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Old 03-30-2007, 07:55 PM
mcguirem3m
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Default No one answered my question?

I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all but I
can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm using a
Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan cards in the
workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to 36mbps connection but
doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping anything. What am I missing?
I'm sure it's something I missed as I'm just getting started with wireless
connectivity. Any help from you Gurus would be appreciated. Thanks



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Old 03-30-2007, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: No one answered my question?

Not being familiar with using the Newsgroup, I meant to refer back to the
question theme on 3/23 on "Connected but not really" I didn't see any
conclusions there only what MS should do to change it to "Ready" instead of
just connected.

"mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:tRdPh.12308$5i7.11085@bignews4.bellsouth.net. ..
>I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all but I
>can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm using a
>Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan cards in the
>workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to 36mbps connection but
>doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping anything. What am I
>missing? I'm sure it's something I missed as I'm just getting started with
>wireless connectivity. Any help from you Gurus would be appreciated.
>Thanks
>




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Old 03-30-2007, 09:05 PM
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"mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:tRdPh.12308$5i7.11085@bignews4.bellsouth.net:

> I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all
> but I can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm
> using a Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan cards
> in the workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to 36mbps
> connection but doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping
> anything. What am I missing? I'm sure it's something I missed as I'm
> just getting started with wireless connectivity. Any help from you
> Gurus would be appreciated. Thanks


What are you trying to ping ? How are you configuring the access point ?


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Old 03-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
news:Xns9903AE77C3BF5thisnthatadelphianet@216.196. 97.142...
> "mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:tRdPh.12308$5i7.11085@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>
>> I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all
>> but I can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm
>> using a Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan cards
>> in the workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to 36mbps
>> connection but doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping
>> anything. What am I missing? I'm sure it's something I missed as I'm
>> just getting started with wireless connectivity. Any help from you
>> Gurus would be appreciated. Thanks

>
> What are you trying to ping ? How are you configuring the access point ?
>

I went through the 'setup' that comes with Linksys and entered the data it
ask for regarding SSID , the Login ID/PW for the DSL and then the
Passphrase. That's all that it ask me to do. I can access the internet on
the machine that is directly connected to the router with an ethernet cable
but not through the workstation downstairs that has a Gigabyte Turbo 802.11
g/b wireless lan card. It detects the router just fine with the right SSID
and ask for the passphrase and I carefully enter that and it gets connected
at 24 to 36 mbps. But I try to ping "anything" Amazon, an address and if I
type it in wrong it says I have the wrong name but with an IP address it
comes back as with all tries and returns 4 tries with no returns after 4
attempts. Does that help?



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Old 03-30-2007, 11:31 PM
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"***** charles" <shultzjrX@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:VvgPh.993$Q23.870@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net. ..
> "mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:JffPh.12378$5i7.11135@bignews4.bellsouth.net. ..
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9903AE77C3BF5thisnthatadelphianet@216.196. 97.142...
>> > "mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> > news:tRdPh.12308$5i7.11085@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>> >
>> >> I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all
>> >> but I can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm
>> >> using a Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan cards
>> >> in the workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to 36mbps
>> >> connection but doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping
>> >> anything. What am I missing? I'm sure it's something I missed as I'm
>> >> just getting started with wireless connectivity. Any help from you
>> >> Gurus would be appreciated. Thanks
>> >
>> > What are you trying to ping ? How are you configuring the access point
>> > ?
>> >

>> I went through the 'setup' that comes with Linksys and entered the data
>> it
>> ask for regarding SSID , the Login ID/PW for the DSL and then the
>> Passphrase. That's all that it ask me to do. I can access the internet

> on
>> the machine that is directly connected to the router with an ethernet

> cable
>> but not through the workstation downstairs that has a Gigabyte Turbo

> 802.11
>> g/b wireless lan card. It detects the router just fine with the right

> SSID
>> and ask for the passphrase and I carefully enter that and it gets

> connected
>> at 24 to 36 mbps. But I try to ping "anything" Amazon, an address and
>> if

> I
>> type it in wrong it says I have the wrong name but with an IP address it
>> comes back as with all tries and returns 4 tries with no returns after 4
>> attempts. Does that help?

