I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from outside my
LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an account with
dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does accommodate DDNS and
I've set that up but I don't know what to do next. I know this is a
wireless group but part of my solution will involve wireless networking.
Can someone point me to a tutorial or procedure to set up my home network
and laptop to allow printing remotely?
Thank you.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
<cLsQk.62098$rD2.22220@bignews4.bellsouth.net>:
>I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from outside my
>LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an account with
>dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does accommodate DDNS and
>I've set that up but I don't know what to do next. I know this is a
>wireless group but part of my solution will involve wireless networking.
>Can someone point me to a tutorial or procedure to set up my home network
>and laptop to allow printing remotely?
As I'm sure you know, this questions about remote printing has nothing
to do with wireless networking.
Have you tried searching both the Web and Groups with Google?
e.g.,
<http://www.google.com/search?q=remote-printing+home+lan+dynamic-IP>
<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=remote-printing%20home%20lan%20dynamic-IP>
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Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
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John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
> <cLsQk.62098$rD2.22220@bignews4.bellsouth.net>:
>
>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>> remotely?
>
> As I'm sure you know, this questions about remote printing has nothing
> to do with wireless networking.
>
> Have you tried searching both the Web and Groups with Google?
Don't be a fruit loop. Of course I've searched google. Thanks.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:52:23 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
<0DuQk.84712$XB4.9732@bignews9.bellsouth.net>:
>John Navas wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
>> <cLsQk.62098$rD2.22220@bignews4.bellsouth.net>:
>>
>>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>>> remotely?
>>
>> As I'm sure you know, this questions about remote printing has nothing
>> to do with wireless networking.
>>
>> Have you tried searching both the Web and Groups with Google?
>
>Don't be a fruit loop.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from outside my
>LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an account with
>dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does accommodate DDNS and
>I've set that up but I don't know what to do next. I know this is a
>wireless group but part of my solution will involve wireless networking.
>Can someone point me to a tutorial or procedure to set up my home network
>and laptop to allow printing remotely?
Read about Internet Printing Protocol (IPP):
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol>
Presumably, your unspecified model router, unspecified printers, and
unspecified operating systems all support IPP.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>> remotely?
>
> Read about Internet Printing Protocol (IPP):
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol>
> Presumably, your unspecified model router, unspecified printers, and
> unspecified operating systems all support IPP.
Yes. I had looked at IPP via the wikipedia link. I couldn't figure out how
to implement that protocol with my XP Media and Vista lap tops, printing to
my HP 2600N laser and C7280 inkjet printers when away from my home network
which uses a Zyxel X550 router to facilitate the DSL signal from my ISP.
Thanks and I'll look more into IPP but I get the feeling that its something
the OS uses when printing remotely all on its own and not something I
optionally invoke as part of the solution I'm looking to create. Another
problem I have is testing. I wonder if there is a way to test the remote
printing capabilities aside from packing my laptop and driving to Starbucks
each time I want to try it out.
Trespasser wrote:
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:ds35h4d3jsdkbps53qn842md7253e0mvq4@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:52:23 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
>> <0DuQk.84712$XB4.9732@bignews9.bellsouth.net>:
>>
>>> John Navas wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
>>>> <cLsQk.62098$rD2.22220@bignews4.bellsouth.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>>>>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>>>>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>>>>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>>>>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution
>>>>> will involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a
>>>>> tutorial or procedure to set up my home network and laptop to
>>>>> allow printing remotely?
>>>>
> One solution could be to set up vpn access to your lan, set up the
> printer accross the vpn link. When your out connect to the net, make
> the link via vpn to your network, then print.
>
> If your running xp follow the instructios to set up vpn
Thanks. Yes, I'm looking into VPN and that seems to be the only way to set
this up. What ports do I open up to print to my HP laserjet printer
remotely? I'll want this to work with XP Media and Vista laptops I
currently own. One problem is testing. Is there a way to test out a VPN
while within the very network I want to communicate remotely with? While
I'm still fumbling around with this I don't want to have to drive to
Starbucks or some other wifi hotspot every time to log into another network
just to find that what I've done so far is not working :)
jch wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>>> remotely?
