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Old 11-04-2007, 03:21 PM
NotMe
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Default Problem with a cable modem


Cable company replaced our modem with a AMBIT Model U10C018

We have two Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 (Standard OEM software) and a Linksys
WRT54GV5 (Standard OEM Software)

All were individually working( one on line the rest spares) with the
previous cable modem (Motorola S5100). None work with the current modem.

We have all the usual idiot lights working but no communication. buffalo
software indicates that it sees the AMBIT modem but is unable to talk to the
AMBIT modem.

Cable support has no clue (they tried but have limited data on the AMBIT)
Ambit support will not talk to the end user.

Cable company says the soonest I can get a replacement modem is sometime
next week.

BTW both Buffalo units and the Linksys work at other locations but different
cable modems.

We have web access but only with the CAT5 connected to the cable modem one
box at a time so we're not dead with regards to internet access but having
to wait in line is a bit of a problem. (Not unlike bath room access when
the grand daughters & friends are visiting.)

The issue is not critical but I would like to know what the problem and
potential solution might be.




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Old 11-04-2007, 03:44 PM
Peter Pan
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Default Re: Problem with a cable modem

NotMe wrote:
> Cable company replaced our modem with a AMBIT Model U10C018
>
> We have two Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 (Standard OEM software) and a Linksys
> WRT54GV5 (Standard OEM Software)
>
> All were individually working( one on line the rest spares) with the
> previous cable modem (Motorola S5100). None work with the current
> modem.
>
> We have all the usual idiot lights working but no communication.
> buffalo software indicates that it sees the AMBIT modem but is unable
> to talk to the AMBIT modem.
>
> Cable support has no clue (they tried but have limited data on the
> AMBIT) Ambit support will not talk to the end user.
>
> Cable company says the soonest I can get a replacement modem is
> sometime next week.
>
> BTW both Buffalo units and the Linksys work at other locations but
> different cable modems.
>
> We have web access but only with the CAT5 connected to the cable
> modem one box at a time so we're not dead with regards to internet
> access but having to wait in line is a bit of a problem. (Not unlike
> bath room access when the grand daughters & friends are visiting.)
>
> The issue is not critical but I would like to know what the problem
> and potential solution might be.


Just out of curiosity, what model ambit do you have?
at http://www.ambitbroadband.com/NA/product.html they have a lot of
different models, and some have built in wireless and/or routers.. can't
offer any suggestions without knowing what you have... :)



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Old 11-04-2007, 05:11 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: Problem with a cable modem

"NotMe" <me@privacy.net> hath wroth:

>Cable company replaced our modem with a AMBIT Model U10C018


<http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp/contentredirect.asp?sprt_cid=74fc51f6-2b3c-4a96-a6b7-90e4e321738a>

>We have two Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 (Standard OEM software) and a Linksys
>WRT54GV5 (Standard OEM Software)


Are these operating as routers or access points? Specifically, do you
have the CAT5 cable to the modem connected to the 4 LAN ports on the
back of these boxes, or to the single WAN(internet) port? Is there a
hub or ethernet switch you didn't mention?

>All were individually working( one on line the rest spares) with the
>previous cable modem (Motorola S5100). None work with the current modem.


The Ambit looks like an almost exact replacement for the S5100. Unless
you have some kind of MAC address authentication game thanks to your
unspecified cable provider, it should work without any changes.

In order to figure out what to do, I need some clue as to how they
were setup. Specifically, I need the IP layout, which is probably the
culprit. Both your old S5100 and new Ambit are modems and do not have
built in NAT. The responsibility for obtaining an IP address is in
the router(s). However, you cannot have BOTH routers getting
individual IP's from your unspecified cable provider at the same time
unless you made arrangments to do so with the cable provider. I can
make an astute guess as to how it was setup if you would disclose how
you have the two routers wired to the modem.

>We have all the usual idiot lights working but no communication. buffalo
>software indicates that it sees the AMBIT modem but is unable to talk to the
>AMBIT modem.


That means the CAT5 cable connecting the two is working, but the IP
addresses are probably wrong.

>Cable support has no clue (they tried but have limited data on the AMBIT)
>Ambit support will not talk to the end user.


