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Old 11-30-2006, 07:35 PM
starl8gazer@yahoo.com
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Default Problem with Cisco wireless card under Suse Linux 10.1

Hello,

Could anyone please help me out in the following problem?

Hardware:

* IBM laptop Thinkpad T30 Type 2366-B1U S/N 78-HFTB9 08/02

* Cisco PCMCIA card Aironet 340 11 Mbps 2.4GHz DS


System software:

* dual boot machine Windows XP and Linux

* Suse Linux 10.1, 'uname -rv' says '2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep
19 07:26:15 UTC 2006', all patches duly downloaded and installed;
using KDE

* infos from YaST/Network Devices/Cisco 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter:
Hardware Details:
Hardware Configuration Name: bus-pcmcia-0.0
Module Name: airo_cs
(that is what it came up with at the installation of Suse)


Symptoms:

* under Suse Linux, I cannot get wireless connection to local WLAN;
KWiFiManager shows excelent signal strength, KNetworkManager shows
that the little blue progress bar for the connection process stops at
about 2/3 of full length, SSID of local WLAN is recognized in both
cases

* under Windows XP wireless connection looks okay


What can I do to make the wireless card work under Suse Linux?

In you reply, please be specific as I am not a Linux expert at all.

Thank you for your time and help,

Starl8gazer

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Old 11-30-2006, 11:35 PM
Mr. Arnold6
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Default Re: Problem with Cisco wireless card under Suse Linux 10.1

starl8gazer@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Could anyone please help me out in the following problem?
>
> Hardware:
>
> * IBM laptop Thinkpad T30 Type 2366-B1U S/N 78-HFTB9 08/02
>
> * Cisco PCMCIA card Aironet 340 11 Mbps 2.4GHz DS
>
>
> System software:
>
> * dual boot machine Windows XP and Linux
>
> * Suse Linux 10.1, 'uname -rv' says '2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep
> 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006', all patches duly downloaded and installed;
> using KDE
>
> * infos from YaST/Network Devices/Cisco 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter:
> Hardware Details:
> Hardware Configuration Name: bus-pcmcia-0.0
> Module Name: airo_cs
> (that is what it came up with at the installation of Suse)
>
>
> Symptoms:
>
> * under Suse Linux, I cannot get wireless connection to local WLAN;
> KWiFiManager shows excelent signal strength, KNetworkManager shows
> that the little blue progress bar for the connection process stops at
> about 2/3 of full length, SSID of local WLAN is recognized in both
> cases
>
> * under Windows XP wireless connection looks okay
>
>
> What can I do to make the wireless card work under Suse Linux?
>
> In you reply, please be specific as I am not a Linux expert at all.
>
> Thank you for your time and help,
>
> Starl8gaze


That's the problem with Linux when it comes right down do it, no damn
support. I got nothing against Linux I got Suse myself, but if you want
support you got to pay, which is not unlike MS.

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Old 12-01-2006, 06:18 AM
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> That's the problem with Linux when it comes right down do it, no damn
> support. I got nothing against Linux I got Suse myself, but if you want
> support you got to pay, which is not unlike MS.


I assume thats why the OP posted here for sensible answers unlike your
idiotic reply.

Dave

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Old 12-01-2006, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: Problem with Cisco wireless card under Suse Linux 10.1

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 07:18:30 +0000, gort <me@privacy.net> wrote in
<4ta3a6F12il85U1@mid.individual.net>:

>
>> That's the problem with Linux when it comes right down do it, no damn
>> support. I got nothing against Linux I got Suse myself, but if you want
>> support you got to pay, which is not unlike MS.

>
>I assume thats why the OP posted here for sensible answers unlike your
>idiotic reply.


The only thing idiotic is childish name calling.

Support is in fact a significant issue with Linux.