>>
>> Read about Internet Printing Protocol (IPP):
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol>
>> Presumably, your unspecified model router, unspecified printers, and
>> unspecified operating systems all support IPP.
>
> Yes. I had looked at IPP via the wikipedia link. I couldn't figure
> out how to implement that protocol with my XP Media and Vista lap
> tops, printing to my HP 2600N laser and C7280 inkjet printers when
> away from my home network which uses a Zyxel X550 router to
> facilitate the DSL signal from my ISP. Thanks and I'll look more into
> IPP but I get the feeling that its something the OS uses when
> printing remotely all on its own and not something I optionally
> invoke as part of the solution I'm looking to create. Another
> problem I have is testing. I wonder if there is a way to test the
> remote printing capabilities aside from packing my laptop and driving
> to Starbucks each time I want to try it out.
Well.... I was wrong above. I'm learning more about IPP and certainly it is
something I as a user would invoke and is a different solution all together
than VPN for remote printing. I'll pursue both options; IPP and VPN. At
least for me it would be convenient to print remotely to my home printers
and I believe that through either IPP or VPN I should be able to do this.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from outside my
>LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an account with
>dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does accommodate DDNS and
>I've set that up but I don't know what to do next. I know this is a
>wireless group but part of my solution will involve wireless networking.
>Can someone point me to a tutorial or procedure to set up my home network
>and laptop to allow printing remotely?
>Thank you.
>
two easy ways to set up remote printing would be the following:
remote desktop to the home printer and then print to the printer at
the remote site. (similar to vpn)
print all your documents to a local PDF printer on the local machine
and then print them out on the printer when your connected to the home
network,
jh wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>> As I'm sure you know, this questions about remote printing has nothing
>> to do with wireless networking.
>>
>> Have you tried searching both the Web and Groups with Google?
>
> Don't be a fruit loop. Of course I've searched google. Thanks.
As I'm sure you realise, your question isn't topical here. Just because
you couldn't get an answer from Google doesn't mean its suddenly
magically topical.
I'd suggest searching google more thoroughly (I found stuff), and
finding a better group to ask in.
Mark McIntyre wrote:
> Trespasser wrote:
>> The vpn port is 1723.
>
> Thats /a/ VPN port but not THE port.
>
> The partial answers you're getting go a long way to explaining why you
> should ask in a group where this is topical.
>
> By the way, setting up a VPN is massive overkill.
If you have insight into printing remotely I'd appreciate hearing it. And
if you know of a better group to ask in then please say what that is.
Thanks.
Bob Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>> remotely?
>> Thank you.
>>
>
>
> two easy ways to set up remote printing would be the following:
>
> remote desktop to the home printer and then print to the printer at
> the remote site. (similar to vpn)
Thanks. It's that nasty 'remote desktop to the home printer' part that I'm
having trouble figuring out. As somone else suggested, I'm lookin in to IPP
but not sure if that is going to work for me. Do you have something set up
to print remotely? If so, how have you accomplished this?
>
> print all your documents to a local PDF printer on the local machine
> and then print them out on the printer when your connected to the home
> network,
Thanks and yes I thought about this and similar such options but I really
should be able to print real-time over the internet.
>
> just some easy thoughts,
>
>
> Bob Smith
> Robert Smith Consulting
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:09:28 -0500, "jch" <jch@control.com> wrote:
>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>>> remotely?
>>
>> Read about Internet Printing Protocol (IPP):
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol>
>> Presumably, your unspecified model router, unspecified printers, and
>> unspecified operating systems all support IPP.
>Yes. I had looked at IPP via the wikipedia link. I couldn't figure out how
>to implement that protocol with my XP Media and Vista lap tops,
Both of those have IPP printing clients. Get it working first on your
local LAN. Then, setup port forwarding in your Zyxel router for
TCP port 631
and IPP should work through the router. However, get it working on
your LAN first.
>printing to
>my HP 2600N laser
That's a Jetdirect network interface. Point your web browser to the
HP 2600N IP address and enable IPP.
