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Old 10-29-2005, 10:31 PM
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Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you know what
they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
Regards
Mark



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Old 10-30-2005, 12:48 AM
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MARK wrote:
> Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you know
> what they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
> Regards
> Mark


Been using them for years, and they work absolutely great. Specially in
places that have power, but you'd have to rip out metal/walls for network
cable (like boats RV's and planes). Unfortunatly, they usually only go to
around 14Mb (faster than B but slower than G), and many many people want a
way bigger number (like 108 Mb), so they can wrongly say that their 4Mb
Cable or 2 Mb DSL/sat is faster than anyone elses and runs at 54/108 etc...

Why spend 50 or 60 bucks, when you can run new cat 5/6 wires in walls for
hundreds/thousands? This is the USA.. It's imperitive that you waste
thousands of dollars on something you don't need but is cheap/easy/works
great in most situations.. our economy depends on people spending large
amounts of money they don't need to. You'd be a commie if you didn't spend
thousands more than you have too, and keep our economy growing.



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Old 10-30-2005, 12:52 AM
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Hi Mark.

I'm using a wireless power line device during my summer holidays in France:
it's working very well if you have a powerful broadband connection.
I have 8 mega DSL provided by Wanadoo, it goes into my router and from there
into a power adapter plugged in an outlet.
Any power outlet in the house now have broadband and you can connect your PC
to it with another adapter.
Also, you can connect a special wireless device in the plug with a range of
200 meters, ideal to cover a garden with pool.
The great thing about a powerline network is you can have a connection
through any electrical plug and you don't need to run phone lines through
your house, especially if it's quite large with several floors and an
outdoor area.
Go for it if you have it where you are living!

Cheers,

Steffo


MARK wrote:
> Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you know
> what they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
> Regards
> Mark




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Old 10-30-2005, 08:26 AM
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> This is the USA.. It's imperitive that you waste
> thousands of dollars on something you don't need but is cheap/easy/works
> great in most situations.. our economy depends on people spending large


OP is in the UK, he can't spend thousands of dollars, they won't be
accepted in the shops!

:)

David.

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Old 10-30-2005, 09:01 AM
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David Taylor wrote:
>> This is the USA.. It's imperitive that you waste
>> thousands of dollars on something you don't need but is
>> cheap/easy/works great in most situations.. our economy depends on
>> people spending large

>
> OP is in the UK, he can't spend thousands of dollars, they won't be
> accepted in the shops!
>
> :)
>
> David.


Oh... Well, as rosanne-rosanna-dana used to say on Saturday Night Live.....
"Nevermind"......



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Old 10-30-2005, 10:20 AM
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Steffo
I have broadband wanadoo also but 512kbps would that be ok for an ordinary 3
bedroom house.
cheers
Mark

"Steffo" <steffo@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:43640b46_2@news.bluewin.ch...
> Hi Mark.
>
> I'm using a wireless power line device during my summer holidays in
> France: it's working very well if you have a powerful broadband
> connection.
> I have 8 mega DSL provided by Wanadoo, it goes into my router and from
> there into a power adapter plugged in an outlet.
> Any power outlet in the house now have broadband and you can connect your
> PC to it with another adapter.
> Also, you can connect a special wireless device in the plug with a range
> of 200 meters, ideal to cover a garden with pool.
> The great thing about a powerline network is you can have a connection
> through any electrical plug and you don't need to run phone lines through
> your house, especially if it's quite large with several floors and an
> outdoor area.
> Go for it if you have it where you are living!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steffo
>
>
> MARK wrote:
>> Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you know
>> what they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
>> Regards
>> Mark

>
>




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Old 10-30-2005, 10:39 AM
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MARK wrote:

> Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you know what
> they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
> Regards
> Mark

I have had all manner of trouble with them. I live in a rural area and
there are some villages where the quality of the power supply is such that
they simply are useless. In other areas they work OK, but are still more
prone to problems that I like.

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Old 10-30-2005, 10:45 AM
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> I have had all manner of trouble with them. I live in a rural area and
> there are some villages where the quality of the power supply is such that
> they simply are useless. In other areas they work OK, but are still more
> prone to problems that I like.


Can you elaborate? What problems with the power supply are you having
that would cause a problem for a local carrier on your house wiring?

David.

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Old 10-30-2005, 11:47 AM
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In my opinion, you should double that up if you have only 2 computers
connected, but go even higher if you have more.
Remember that the wired PCs will split your broadband but wireless devices
will not, so prefer a wireless connection if your computers have the wi-fi
tools.
I'm pretty sure you can cover the whole house you have with only one
wireless device, but I'm wondering why you don't get the livebox from
Wanadoo: it might be cheaper after all.
In any case, wire-connect your desktop to the router (or livebox) and have
the printer connected to that PC, then set up the home network sharing
wirelessly the printer with the laptops: you don't need to run any
additional phone lines.
The LiveBox also comes with a phone connected to it where you can make VoIP
calls.
I'm using the powerline network in the south of France because the old villa
is huge (only 2 phone plugs in 4 floors, 25 bedrooms and the outdoors area)
and the best solution is having the connection using the electricity to go
all over and plug in a wireless device to cover that area you need.
With 8 mega ADSL, 2 PCs, 4 laptops (wireless), I'm getting about 2.4 mega in
each connection, so there's some loss of bandwidth somewhere along the line.
At home in Switzerland, I have a house similar to yours and I'm using a
classic 2 mega ADSL connection with a wi-fi modem-router with 1 PC
wire-connected to it and 2 wi-fi laptops around the house: in each terminal,
I'm getting 1.2 / 1.6 mega and I think there's less loss of bandwidth than
the powerline set up and the whole system is cheaper than the powerline one.