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Old 12-01-2006, 08:32 AM
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starl8gazer@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Could anyone please help me out in the following problem?
>
> Hardware:
>
> * IBM laptop Thinkpad T30 Type 2366-B1U S/N 78-HFTB9 08/02
>
> * Cisco PCMCIA card Aironet 340 11 Mbps 2.4GHz DS
>
>
> System software:
>
> * dual boot machine Windows XP and Linux
>
> * Suse Linux 10.1, 'uname -rv' says '2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep
> 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006', all patches duly downloaded and installed;
> using KDE
>
> * infos from YaST/Network Devices/Cisco 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter:
> Hardware Details:
> Hardware Configuration Name: bus-pcmcia-0.0
> Module Name: airo_cs
> (that is what it came up with at the installation of Suse)
>
>
> Symptoms:
>
> * under Suse Linux, I cannot get wireless connection to local WLAN;
> KWiFiManager shows excelent signal strength, KNetworkManager shows
> that the little blue progress bar for the connection process stops at
> about 2/3 of full length, SSID of local WLAN is recognized in both
> cases
>
> * under Windows XP wireless connection looks okay
>
>
> What can I do to make the wireless card work under Suse Linux?
>
> In you reply, please be specific as I am not a Linux expert at all.
>
> Thank you for your time and help,
>
> Starl8gazer

That sounds like the radio part is ok.
We need to know a little bit more, though.
Presumably you have configured an IP address/netmask or is it DHCP?
What does iwconfig eth1 (I'm blindly assuming eth0 is the ethernet port
and eth1 is the wireless port) say?
Are you using WEP?

Werner

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Old 12-01-2006, 11:42 AM
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gort wrote:
>>That's the problem with Linux when it comes right down do it, no damn
>>support. I got nothing against Linux I got Suse myself, but if you want
>>support you got to pay, which is not unlike MS.

>
>
> I assume thats why the OP posted here for sensible answers unlike your
> idiotic reply.
>
> Dave


How sad, let us see some of that technical expertise out of you,
partner, in the wireless NG about Linux. The fact remains there is no
abundant support for Linux and it's a problem, for the average Job Blow
home user. And if you have to post to a Linux NG, then you're most
likely going to be called a bunch of names for making the post, which is
not unlike you have done here.

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Old 12-01-2006, 11:53 AM
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>
> How sad, let us see some of that technical expertise out of you,
> partner, in the wireless NG about Linux. The fact remains there is no
> abundant support for Linux and it's a problem, for the average Job Blow
> home user. And if you have to post to a Linux NG, then you're most
> likely going to be called a bunch of names for making the post, which is
> not unlike you have done here.


Ok aside from your silliness, why don't you ask the OP which chipset is
actually on the wireless card as there are well know ones for which
excellent solutions exist. Most problems with wireless and linux CAN be
solved unlike your sweeping inaccurate statement. Support exists in lots of
places for linux users, man pages and newsgroups like these are just 2. I
have had lots of excellent support over the years and given plenty back.
THe fact remains that twats like you put off people from getting to grips
with linux by spreading FUD ( do you work for a large Redmond based company
by any chance?).
Stick to windows, it very user friendly HA HA.

Dave

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Old 12-01-2006, 12:31 PM
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gort wrote:
>>How sad, let us see some of that technical expertise out of you,
>>partner, in the wireless NG about Linux. The fact remains there is no
>>abundant support for Linux and it's a problem, for the average Job Blow
>>home user. And if you have to post to a Linux NG, then you're most
>>likely going to be called a bunch of names for making the post, which is
>>not unlike you have done here.

>
>
> Ok aside from your silliness, why don't you ask the OP which chipset is
> actually on the wireless card as there are well know ones for which
> excellent solutions exist. Most problems with wireless and linux CAN be
> solved unlike your sweeping inaccurate statement. Support exists in lots of
> places for linux users, man pages and newsgroups like these are just 2. I
> have had lots of excellent support over the years and given plenty back.
> THe fact remains that twats like you put off people from getting to grips
> with linux by spreading FUD ( do you work for a large Redmond based company
> by any chance?).
> Stick to windows, it very user friendly HA HA.
>
> Dave


Why don't you ask the questions and give the support instead of running
your mouth on this or are you're too superior like most tend to think
they are, when it comes to using Linux, just like you're showing here,
once again?