I found this for a Brother printer. It looks much simpler than the HP
explanation:
<http://www.brother.com/E-ftp/info/ins/ipp_w2kF.pdf>
It's for W2K but should be applicable to XP. Vista is its own curse
so you're on your own with that.
>and C7280 inkjet printers when away from my home network
That will be more difficult. That's a USB interface which means you
unspecified model computer and either XP or Vista will need to support
the server part of IPP. I know that the various Windoze servers
(2000, 2003) support IPP server printing, but I'm not so sure about
the various Windoze desktops. I'm too lazy too search the MS web pile
for details. Let me know if you can't find anything.
>which uses a Zyxel X550 router to facilitate the DSL signal from my ISP.
Port forward port TCP port 631.
>Thanks and I'll look more into IPP but I get the feeling that its something
>the OS uses when printing remotely all on its own and not something I
>optionally invoke as part of the solution I'm looking to create.
Huh? Never mind. Don't explain.
>Another
>problem I have is testing.
Plug, configure, print, swear, repeat.
I don't see the problem.
>I wonder if there is a way to test the remote
>printing capabilities aside from packing my laptop and driving to Starbucks
>each time I want to try it out.
Yes, when you configure your IP address for IPP printer on the
clients, first use the local LAN IP for the 2600N printer. That will
be the local LAN test.
Then, configure another printer using the IP address that your ISP
assigns. That may change, but it only has to stay put long enough to
conduct the test. You can also use your dynamic DNS assigned IP
address. Some routers won't allow you to do that, but I think the
Zyxel might:
<http://us.zyxel.com/web/product_family_detail.php?PC1indexflag=20040520161 256&CategoryGroupNo=PDCA2007051>
Otherwise, break into the neighbors wireless LAN or have a double
mocha latte.
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:51:11 +0000, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@TROUSERSspamcop.net> wrote:
>By the way, setting up a VPN is massive overkill.
It would be a good solution, but only if his Zyxel x550 router
supported a VPN termination (not just VPN pass through). It doesn't:
<http://us.zyxel.com/web/product_family_detail.php?PC1indexflag=20040520161 256&CategoryGroupNo=PDCA2007051>
More than you ever wanted to know about VPN's:
<http://www.vpnlabs.com>
"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:ds35h4d3jsdkbps53qn842md7253e0mvq4@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:52:23 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
> <0DuQk.84712$XB4.9732@bignews9.bellsouth.net>:
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote in
>>> <cLsQk.62098$rD2.22220@bignews4.bellsouth.net>:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>>>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>>>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>>>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>>>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>>>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>>>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>>>> remotely?
>>>
>>> As I'm sure you know, this questions about remote printing has nothing
>>> to do with wireless networking.
>>>
>>> Have you tried searching both the Web and Groups with Google?
>>
>>Don't be a fruit loop.
>
> You took the words right out of my mouth.
>
>>Of course I've searched google.
>
> You must not have tried very hard.
>
> Good luck.
>
#########
One solution could be to set up vpn access to your lan, set up the printer
accross the vpn link. When your out connect to the net, make the link via vpn
to your network, then print.
If your running xp follow the instructios to set up vpn
--
Regards
Trespasser
----------------------------
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes two or three gang up on me.
I'm not paranoid, I know your watching me. (o-o)
Show me a wireless network, I'll show you free broadband.
So you think this sigantures bad ? You should see my handwriting
----------------------------
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:53:46 -0500, "jch" <jch@control.com> wrote:
>Bob Smith wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:38:30 -0500, "jh" <jh@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to be able to print to my home networked printers from
>>> outside my LAN. I have a dynamic IP from my ISP and I've made an
>>> account with dyndns.org to facilitate a static IP. My router does
>>> accommodate DDNS and I've set that up but I don't know what to do
>>> next. I know this is a wireless group but part of my solution will
>>> involve wireless networking. Can someone point me to a tutorial or
>>> procedure to set up my home network and laptop to allow printing
>>> remotely?