MARK wrote:
> Steffo
> I have broadband wanadoo also but 512kbps would that be OK for an
> ordinary 3 bedroom house.
> cheers
> Mark
>
> "Steffo" <steffo@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:43640b46_2@news.bluewin.ch...
>> Hi Mark.
>>
>> I'm using a wireless power line device during my summer holidays in
>> France: it's working very well if you have a powerful broadband
>> connection.
>> I have 8 mega DSL provided by Wanadoo, it goes into my router and
>> from there into a power adapter plugged in an outlet.
>> Any power outlet in the house now have broadband and you can connect
>> your PC to it with another adapter.
>> Also, you can connect a special wireless device in the plug with a
>> range of 200 meters, ideal to cover a garden with pool.
>> The great thing about a powerline network is you can have a
>> connection through any electrical plug and you don't need to run
>> phone lines through your house, especially if it's quite large with
>> several floors and an outdoor area.
>> Go for it if you have it where you are living!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steffo
>>
>>
>> MARK wrote:
>>> Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you
>>> know what they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
>>> Regards
>>> Mark




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Old 10-30-2005, 12:17 PM
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David Taylor wrote:

>> I have had all manner of trouble with them. I live in a rural area and
>> there are some villages where the quality of the power supply is such
>> that
>> they simply are useless. In other areas they work OK, but are still more
>> prone to problems that I like.

>
> Can you elaborate? What problems with the power supply are you having
> that would cause a problem for a local carrier on your house wiring?
>
> David.

I have no idea, but I found that identical units (often the same units)
worked in some villages, or rather on some supply lines, but not on others.
I never did get to the bottom of it but I can only assume it is the supply
(or something noisy powered from the same substation) as moving the same
powerline units to another village (or in one case the other end of the
same village which was fed from the other direction) and the behaviour
of the units changed totally. The usual symptom was that the units would
work fine for a few seconds, then fail for a few, and repeat for ever.

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Old 10-30-2005, 02:49 PM
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"Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> MARK wrote:
>> Has anybody heard of these powerline network adapters and do you know
>> what they are like compared to wireless routers and cards
>> Regards
>> Mark

>
> Been using them for years, and they work absolutely great. Specially in
> places that have power, but you'd have to rip out metal/walls for network
> cable (like boats RV's and planes). Unfortunatly, they usually only go to
> around 14Mb (faster than B but slower than G)


In another thread David Taylor referred me (so I don't claim any credit) to
these sites:
http://www.thecomputersurgery.co.uk/
http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm
which both have powerline products claimed to work at 85Mbps. The cheaper
product is £36 + VAT per unit.

Chris R



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Old 10-31-2005, 06:36 PM
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In <MPG.1dce949259e91f5f989ef2@news.cable.ntlworld.co m> on Sun, 30 Oct 2005
08:26:41 GMT, David Taylor <djtaylor@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>> This is the USA.. It's imperitive that you waste
>> thousands of dollars on something you don't need but is cheap/easy/works
>> great in most situations.. our economy depends on people spending large

>
>OP is in the UK, he can't spend thousands of dollars, they won't be
>accepted in the shops!
>
>:)


Touche, although there are many places in the UK that will happily take US
dollars.

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Old 11-01-2005, 09:34 AM
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> Touche, although there are many places in the UK that will happily take US
> dollars.


Yep, Banks, Bureau de Change, British regsistered aircraft and possibly
a very few shops in airports.

Where else did you have in mind?! There are a tiny number of very large
shops in the shopping districts in London that *might* just about take
the Euro but the US dollar? Not many that I can think of, where were
you thinking of?

David.

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Old 11-01-2005, 02:46 PM
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In <MPG.1dd147c8c9421388989ef6@news.cable.ntlworld.co m> on Tue, 01 Nov 2005
09:34:31 GMT, David Taylor <djtaylor@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>> Touche, although there are many places in the UK that will happily take US
>> dollars.

>
>Yep, Banks, Bureau de Change, British regsistered aircraft and possibly
>a very few shops in airports.
>
>Where else did you have in mind?! There are a tiny number of very large
>shops in the shopping districts in London that *might* just about take
>the Euro but the US dollar? Not many that I can think of, where were
>you thinking of?


I've had no problem using US dollars at many hotels and shops in London.

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Old 11-01-2005, 04:28 PM
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> I've had no problem using US dollars at many hotels and shops in London.

Which shops? Other than say Harrods? :)

A hotel isn't a shop, doesn't count. ;)

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Old 11-01-2005, 09:36 PM
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In <MPG.1dd1a8c8fe62ca52989efa@news.cable.ntlworld.co m> on Tue, 01 Nov 2005
16:28:40 GMT, David Taylor <djtaylor@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>> I've had no problem using US dollars at many hotels and shops in London.

>
>Which shops? Other than say Harrods? :)
>
>A hotel isn't a shop, doesn't count. ;)


Harrods was one, but only one. Others I do not remember them by name. My
non-Harrods purchases included clothing, dinnerware, crystal, and
miscellaneous gifts.

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