Linux is not user friendly and it's a problem for the platform from the
average Joe Blow home user, prespective. It has to be corrected, because
they are not going to come to NG's and ask questions. They will pick up
the phone to ask a 3rd party vendor about some software they are tyring
to use or install on the Linux platform, only to get the response, we
don't support Linux.

You need to go hurt yourself on your computer and drop dead, partner.

Anyway, I am already tired of you and your mouth.

You're just another lunatic home user running Linux.

adios muchacho



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Old 12-01-2006, 03:05 PM
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> Anyway, I am already tired of you and your mouth.
>
> You're just another lunatic home user running Linux.
>
> adios muchacho


Yes I was just about to tell you to fuck off and go back to playing with
Uncle Bill

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Old 12-01-2006, 04:20 PM
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<plank> - soft logical <plonk>

You should have your mama change your Pamper, give you your bottle with
Riddlin and Prozac to calm you down - you're loose out of the play
pin, and she can then put you in street traffic, where you can play,
wirelessly. You don't have to drop dead that way. It will be painless
for you when the MAC truck hits you, ridding your tricycle with red
wagon in tow.

You can call Sir Hollywood News Clippings Willy/aka Billy to come and
get you, if they can scrape you off the street, partner.

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Old 12-01-2006, 09:37 PM
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Hi,

I'm sending an updated problem description including info addressing
Werner's comments. In short, I'm using DHCP; WLAN is unencrypted; output
from 'iwconfig eth0' see below.

Cheers,

Starl8gazer

----


Hardware:

* IBM laptop Thinkpad T30 Type 2366-B1U S/N 78-HFTB9 08/02

* Cisco PCMCIA card Aironet 340 11Mbps 2.4GHz DS


System software:

* dual boot machine Windows XP and Linux

* Suse Linux 10.1, 'uname -rv' says '2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep
19 07:26:15 UTC 2006', all patches duly downloaded and installed;
using KDE

* infos from YaST/Network Devices/Cisco 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter:
Automatic Address Setup (via DHCP)
Hardware Details:
Hardware Configuration Name: bus-pcmcia-0.0
Module Name: airo_cs
(that is what it came up with at the installation of Suse)
DHCP Options: Hostname to Send: AUTO


Symptoms:

* under Suse Linux, I cannot get wireless connection to local WLAN;
KWiFiManager shows excelent signal strength, KNetworkManager shows that
the little blue progress bar for the connection process stops at about
2/3 of full length, SSID of local unincrypted WLAN is recognized in both
cases

* output from...

> # ifconfig eth1

eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:96:44:9F:C7
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2036 errors:463 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:463
TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:145412 (142.0 Kb) TX bytes:78 (78.0 b)
Interrupt:4 Base address:0x4100

> # iwconfig eth1

eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"<local_wlan_id>"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:24:C8:9B:60
Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535
Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=48/100 Signal level=-72 dBm Noise level=-256 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:3 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:466 Missed beacon:0

* same card used to work under Suse 9.1

* under Windows XP wireless connection looks okay



> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:32:21 +0800
> From: Werner <werda@netfront.net>
>
>
> starl8gazer@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Could anyone please help me out in the following problem?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > In you reply, please be specific as I am not a Linux expert at all.
> >
> > Thank you for your time and help,
> >
> > Starl8gazer

>
> That sounds like the radio part is ok.
> We need to know a little bit more, though.
> Presumably you have configured an IP address/netmask or is it DHCP?
> What does iwconfig eth1 (I'm blindly assuming eth0 is the ethernet port
> and eth1 is the wireless port) say?
> Are you using WEP?
>
> Werner
>