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>>
>> two easy ways to set up remote printing would be the following:
>>
>> remote desktop to the home printer and then print to the printer at
>> the remote site. (similar to vpn)
>
>Thanks. It's that nasty 'remote desktop to the home printer' part that I'm
>having trouble figuring out. As somone else suggested, I'm lookin in to IPP
>but not sure if that is going to work for me. Do you have something set up
>to print remotely? If so, how have you accomplished this?
>
>>
>> print all your documents to a local PDF printer on the local machine
>> and then print them out on the printer when your connected to the home
>> network,
>
>Thanks and yes I thought about this and similar such options but I really
>should be able to print real-time over the internet.
>
>>
>> just some easy thoughts,
>>
>>
>> Bob Smith
>> Robert Smith Consulting
>
To use remote desktop you would have to have WinXP pro at the remote
location, or a hacked copy of winXP home. Few people realize that all
versions of XP had at one time 6 concurrent RDT connections available,
but before it was released winXP home had RDT removed . RDT can be
done real easy if you know what the IP address of the home computer
is.
You enable RDT on the home computer, open port 3389 in your router and
be sure that you have the home printer installed on both computers.
You connect to your home computer from the computer in your control
with the RDT client and when you print you be sure you print to the
remote printer from within the file->print setup->choose a printer.
It's that easy. I've got quite a few clients using RDT from home to
the office.
The other easy way if you don't need the printed matter to show up at
home is just use adobe pdf. I probably print 60-70% of the items I
print locally to pdf just to save paper and it's so easy to save a pdf
to a file and then keep them organized for later printing and
refrerence. I've been doing this since acrobat 5. I really like the
new features of Acrobat 9 extended. It's real easy to type on the
saved pdf and highlite, etc. It's just the cost of adobe acrobat
that stops people from doing this.
You need to set your printer as a shared printer on one of your pc's, create a
'dail-in' connection (use the wizard in xp) and create another account for
yourself that is allowed vpn access on the same machine. The reason for doing
this is that should your connection get compromised you are not going to give
anyone full access to your own account.
On the mobile machine you will be taking with you (presumably laptop)..... you
should now create a vpn network connection that you can connect to. Once
connected, use the add printer wizard or browse for a printer on your new vpn
connection.
Its fairly simple to do, but I cant help with vista ....... I dont use vista
(imho its shite)
--
Regards
Trespasser
----------------------------
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes two or three gang up on me.
I'm not paranoid, I know your watching me. (o-o)
Show me a wireless network, I'll show you free broadband.
So you think this sigantures bad ? You should see my handwriting
----------------------------
jch wrote:
> If you have insight into printing remotely I'd appreciate hearing it.
Even if I did, it wouldn't be topical here and I find that answering
offtopic questions simply encourages people to ask more of 'em.
> And if you know of a better group to ask in then please say what that is.
> Thanks.
No idea I'm afraid, or I'd have pointed you at it. One of the unix or
windows groups most likely.
Either that or STFW. I did, and found about a dozen highly relevant
links. I should point out that if you're doing it without a router and a
printserver then you're simply making work for yourself. IPP compatible
printservers are pretty cheap (mine was about £30) and pretty much any
retail router can do port forwarding.
I should also say that if you find the instructions on the web too
complex to follow, then this probably isn't something you should be
trying. A certain level of technical expertise is necessary.
> Both of those have IPP printing clients. Get it working first on your
> local LAN. Then, setup port forwarding in your Zyxel router for TCP port
> 631
> and IPP should work through the router. However, get it working on
> your LAN first.
>
>> printing to my HP 2600N laser
>
> That's a Jetdirect network interface. Point your web browser to the
> HP 2600N IP address and enable IPP.
Actually the 2600N doesn't have a JetDirect interface and it turns out it's
also not compatible with IPP according to an HP page I found. I guess I'm
out of luck going about IPP with this printer.
Also, I tried printing to it using a Standard TCP/IP port (using the
printers' internal IP address 192.168.10.90) per the print/fax setup
interface in XP. The 2600N would only print using the HP Standard TCP/IP
port. My C7280 printer would print just find using a Standard TCP/IP port
(192.168.10.91) setup via the same interface and I believe the C7280 also is
compatible with IPP.
