
> P5N32-E SLI+
> 2GB RAM
> Pentium C2Duo
> Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
> Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
> SoundBlaster X-Fi
>
>

Hi Ste

Is this it?...Wow! it's dirt cheap. "Thanks"
http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/produ...r=WHR-HP-G54-1

BTW was this the quick fix? If so that's what I used.
http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=4226patch/faq


--
Regards
p.mc

WinXp Pro Sp2
P5N32-E SLI+
2GB RAM
Pentium C2Duo
Nvidia GeForce GTX8800
Creative GIGAWorks G550 Wireless
SoundBlaster X-Fi

"seaweedsteve" <seaweedsteve@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186180848.556607.100310@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Aug 3, 2:32 pm, "p.mc" <p...@mc.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm in no rush at the moment as I'm still trying to get the optimum
>> out
>> of "Azureus" with XP Sp2's crap,
>> 10 only simultaneous tcp connections. ( Vista only has 8!) I've patched
>> it
>> to 1000 half connections but it's like quantum physics trying to get
>> decent
>> speeds. I've found you have to work out your upload speed and use an on
>> line
>> calculator (for azureus program) to get the best number settings to apply
>> to
>> the azureus settings, even then it's still trickled along, compared to
>> the
>> 7000'ish tcp connections you get with "Xp Sp1" It makes Sp2 look like a
>> snail.
>
>
> I remember there was a quick fix that you run to correct that XP tcp
> connections limitation. Was it only 10? I have used Shareaza (to the
> degree that Satellite allows it) and I think they have a utility in
> their help, I forget where I saw that.
>
> I do like Shareaza and recommend it for P2P, though for my connection
> (Satellite) P2P is hopeless.
>
> I can't believe that adjusting the tcp connection limit is as
> complicated as you are saying, but maybe there's something weird about
> Azureus...
>
> But, I digress. Back to routers. If they are availible for a fair
> price where you are,then the Buffalo WHR-HP is a good bet for a cheap,
> reliable router with good range that could be upgraded (if needed) to
> DD-WRT.
>
> Steve
>

"p.mc" <p@mc.com> wrote in message
news:46b53b67_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Hi Ste
>
> Is this it?...Wow! it's dirt cheap. "Thanks"
> http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/produ...r=WHR-HP-G54-1
>
> BTW was this the quick fix? If so that's what I used.
> http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=en&url=4226patch/faq

>

Set to "6000" connections when patched and all is well.:-))

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Regards
p.mc