>
> Sorry to be late in the process. You still haven't outlined ALL the
> hardware
> involved and how it is set up. For instance I got the impression that you
> have
> two descktop computers one with a wire connection to the router and one
> with a wireless connection to the router. Can you ping the router intself
> with
> the wireless connection and can you ping the router with the computer that
> is
> connected with the wire?
> If you are still having difficulties, RESET the box and start from there
> with no
> security etc...
>
> later,
> charles.....
>
> Charles, you are correct. Two desktops, one direct connected(but also
> with a wireless card for future use) and one separately connected about 60
> to 70 feet away connecting wirelessly. So I tried pinging the router from
> the directly connected and the wireless and they both can ping the router
> with 4 for 4 in milliseconds. Since I started this question I have found
> out how to log onto the router with the browser and checked the
> connection. When I got to the last page for STATUS I saw that the
> Internet was disconnected and so I tried to connect. It goes through
> about 4 tires and comes back with a message " Can't get an IP address from
> the PPPoE Server. I chated with a Bellsouth person who concluded I
> needed to talk to Linksys about this as he couldn't help me. That doesn't
> appear correct but what do I know?
>




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Old 03-30-2007, 11:51 PM
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"mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:JffPh.12378$5i7.11135@bignews4.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
> news:Xns9903AE77C3BF5thisnthatadelphianet@216.196. 97.142...
> > "mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> > news:tRdPh.12308$5i7.11085@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
> >
> >> I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all
> >> but I can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm
> >> using a Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan cards
> >> in the workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to 36mbps
> >> connection but doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping
> >> anything. What am I missing? I'm sure it's something I missed as I'm
> >> just getting started with wireless connectivity. Any help from you
> >> Gurus would be appreciated. Thanks

> >
> > What are you trying to ping ? How are you configuring the access point ?
> >

> I went through the 'setup' that comes with Linksys and entered the data it
> ask for regarding SSID , the Login ID/PW for the DSL and then the
> Passphrase. That's all that it ask me to do. I can access the internet

on
> the machine that is directly connected to the router with an ethernet

cable
> but not through the workstation downstairs that has a Gigabyte Turbo

802.11
> g/b wireless lan card. It detects the router just fine with the right

SSID
> and ask for the passphrase and I carefully enter that and it gets

connected
> at 24 to 36 mbps. But I try to ping "anything" Amazon, an address and if

I
> type it in wrong it says I have the wrong name but with an IP address it
> comes back as with all tries and returns 4 tries with no returns after 4
> attempts. Does that help?


Sorry to be late in the process. You still haven't outlined ALL the
hardware
involved and how it is set up. For instance I got the impression that you
have
two descktop computers one with a wire connection to the router and one
with a wireless connection to the router. Can you ping the router intself
with
the wireless connection and can you ping the router with the computer that
is
connected with the wire?
If you are still having difficulties, RESET the box and start from there
with no
security etc...

later,
charles.....




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Old 03-31-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: No one answered my question?

Just make sure your Gateway is set to your routers IP (probably 192.168.1.1)
and that you have DNS and secondary DNS IP set up (usually your ISP's DNS,
but any will do).
Regards,
Martin



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Old 03-31-2007, 03:24 AM
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"mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:JffPh.12378$5i7.11135@bignews4.bellsouth.net:

>
> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
> news:Xns9903AE77C3BF5thisnthatadelphianet@216.196. 97.142...
>> "mcguirem3m" <mcguirem3m@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news:tRdPh.12308$5i7.11085@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>> I can get connected and have a 192... IP address using IPconfig/all
>>> but I can't ping anything therefore I'm not "really" connected. I'm
>>> using a Linksys WRT54G Router and Gigabyte desktop wlan pci lan
>>> cards in the workstation. It sees the SSID fine and gets a 24 to
>>> 36mbps connection but doesn't connect to the Internet nor can I ping
>>> anything. What am I missing? I'm sure it's something I missed as
>>> I'm just getting started with wireless connectivity. Any help from
>>> you Gurus would be appreciated. Thanks

>>
>> What are you trying to ping ? How are you configuring the access
>> point ?
>>

> I went through the 'setup' that comes with Linksys and entered the
> data it ask for regarding SSID , the Login ID/PW for the DSL and then
> the Passphrase. That's all that it ask me to do. I can access the
> internet on the machine that is directly connected to the router with
> an ethernet cable but not through the workstation downstairs that has
> a Gigabyte Turbo 802.11 g/b wireless lan card. It detects the router
> just fine with the right SSID and ask for the passphrase and I
> carefully enter that and it gets connected at 24 to 36 mbps. But I
> try to ping "anything" Amazon, an address and if I type it in wrong
> it says I have the wrong name but with an IP address it comes back as
> with all tries and returns 4 tries with no returns after 4 attempts.
> Does that help?