> I found this for a Brother printer. It looks much simpler than the HP
> explanation:
> <http://www.brother.com/E-ftp/info/ins/ipp_w2kF.pdf>
> It's for W2K but should be applicable to XP. Vista is its own curse
> so you're on your own with that.
Thanks. I read the paper and it was informative.
>
>> and C7280 inkjet printers when away from my home network
>
> That will be more difficult. That's a USB interface which means you
> unspecified model computer and either XP or Vista will need to support
> the server part of IPP. I know that the various Windoze servers
> (2000, 2003) support IPP server printing, but I'm not so sure about
> the various Windoze desktops. I'm too lazy too search the MS web pile
> for details. Let me know if you can't find anything.
Actually the C7280 has an ethernet interface and wifi as well (which I'm not
using). If it does have a USB interface and I'm not using it either.
Both my HP 2600N and the HP C7280 are plugged directly into my Zyxel X550
router.
>> I wonder if there is a way to test the remote
>> printing capabilities aside from packing my laptop and driving to
>> Starbucks each time I want to try it out.
>
> Yes, when you configure your IP address for IPP printer on the
> clients, first use the local LAN IP for the 2600N printer. That will
> be the local LAN test.
>
> Then, configure another printer using the IP address that your ISP
> assigns. That may change, but it only has to stay put long enough to
> conduct the test. You can also use your dynamic DNS assigned IP
> address. Some routers won't allow you to do that, but I think the
> Zyxel might:
> http://us.zyxel.com/web/product_fami...No=PDCA2007051
I've been trying to play around with dynamic DNS. I've enabled my router to
be remotely configurable and it opened port 8080 to facilitate this. As a
test I thought I'd be able to plug in mydomain.dyndns.org:8080/192.168.x.x
in the browser and be able to access the router. Doing so at least from
within my LAN doesn't work. I was hoping there might be some web site to
allow remote testing such as this (without having to physically go remote).
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:28:02 -0500, "jch" <jch@nospam.com> wrote:
>Actually the 2600N doesn't have a JetDirect interface and it turns out it's
>also not compatible with IPP according to an HP page I found.
Oops. I never did find a page that indicated if it did IPP or not, so
I guessed. Sorry.
>Both my HP 2600N and the HP C7280 are plugged directly into my Zyxel X550
>router.
Ok. Got it.
Without IPP support in the 2600N, it's not going to work. That leaves
setting up a VPN to your network. Such VPN's are usually terminated
in the router (as in a VPN router) but can also be terminated in a
server operating system.
>I've been trying to play around with dynamic DNS. I've enabled my router to
>be remotely configurable and it opened port 8080 to facilitate this.
Nope. If you configure remote admin on port 8080 (the default) you
dod NOT need to port forward or "open" port 8080. Remote admin simply
recognizes connections to port 8080 on the WAN (internet) interface.
If you also redirect or "open" port 8080, it will send those packets
to whatever LAN IP address you have it configured. That's not what
you want.
>As a
>test I thought I'd be able to plug in mydomain.dyndns.org:8080/192.168.x.x
>in the browser and be able to access the router.
Nope. From the internet, you should be able to use:
<https://your_sub_domain_name.dyndns.org:8080>
which will get you to the remote admin web server in the Zyxel. For
example, here's mine:
<https://home.learnbydestroying.com:8080>
for DD-WRT.
I have no idea what you're trying to do with the 192.168.x.x at the
end, after the port number.
>Doing so at least from
>within my LAN doesn't work. I was hoping there might be some web site to
>allow remote testing such as this (without having to physically go remote).
I just went to my own router using:
<https://home.learnbydestroying.com:8080>
<https://63.249.85.127:8080>
Works fine. No clue how it will work with your Zyxel. It's tricky
connecting to the WAN interface on your own router, but it does work
on some routers. Try both http:// and https:// to be sure.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:28:02 -0500, "jch" <jch@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually the 2600N doesn't have a JetDirect interface and it turns
>> out it's also not compatible with IPP according to an HP page I
>> found.
>
> Oops. I never did find a page that indicated if it did IPP or not, so
> I guessed. Sorry.