Did your unspecified evil cable company just mail you the modem or did
an installer deliver and install it? If the latter, they usually try
it before leaving. Let's do some testing.
1. Turn off everything except the modem and one laptop.
2. Run a CAT5 cable between the PC ethernet port and the modem.
<http://support.cox.com/sdccommon/asp/contentredirect.asp?sprt_cid=47887c69-d799-44ed-8165-3260010dcdcc>
3. Unplug the wireless boxes.
4. Power cycle the modem to clear the old MAC addresses.
5. Can you surf the internet this way? If so, the modem is working
as advertised. That leaves your two wireless boxes as the likely
culprit.

>Cable company says the soonest I can get a replacement modem is sometime
>next week.


Test the one you have with a direct connection as itemized above. If
that works, you don't need a new modem.

>BTW both Buffalo units and the Linksys work at other locations but different
>cable modems.


Work as routers or as access points (router disabled). I need to know
how you have it wired to determine if you've missed something.

>We have web access but only with the CAT5 connected to the cable modem one
>box at a time so we're not dead with regards to internet access but having
>to wait in line is a bit of a problem. (Not unlike bath room access when
>the grand daughters & friends are visiting.)


Never mind the test. Looks like the modem is working. I'll assume
that the WHR-HP-G54 is the box that's acting as a router. Make life
simple and try testing just this one box:
1. CAT5 cable from the internet port on the WHR-HP-G54 to the
ethernet port on the Ambit modem.
2. CAT5 cable from a working PC ethernet port to one of the 4 LAN
ports on the back of the WHR-HP-G54. You can do this via wireless,
but it just adds more complications.
3. Go to the "status" page on the WHR-HP-G54 and see if it displays
routeable IP addresses. If not, hit the "disconnect" and "connect"
buttons. Check the log file for errors. The usual problem is MAC
authentication.
4. If you've "cloned" the MAC address in the router, the ISP may have
the wrong MAC address, especially if your initial connection with the
new modem was NOT with the same PC you're using to test. If your
unspecified ISP uses MAC address authentication, call support and have
them reset the ARP table for your connection, or just wait about 15
minutes, with the modem disconnected, for it to reset.

>The issue is not critical but I would like to know what the problem and
>potential solution might be.


Hard to tell from here without numbers.

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Old 11-04-2007, 10:57 PM
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Peter Pan wrote:
> NotMe wrote:
>> Cable company replaced our modem with a AMBIT Model U10C018


>
> Just out of curiosity, what model ambit do you have?
> at http://www.ambitbroadband.com/NA/product.html they have a lot of
> different models, and some have built in wireless and/or routers..
> can't offer any suggestions without knowing what you have... :)


Ooops.. should have read the whole post, not just selective stuff... But
again, at that URL, read about that model router, and while it can do
ethernet, looks like it defaults to USB...

You may want to peruse the online docs and troubleshooting sections there
also.....

I wouldn't swear to it, but it looks like it is set up for USB by default,
and you have to enable/turn on the ethernet part..



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Old 11-06-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Problem with a cable modem

"NotMe" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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|
| Cable company replaced our modem with a AMBIT Model U10C018
|
| We have two Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 (Standard OEM software) and a Linksys
| WRT54GV5 (Standard OEM Software)
|
| All were individually working( one on line the rest spares) with the
| previous cable modem (Motorola S5100). None work with the current modem.
|
| We have all the usual idiot lights working but no communication. buffalo
| software indicates that it sees the AMBIT modem but is unable to talk to
the
| AMBIT modem.
|
| Cable support has no clue (they tried but have limited data on the AMBIT)
| Ambit support will not talk to the end user.
|
| Cable company says the soonest I can get a replacement modem is sometime
| next week.
|
| BTW both Buffalo units and the Linksys work at other locations but
different
| cable modems.
|
| We have web access but only with the CAT5 connected to the cable modem one
| box at a time so we're not dead with regards to internet access but having
| to wait in line is a bit of a problem. (Not unlike bath room access when
| the grand daughters & friends are visiting.)
|
| The issue is not critical but I would like to know what the problem and
| potential solution might be.

Follow up:

Cable tech came by and insisted the problem was not the modem. After
substituting 4-5 units of the same model he 'agreed' to try another brand.

Problem apparently solved but want to run the equipment for a while just to
be sure.




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