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Old 12-01-2006, 11:12 PM
Tony Hwang
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starl8gazer@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm sending an updated problem description including info addressing
> Werner's comments. In short, I'm using DHCP; WLAN is unencrypted; output
> from 'iwconfig eth0' see below.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Starl8gazer
>
> ----
>
>
> Hardware:
>
> * IBM laptop Thinkpad T30 Type 2366-B1U S/N 78-HFTB9 08/02
>
> * Cisco PCMCIA card Aironet 340 11Mbps 2.4GHz DS
>
>
> System software:
>
> * dual boot machine Windows XP and Linux
>
> * Suse Linux 10.1, 'uname -rv' says '2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep
> 19 07:26:15 UTC 2006', all patches duly downloaded and installed;
> using KDE
>
> * infos from YaST/Network Devices/Cisco 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter:
> Automatic Address Setup (via DHCP)
> Hardware Details:
> Hardware Configuration Name: bus-pcmcia-0.0
> Module Name: airo_cs
> (that is what it came up with at the installation of Suse)
> DHCP Options: Hostname to Send: AUTO
>
>
> Symptoms:
>
> * under Suse Linux, I cannot get wireless connection to local WLAN;
> KWiFiManager shows excelent signal strength, KNetworkManager shows that
> the little blue progress bar for the connection process stops at about
> 2/3 of full length, SSID of local unincrypted WLAN is recognized in both
> cases
>
> * output from...
>
>
>># ifconfig eth1

>
> eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:96:44:9F:C7
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:2036 errors:463 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:463
> TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:145412 (142.0 Kb) TX bytes:78 (78.0 b)
> Interrupt:4 Base address:0x4100
>
>
>># iwconfig eth1

>
> eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"<local_wlan_id>"
> Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:24:C8:9B:60
> Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535
> Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
> Encryption key:off
> Power Management:off
> Link Quality=48/100 Signal level=-72 dBm Noise level=-256 dBm
> Rx invalid nwid:3 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
> Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:466 Missed beacon:0
>
> * same card used to work under Suse 9.1
>
> * under Windows XP wireless connection looks okay
>
>
>
>
>>Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:32:21 +0800
>>From: Werner <werda@netfront.net>
>>
>>
>>starl8gazer@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>Could anyone please help me out in the following problem?
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>In you reply, please be specific as I am not a Linux expert at all.
>>>
>>>Thank you for your time and help,
>>>
>>>Starl8gazer

>>
>>That sounds like the radio part is ok.
>>We need to know a little bit more, though.
>>Presumably you have configured an IP address/netmask or is it DHCP?
>>What does iwconfig eth1 (I'm blindly assuming eth0 is the ethernet port
>>and eth1 is the wireless port) say?
>>Are you using WEP?
>>
>>Werner
>>

Hi,
Can you ping anything?

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Old 12-02-2006, 04:26 PM
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starl8gazer@yahoo.com hath wroth:

>> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:32:21 +0800
>> From: Werner <werda@netfront.net>
>> Are you using WEP?
>> Werner


Are you using WEP?
If so, use the hex key, not the ASCII key.


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Old 12-04-2006, 04:30 PM
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Hi all,

I just noticed one more puzzling detail. As I said, the WLAN does not
use any encryption, and hence my entries in YaST/"Cisco 340 Series
Wireless LAN Adapter"/"Wireless Network Card Configuration" are:

Network Name (ESSID): <empty>
Authentication Mode: Open
Key Input Type: Passphrase [defaults to this since...]
Encryption Key: <empty>

Yet, in KWiFiManager/Scan for Networks I see
Network Name: <local_wlan_id>
Mode: Managed
WEP: on <-- ???

And when I click on this entry and click "Switch to Network", I get a
window saying "Aborting network switching due to invalid WEP key
specification".

What's going on here?

Starl8gazer


> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:26:18 -0800
> From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
>
> starl8gazer@yahoo.com hath wroth:
>
> >> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:32:21 +0800
> >> From: Werner <werda@netfront.net>
> >> Are you using WEP?
> >> Werner

>
> Are you using WEP?
> If so, use the hex key, not the ASCII key.
>


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Old 12-04-2006, 05:37 PM
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starl8gazer_remove_@yahoo.com hath wroth:

>What's going on here?


