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Old 02-26-2008, 11:53 AM
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Default Problems with wireless network card

A few days ago, I purchased and installed a new Netgear router (WNDR3300) to
replace my old Netgear router (MR814v2). I copied down all the settings
from my old router and used them to configure my new router. I have 4
desktops that are wired to the new router and a TiVo connected wirelessly to
the new router. All are working fine.

However, my laptop, which has a Linksys WPC11v3 wireless network card, can't
seem to connect at all. On the laptop, when I go to view the wireless
networks, I can see my router/SSID listed there. It is even showing as
having a very strong signal. I select it, click on the connect button and
enter my WEP key (even though I had already set it in the properties of that
connection) but it never seems to actually connect to the router. It'll
just sit there trying and then finally time out. I know the problem isn't
that I've set the WEP key incorrectly in my router configuration because my
TiVo is connecting just fine using the same old key.

Although I'm sure the problem isn't the WEP key, I removed the it and set my
router to allow unsecured connections just to verify whether or not the
issue was the key. When trying to connect unsecured, though the card could
see the router/SSID as before, it still couldn't actually complete the
connection.

I've searched Google to see if there might be some known issue between the
WPC11v3 card and the WNDR3300 router, but came up with nothing. Does anyone
know if there is, in fact, an issue between these two? Or does anyone have
some suggestions as to what more I can try to get these two together? I'm
very confused as to why/how the card can see the router/SSID, report that
the signal strength is high but not be able to actually connect regardless
of whether trying with the proper WEP key or trying unsecured.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

thnx,
Christoph



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Old 02-26-2008, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Problems with wireless network card

"Sorrow" <jcboget@yahoo.com> hath wroth:

>I select it, click on the connect button and
>enter my WEP key ...


WEP Encryption has problems. Use the Hex key (26 characters) instead
of the ASCII equivalent and it will work. Different manufacturers
have different creative ideas of how to convert from ASCII to Hex.

However, you should not be using WEP. It's not very secure and is
easily cracked. Use WPA or WPA2 instead, with a long pass phrase.

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Old 02-26-2008, 05:50 PM
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>>I select it, click on the connect button and
>>enter my WEP key ...

> WEP Encryption has problems. Use the Hex key (26 characters) instead
> of the ASCII equivalent and it will work. Different manufacturers
> have different creative ideas of how to convert from ASCII to Hex.


I am using a 26 character hex key. At least, as far as I know. On my
router, I selected a 128bit encryption, entered my phrase and told it to
generate the key. Out came a 26 character key.

> However, you should not be using WEP. It's not very secure and is
> easily cracked. Use WPA or WPA2 instead, with a long pass phrase.


AFAIK, neither my TiVo nor my WPC11v3 (when it was working) could use WPA.
In fact, I don't even see that as a setting option when I go into the
properties of the wireless connection.

thnx,
Christoph


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Old 02-26-2008, 08:05 PM
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"Christoph Boget" <jcboget@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fq1jgt$a3o$1@aioe.org...
>>>I select it, click on the connect button and
>>>enter my WEP key ...

>> WEP Encryption has problems. Use the Hex key (26 characters) instead
>> of the ASCII equivalent and it will work. Different manufacturers
>> have different creative ideas of how to convert from ASCII to Hex.

>
> I am using a 26 character hex key. At least, as far as I know. On my
> router, I selected a 128bit encryption, entered my phrase and told it to
> generate the key. Out came a 26 character key.
>
>> However, you should not be using WEP. It's not very secure and is
>> easily cracked. Use WPA or WPA2 instead, with a long pass phrase.

>
> AFAIK, neither my TiVo nor my WPC11v3 (when it was working) could use WPA.
> In fact, I don't even see that as a setting option when I go into the
> properties of the wireless connection.
>
> thnx,
> Christoph


http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...#versiondetail


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Old 02-26-2008, 09:50 PM
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:50:15 -0500, "Christoph Boget"
<jcboget@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>I select it, click on the connect button and
>>>enter my WEP key ...

>> WEP Encryption has problems. Use the Hex key (26 characters) instead
>> of the ASCII equivalent and it will work. Different manufacturers
>> have different creative ideas of how to convert from ASCII to Hex.

>
>I am using a 26 character hex key. At least, as far as I know. On my
>router, I selected a 128bit encryption, entered my phrase and told it to
>generate the key. Out came a 26 character key.


If it's 13 characters long, it's ASCII.
If it's 26 characters long, it's Hex.
If you're really using the Hex key, it *SHOULD* work. All I can think
of is a typing error.

>> However, you should not be using WEP. It's not very secure and is
>> easily cracked. Use WPA or WPA2 instead, with a long pass phrase.

>
>AFAIK, neither my TiVo nor my WPC11v3 (when it was working) could use WPA.


True. A quick check of the WPC11v3 data sheet shows WEP only. Bummer.
There a driver update that adds WPA encryption.
<http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayo ut&cid=1166859958334&packedargs=sku%3D111541682835 0&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=5 833428350B03&displaypage=download#versiondetail>
For XP only. Incidentally, that's one reason that I like Linksys.
They update drivers for security fixes on products they no longer
sell.

>In fact, I don't even see that as a setting option when I go into the
>properties of the wireless connection.


On which? The Tivo or the WPC11v3?

I don't know anything about your unspecified model Tivo box or
unspecified wireless card. There may also be WPA updates available.
Check the Tivo groups.

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Old 02-27-2008, 12:57 PM
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> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...ldpagename=US%

I already tried updating my driver to ensure I had the most recent thinking
that might be a cause. I was told by windows that a more up to date version
could not be found. :(

thnx,
Christoph


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