>
>> Both my HP 2600N and the HP C7280 are plugged directly into my Zyxel
>> X550 router.
>
> Ok. Got it.
>
> Without IPP support in the 2600N, it's not going to work. That leaves
> setting up a VPN to your network. Such VPN's are usually terminated
> in the router (as in a VPN router) but can also be terminated in a
> server operating system.
I'm sure you're right. I'll start looking next at VPN as a means to print
remotely.
>> I've been trying to play around with dynamic DNS. I've enabled my
>> router to be remotely configurable and it opened port 8080 to
>> facilitate this.
>
> Nope. If you configure remote admin on port 8080 (the default) you
> dod NOT need to port forward or "open" port 8080. Remote admin simply
> recognizes connections to port 8080 on the WAN (internet) interface.
> If you also redirect or "open" port 8080, it will send those packets
> to whatever LAN IP address you have it configured. That's not what
> you want.
Right. I didn't mean to say that I'd opened 8080. I was trying to say that
port 8080 was designated by the router automatically for remote access.
>> As a
>> test I thought I'd be able to plug in
>> mydomain.dyndns.org:8080/192.168.x.x in the browser and be able to
>> access the router.
>
> Nope. From the internet, you should be able to use:
> <https://your_sub_domain_name.dyndns.org:8080>
> which will get you to the remote admin web server in the Zyxel. For
> example, here's mine:
> <https://home.learnbydestroying.com:8080>
> for DD-WRT.
>
>> Doing so at least from within my LAN doesn't work. I was hoping there
>> might be some web
>> site to allow remote testing such as this (without having to physically
>> go remote).
>
> I just went to my own router using:
> <https://home.learnbydestroying.com:8080>
> https://63.249.85.127:8080
Both work fine. However I can't get this to work for my own router from
within my own LAN probably due, as you suspect, to my router not allowing a
connection to the WAN from within its own LAN. Tomorrow I'll try it again.
Once I have confidence my dyndns.org solution works I can look at VPN.
Thanks by the way for sharing your remote access address. That was a good
experiment.
> Works fine. No clue how it will work with your Zyxel. It's tricky
> connecting to the WAN interface on your own router, but it does work
> on some routers. Try both http:// and https:// to be sure.
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:04:22 -0500, "jch" <jch@nospam.com> wrote:
>I'm sure you're right. I'll start looking next at VPN as a means to print
>remotely.
Maybe I can redeem myself for my previous screwup. You're missing on
important part of the VPN. You need to have a VPN server to terminate
the connection. That would normally be in the router. Your Zyxel is
a good router, but this one isn't going to do it. However, let's
pretend that you spend the dollars and buy a VPN router.
There are several types of VPN's. The IPSec flavor is rather
complicated, but generally considered secure. There is also an SSL
based VPN, such as OpenVPN.
Then there's PPTP which is directly supported by Windoze. DD-WRT
firmware supports PPTP server. I have a PPTP VPN setup between my
palatial office and my house. I can see my home and office printers
and servers from either location.
When you connect to a VPN server, the VPN server delivers a 2nd IP
address to your client computer. For this to work, the remote network
must use a different Class C network than the client network.
Therefore, my office LAN uses 192.168.111.xxx while my home network
using 192.168.1.xxx.
For example, I just disconnected the router to router VPN connection,
and connected to my office VPN server (running DD-WRT) from my W2K
desktop. I get:
C:\>ipconfig
Windows 2000 IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.11
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
The 192.168.1.11 is the IP address of my desktop at home.
The 192.168.111.141 is the 2nd IP address that the VPN server assigned
to my desktop. Note that there is only one Gateway IP address. You
can have either end act as the gateway to the internet, but not both.
I don't want to post the results, but I can ping and "locate" all the
machines in the office (that are currently turned on). From home, it
looks like one big network.
If I wanted to print something, my HP LaserJunk 5m printer is at
192.168.111.85. All I need to do is setup either Jetdirect or port
9100 raw printing to this IP address, on my home machine, and I have
remote printing. In effect, my home machine is now on both the
192.168.1.xxx home network, and the 192.168.111.xxx office network. No
extra software is required.