Second try. You are apparently using WEP. If so, please use the Hex
key, not the ASCII key. There are at least 3 different idiotic
methods various manufacturers have elected to convert ASCII keys to
Hex keys. They are mutually incompatible. Hex always works. If you
want to know exactly how it (doesn't work), see the Perl code at:
http://www.wigle.net/jigle/wep.pl



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Old 12-04-2006, 06:41 PM
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Jeff, all,

That's odd... I am told the local WLAN does not use any encryption,
i.e., WEP, so I don't even want to use it. In fact, that's what seems to
work under Windows XP. As I understand the instructions in YaST, setting
the Authentication Mode "Open" should be fine then. Setting Key Input
Type doesn't doing anything, i.e., setting it to Hex with empty
Encryption Key and clicking "Next", brings up a warning, "Using no
encryption is a security risk. Really continue?", I say "Yes" and "Next"
and restart the YaST Network Config, it's back to "Passphrase".

Starl8gazer


> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:37:27 -0800
> From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
>
> starl8gazer_remove_@yahoo.com hath wroth:
>
> >What's going on here?

>
> Second try. You are apparently using WEP. If so, please use the Hex
> key, not the ASCII key. There are at least 3 different idiotic
> methods various manufacturers have elected to convert ASCII keys to
> Hex keys. They are mutually incompatible. Hex always works. If you
> want to know exactly how it (doesn't work), see the Perl code at:
> http://www.wigle.net/jigle/wep.pl
>


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Old 12-04-2006, 09:49 PM
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On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:41:53 -0500, starl8gazer_remove_@yahoo.com
wrote:

>That's odd... I am told the local WLAN does not use any encryption,
>i.e., WEP, so I don't even want to use it.


Are you sure there's no encryption being used on whatever you're
trying to connect? You can check with any site survey tool such a
Netstumbler or Kismet.

>In fact, that's what seems to
>work under Windows XP.


What is "that"? Is it working under XP with WEP or with no
encryption?

>As I understand the instructions in YaST, setting
>the Authentication Mode "Open" should be fine then.


Open is correct. But it has nothing to do with encryption. It's what
is used to authenticate after making a successful association and
encryption key exchange. Open Authentication really means "no
authentication at all".

>Setting Key Input
>Type doesn't doing anything, i.e., setting it to Hex with empty
>Encryption Key and clicking "Next", brings up a warning, "Using no
>encryption is a security risk. Really continue?", I say "Yes" and "Next"
>and restart the YaST Network Config, it's back to "Passphrase".


Well, the settings you posted suggest that you have WEP enabled on
your Cisco 340 wireless card.

I had lots of problems with the initial install and subsequent update
when I tried SUSE 10.1. I had to go back to 9.3 in order to deliver a
working server. However, there was no internal wireless involved in
this system so I have no experience with the latest bugs. I couldn't
find anything in Bugzilla for 10.1 that's related:
<https://bugzilla.novell.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type= allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=SUSE+Lin ux&product=SUSE+Linux+10.1&long_desc_type=substrin g&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_ file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&st atus_whiteboard=&keywords_type=anywords&keywords=& bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEED INFO&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&email type1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailr eporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype 2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&vote s=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtyp e=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=>
However, there are some notes that the network manager will screwup if
you are using WEP but have a "hidden" (non broadcasting) SSID.

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:15 PM
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:53:08 +0000, gort <me@privacy.net> wrote in
<4tamtkF12o44sU4@mid.individual.net>:

>
>>
>> How sad, let us see some of that technical expertise out of you,
>> partner, in the wireless NG about Linux. The fact remains there is no
>> abundant support for Linux and it's a problem, for the average Job Blow
>> home user. And if you have to post to a Linux NG, then you're most
>> likely going to be called a bunch of names for making the post, which is
>> not unlike you have done here.

>
>Ok aside from your silliness, why don't you ask the OP which chipset is
>actually on the wireless card as there are well know ones for which
>excellent solutions exist.


