NEWS: iPhone becomes phisherman's friend

#31 (**permalink**) 08-29-2007, 03:15 PM

At 29 Aug 2007 07:44:19 -0700 SMS wrote:

> It's not hatred of AT&T per se, it's that many people want to buy
> iPhones for the browser, mainly using Wi-Fi, and don't want to pay
> the high monthly cost. The unlocked iPhone allows you to use a very
> low priced prepaid plan from T-Mobile.

That can't be it- there's already the "no phone service" hack that
surfaced immediately, and frankly, while T-Mo does have a better
prepaid plan than AT&T, AT&T's isn't that expensive, and at least has
(expensive) EDGE data available as a backup. Unlocking is a lot of
work to save a couple of bucks on prepaid servive.

I suspect the hacking of the iPhone is mostly an Everest thing...
(both for the challenge and "because it's there.") plus our basic
human revulsion at being told by someone else what you can and can't
do! ;-)

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"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

#32 (**permalink**) 08-30-2007, 05:00 PM

Todd Allcock wrote:

> That can't be it- there's already the "no phone service" hack that
> surfaced immediately, and frankly, while T-Mo does have a better
> prepaid plan than AT&T, AT&T's isn't that expensive, and at least has
> (expensive) EDGE data available as a backup. Unlocking is a lot of
> work to save a couple of bucks on prepaid servive.

It's more than a couple of bucks. After going "gold" you can have
T-Mobile prepaid for $10 per year, while AT&T is $100/year minimum, AFAICS.

The main reason to buy the current generation of iPhone is for the web
browser over WiFi. It's not a good device for texting, and it lacks the
applications available on true PDA phones. Web use on EDGE is very slow.
Still, even if you buy it for the WiFi and web browser it's nice to have
the phone part work. If you want the phone portion to work without
paying a lot, T-Mobile is the way to go.

#33 (**permalink**) 08-30-2007, 08:48 PM

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:00:33 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <46d6f768$0$27223$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> That can't be it- there's already the "no phone service" hack that
>> surfaced immediately, and frankly, while T-Mo does have a better
>> prepaid plan than AT&T, AT&T's isn't that expensive, and at least has
>> (expensive) EDGE data available as a backup. Unlocking is a lot of
>> work to save a couple of bucks on prepaid servive.
>
>It's more than a couple of bucks. After going "gold" you can have
>T-Mobile prepaid for $10 per year, while AT&T is $100/year minimum, AFAICS.
>
>The main reason to buy the current generation of iPhone is for the web
>browser over WiFi. It's not a good device for texting, and it lacks the
>applications available on true PDA phones. Web use on EDGE is very slow.
>Still, even if you buy it for the WiFi and web browser it's nice to have
>the phone part work. If you want the phone portion to work without
>paying a lot, T-Mobile is the way to go.

Anything to slam AT&T. Why am I not surprised.

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#34 (**permalink**) 08-31-2007, 03:44 AM

"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:00:33 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote in <46d6f768$0$27223$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>
>>Todd Allcock wrote:
>>
>>> That can't be it- there's already the "no phone service" hack that
>>> surfaced immediately, and frankly, while T-Mo does have a better
>>> prepaid plan than AT&T, AT&T's isn't that expensive, and at least has
>>> (expensive) EDGE data available as a backup. Unlocking is a lot of
>>> work to save a couple of bucks on prepaid servive.
>>
>>It's more than a couple of bucks. After going "gold" you can have
>>T-Mobile prepaid for $10 per year, while AT&T is $100/year minimum,
>>AFAICS.
>>
>>The main reason to buy the current generation of iPhone is for the web
>>browser over WiFi. It's not a good device for texting, and it lacks the
>>applications available on true PDA phones. Web use on EDGE is very slow.
>>Still, even if you buy it for the WiFi and web browser it's nice to have
>>the phone part work. If you want the phone portion to work without
>>paying a lot, T-Mobile is the way to go.
>
> Anything to slam AT&T. Why am I not surprised.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

Unlike yourself. We don't kiss the ground AT&T walks on.

#35 (**permalink**) 08-31-2007, 05:07 AM

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:44:19 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<39MBi.582$4J3.105@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:f7bed39s9bma91u41pss6kgc6oif674i8g@4ax.com.. .

>> Anything to slam AT&T. Why am I not surprised.

>Unlike yourself. We don't kiss the ground AT&T walks on.

Good for you. Likewise me. Have a nice day.

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#36 (**permalink**) 09-01-2007, 02:18 PM

Kevin Weaver wrote:
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:f7bed39s9bma91u41pss6kgc6oif674i8g@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:00:33 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote in <46d6f768$0$27223$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>>
>>> Todd Allcock wrote:
>>>
>>>> That can't be it- there's already the "no phone service" hack that
>>>> surfaced immediately, and frankly, while T-Mo does have a better
>>>> prepaid plan than AT&T, AT&T's isn't that expensive, and at least has
>>>> (expensive) EDGE data available as a backup. Unlocking is a lot of
>>>> work to save a couple of bucks on prepaid servive.
>>>
>>> It's more than a couple of bucks. After going "gold" you can have
>>> T-Mobile prepaid for $10 per year, while AT&T is $100/year minimum,
>>> AFAICS.
>>>
>>> The main reason to buy the current generation of iPhone is for the web
>>> browser over WiFi. It's not a good device for texting, and it lacks the
>>> applications available on true PDA phones. Web use on EDGE is very slow.
>>> Still, even if you buy it for the WiFi and web browser it's nice to have
>>> the phone part work. If you want the phone portion to work without
>>> paying a lot, T-Mobile is the way to go.
>>
>> Anything to slam AT&T. Why am I not surprised.

> Unlike yourself. We don't kiss the ground AT&T walks on.

Jeez, stating the fact that T-Mobile's prepaid costs less than AT&T's
prepaid, and that EDGE is slow, is somehow slamming AT&T?

Unlike Navas, I am not shilling for any carrier, I just state the facts.

#37 (**permalink**) 09-01-2007, 03:18 PM

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:18:47 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <46d9747d$0$27186$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>Kevin Weaver wrote:
>> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:f7bed39s9bma91u41pss6kgc6oif674i8g@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:00:33 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>> wrote in <46d6f768$0$27223$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>>>> The main reason to buy the current generation of iPhone is for the web
>>>> browser over WiFi. It's not a good device for texting, and it lacks the
>>>> applications available on true PDA phones. Web use on EDGE is very slow.
>>>> Still, even if you buy it for the WiFi and web browser it's nice to have
>>>> the phone part work. If you want the phone portion to work without
>>>> paying a lot, T-Mobile is the way to go.
>>>
>>> Anything to slam AT&T. Why am I not surprised.
>
>> Unlike yourself. We don't kiss the ground AT&T walks on.
>
>Jeez, stating the fact that T-Mobile's prepaid costs less than AT&T's
>prepaid, and that EDGE is slow, is somehow slamming AT&T?

EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow", and you are slamming AT&T at every
opportunity.

>Unlike Navas, I am not shilling for any carrier, I just state the facts.

You are actually misstating the "facts", conducting a personal vendetta
against GSM in general and AT&T in particular, and attacking me for
setting the record straight.

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#38 (**permalink**) 09-03-2007, 05:07 AM

On Aug 26, 8:46 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:58:40 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
> >He was proved wrong about who was
> >offered the iphone 1st. It was shown to him
>
> Wrong on all counts. Again. Get a life.

Wrong again. It was indeed clearly shown Apple approached Verizon
before AT&T.