I suggest you look into a router that supports DD-WRT firmware:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices>
>Right. I didn't mean to say that I'd opened 8080. I was trying to say that
>port 8080 was designated by the router automatically for remote access.
Ok. It should work (famous last assumptions).
>Both work fine. However I can't get this to work for my own router from
>within my own LAN probably due, as you suspect, to my router not allowing a
>connection to the WAN from within its own LAN. Tomorrow I'll try it again.
Yep. That's probably the problem. Some work, some don't. Have
someone else try it from the internet just to be sure. I usually have
a spare dialup account for such ocassions. Try both http and https.
>Once I have confidence my dyndns.org solution works I can look at VPN.
>Thanks by the way for sharing your remote access address. That was a good
>experiment.
Sure. DD-WRT firmware has a publicly accessible splash page with
status info. However, you need a password to dig deeper.
As for dyndns.com, I've been using their services for many years. With
the exception of a few DoS attacks, their service is quite reliable.
However, I don't trust all the router based dyndns clients. See list
of supported and tested clients at:
<http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/hardware/>
I think I have about 25 assorted entries in the sub-domain table,
mostly weather stations. What really bothers me is that each one uses
the same login and password. If I ever have to change the password,
I'll have to change all 25 routers, many of which do not have remote
access.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:04:22 -0500, "jch" <jch@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure you're right. I'll start looking next at VPN as a means to print
>> remotely.
>
> Maybe I can redeem myself for my previous screwup. You're missing on
> important part of the VPN. You need to have a VPN server to terminate
> the connection. That would normally be in the router. Your Zyxel is
> a good router, but this one isn't going to do it. However, let's
> pretend that you spend the dollars and buy a VPN router.
If you're going to do that, why not just ditch the VPN idea and get an
IPP-capable ethernet printserver. They cost under £50.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:04:22 -0500, "jch" <jch@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> You're missing on
> important part of the VPN. You need to have a VPN server to terminate
> the connection. That would normally be in the router. Your Zyxel is
> a good router, but this one isn't going to do it. However, let's
> pretend that you spend the dollars and buy a VPN router.
My Zyxel router apparently only supports VPN pass through. I do have a
WRT54G with DDWRT but I'm using it as a wireless bridge to connect my DVR
and Xbox to the network. It's a v5.1 and can only run the DDWRT micro code.
VPN pass through for it as well.
It isn't worth it for me to have to buy a new router to get VPN. I
appreciate your's and other contructive responses here. Thanks.
> It isn't worth it for me to have to buy a new router to get VPN. I
> appreciate your's and other contructive responses here. Thanks.
That's a shame. I've been using my WRT54G for this purpose for several
years now. Works great. Make a VPN connection back to the house and print
away! No need to use anything different, driver-wise for the printer.
Given how cheap the routers are, and that DD-WRT is free, it's worth the
small price to pay for the functionality.
Bill Kearney wrote:
>> It isn't worth it for me to have to buy a new router to get VPN. I
>> appreciate your's and other contructive responses here. Thanks.
>
> That's a shame. I've been using my WRT54G for this purpose for
> several years now. Works great. Make a VPN connection back to the
> house and print away! No need to use anything different, driver-wise
> for the printer. Given how cheap the routers are, and that DD-WRT is
> free, it's worth the small price to pay for the functionality.
>
> -Bill Kearney
Thanks Bill but right now I've got a Zyxel router I'm using as the
router/gateway and a Linksys WRT54G (w/DD-WRT) I'm using as a wireless
bridge to connect my DVR and Xbox to the network. The WRT54G is a v5.1 and
as such only functions with the micro version of DD-WRT which does not
provide true VPN functionality but only VPN pass through. I agree that
Linksys routers are cheap but I don't want to go out and purchase a 3rd unit
to replace to other units which otherwise function. I was hoping for a
solution with my current equipment.
You make a great point though that in the future should I decide to replace
the Zyxel X550, a new Linksys WRT54G would fit the bill very well. It's a
shame the Zyxel X550, a very good home router, is not, as far as I can tell,
compatible with free 3rd party firmware.
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