Because he shouldn't have to know that, and that's beyond more users in
any event.

>Most problems with wireless and linux CAN be
>solved unlike your sweeping inaccurate statement.


By the self-professed "clueful" -- not by the "rest of us".

>Support exists in lots of
>places for linux users, man pages and newsgroups like these are just 2.


Most of which are unintelligible to the average person. You might as
well write them in Chinese.

>I
>have had lots of excellent support over the years and given plenty back.


Sure, but that's you, not Joe Sixpack.

>THe fact remains that twats like you put off people from getting to grips
>with linux by spreading FUD ( do you work for a large Redmond based company
>by any chance?).


The fact remains that Linux proponents tend to do more harm than good
with that kind of arrogant ranting.

>Stick to windows, it very user friendly HA HA.


Certainly more so than Linux.

--
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John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
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Default Problems with KNetworkManager and KWifiManager

[ was "Problem with Cisco wireless card under Suse Linux 10.1" ]

Hello,

It turned out that the Cisco _card_ was not the problem. Below is an
updated problem description. In short, connection to local WLAN fails
using (K)NetworkManager, yet is successful using "traditional method
with ifup" in the Suse YaST network setup.

What is wrong? What can I do to make KNetworkManager and KWiFiManager work?

Again, in you reply, please be specific as I am not a Linux expert at
all. The (potential) jargon you see is what I gathered from other
people.

Thank you,

Starl8gazer


----------


Problem description:
--------------------

Hardware:

* IBM laptop Thinkpad T30 Type 2366-B1U S/N 78-HFTB9 08/02

* Cisco PCMCIA card Aironet 340 11Mbps 2.4GHz DS


Linux system software:

* Suse Linux 10.1, 'uname -rv' says '2.6.16.21-0.25-default #1 Tue Sep
19 07:26:15 UTC 2006', all patches duly downloaded and installed;
using KDE

* infos from YaST/Network Devices/Cisco 340 Series Wireless LAN Adapter:
Automatic Address Setup (via DHCP)
Network Name (ESSID): <empty>
Authentication Mode: Open
Key Input Type: Passphrase
Encryption Key: <empty>
Hardware Details:
Hardware Configuration Name: bus-pcmcia-0.0
Module Name: airo_cs
(that is what it came up with at the installation of Suse)
DHCP Options: Hostname to Send: AUTO


Local WLAN info:

* no encryption, no authentication


Symptoms:

* choosing "User Controlled with NetworkManager" as Network Setup Method,
I cannot get wireless connection to local WLAN;
KNetworkManager sees local WLAN, but shows that the little blue progress
bar for the connection process stops at about 2/3 of full length;
KWiFiManager shows excellent signal strength and also sees Network Name,
yet all entries of the local WLAN show WEP "on" which should not be
the case; trying "Switch to Network" fails with error message "Aborting
network switching due to invalid WEP key specification"

* choosing "Traditional Method with ifup" as Network Setup Method,
wireless connection is successful;
KWiFiManager again shows entries of local WLAN with WEP "on", but also one
with WEP empty; trying to switch to it results in the same error message
as described above

* when working with NetworkManager: output from...

michelson:/ # ifconfig eth1
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:96:44:9F:C7
[ with traditional method, there is an extra line here with
inet addr:.... Bcast:... Mask:... ]
inet6 addr: fe80::240:96ff:fe44:9fc7/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:71697 errors:4011 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:4011
TX packets:28793 errors:286385 dropped:0 overruns:286385 carrier:0
collisions:1809 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:34389724 (32.7 Mb) TX bytes:8257695 (7.8 Mb)
Interrupt:4 Base address:0x4100

michelson:/ # iwconfig eth1
eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"<local_WLAN>" Nickname:"michelson"
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:0F:24:C8:9B:60
Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity=0/65535
Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Encryption key:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=41/100 Signal level=-75 dBm Noise level=-256 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:11 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:3155 Missed beacon:0

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