Yes, I should have been a little more detailed.

1. You are trying to ping an internet address.

and 2. Can you access the rtr configuration over the wireless ?

If you can access the rtr page on the wireless, it may be a DNS issue. If
#2 is true, then you should be able to ping the rtr and anything else
connected to the network.

At that point, first thing to look at is a proper DNS setting in the
wireless PC. Try pinging 24.48.33.2, a direct internet address, which
doesn't rely on DNS.

ALL communications is done withe the IP address. When you type in
yahoo.com, your PC contacts the DNS server listed to ask for an IP
address of yahoo.com. It sends the address back to your PC, and then your
PC goes on and contact yahoo via its IP address. Pinging 24.48.33.2 take
DNS out of the loop. If that goes thru, probably DNS issue. This is in
the TCP/IP configuration of the PC.

Martin mentioned that it is usually set to the rtr IP, but if that fails,
the 24.48.33.2 address is a DNS server you can try out. I have seen rtr's
that didn't forward DNS properly.




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Old 03-31-2007, 08:30 AM
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<snip>

> > connection. When I got to the last page for STATUS I saw that the
> > Internet was disconnected and so I tried to connect. It goes through
> > about 4 tires and comes back with a message " Can't get an IP address

from
> > the PPPoE Server. I chated with a Bellsouth person who concluded I
> > needed to talk to Linksys about this as he couldn't help me. That

doesn't
> > appear correct but what do I know?


What kind of "modem" (brand/model) do you have? Does your ISP require
PPPoE or can it establish a "regular" ethernet connection? PPPoE is older
technology. Your router may not default to that configuration. Remember
the recommendation to RESET the router. Find the little button and turn on
the router and push it in and hold it in for about 20 to 30 seconds. Then
you
may have to go through the configuration menu in the router to turn on the
PPPoE capability. With consumer dsl accounts the ISP assumes that you will
be connecting ONE computer to THEIR network. The router can mimic that
kind of connection so from the ISP's side, it still thinks that there is one
computer connected to their network. Don't forget to change the
administrator
password, very important. Otherwise someone else can get into your router
after you get an Internet connection and reprogram your router. Anyway, a
call
to Linksys wouldn't hurt. Bellsouth may require you to connect their modem
to
one of your Windows machines to establish the link initially. Then after
that works
you can change your configuration (add router, etc...) as much as you want.
"In
the old days" the ISP's wouldn't help the user out with anything but the
standard
install computer => their modem => their network. Now they are getting a
little
more flexible knowing that their customers are getting more savvy. The tech
guy
at my ISP, AT&T/Yahoo, talk my through my first dsl install and I had an
older
WRT54G Ver 2.0. Now after helping dozens of others locally set up their dsl
links, I can practically do it in my sleep, Windows, OS X, Linux, BSD no
sweat.

later,
charles.....



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Old 04-01-2007, 12:45 PM
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"Martin²" <never@give.one> wrote in message
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> Just make sure your Gateway is set to your routers IP (probably
> 192.168.1.1) and that you have DNS and secondary DNS IP set up (usually
> your ISP's DNS, but any will do).
> Regards,
> Martin
>


Sorry for not getting back sooner. I didn't feel your suggestions were
going in the right direction since this was a new set up. So I searched the
Linksys web site which had a ton of info about everything you can think of.
My conclusion was that maybe there was a firmware upgrade since this version
came out in 2006.

In chating with a Linksys support person for one and one-half hours checking
everything possible, she finally showed me the latest firmware. I
downloaded it and installed it and bingo! Everything started working. My
wireless connections run beautifully.

I have learned a lot from all of the threads in this News group and
appreciate the willingness of you guys to offer your support in the best way
you know how to total strangers. That's got to say something for your
character. Thanks again and I'm now a fan of this group. Who knows, maybe
I can help someone following your example.

Later Morris



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