Re: Fluke wifi sniffer

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:20:08 -0700 (PDT), "miso@sushi.com"
<miso@sushi.com> wrote:

>New Fluke device fights child ****, identity theft, phishing scheme,
>but will not cure baldness or relieve that painful burning sensation.
>http://www.kval.com/news/local/127593558.html
>Everett-based Fluke Networks adapted a troubleshooting product to help
>law enforcement officials fight crime.
(...)

Adapted how? Nothing on sniffing content on the Fluke web site:
<http://www.flukenetworks.com/enterprise-network/network-testing/AirCheck-Wi-Fi-Tester>
$2000. Basically, it's a neat portable sniffer similar to InSSIDer,
Kismet, or other wireless sniffer software. What the clueless author
of the KVAL article lacked was the understanding that the wireless
access point or client needs to be previously identified as a source
or consumer of child ****ography, and that the Fluke instrument will
simply nail down some details required to identify the perpetrator.
That can also be done with any wireless sniffer.

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On Aug 18, 9:04*am, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:20:08 -0700 (PDT), "m...@sushi.com"
>
> <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
> >New Fluke device fights child ****, identity theft, phishing scheme,
> >but will not cure baldness or relieve that painful burning sensation.
> >http://www.kval.com/news/local/127593558.html
> >Everett-based Fluke Networks adapted a troubleshooting product to help
> >law enforcement officials fight crime.
>
> (...)
>
> Adapted how? *Nothing on sniffing content on the Fluke web site:
> <http://www.flukenetworks.com/enterprise-network/network-testing/AirCh...>
> $2000. *Basically, it's a neat portable sniffer similar to InSSIDer,
> Kismet, or other wireless sniffer software. *What the clueless author
> of the KVAL article lacked was the understanding that the wireless
> access point or client needs to be previously identified as a source
> or consumer of child ****ography, and that the Fluke instrument will
> simply nail down some details required to identify the perpetrator.
> That can also be done with any wireless sniffer. *
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann * * je...@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558

It doesn't appear to have enough volume to contain much of a
directional antenna.

My guess is they have to know the mac, then try to DF it mostly on
signal strength. If you have a little bit of directionality, you
probably could use signal strength to aid in DFing.

Basically this is the kind of device we would dream up, ponder upon,
then declare kind of useless. But we're not in the business of
fleecing the government. As you know, with a directional antenna, the
client could be some distance away from the WAP itself, and further
could be cloaked by WAPs near the client. That is, the cop would have
to get on the beam of the client rather than any WAP near the client.

It's really a shame a good company like Fluke would peddle such
nonsense.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), "miso@sushi.com"
<miso@sushi.com> wrote:

>It's really a shame a good company like Fluke would peddle such
>nonsense.

Fluke is not peddling such nonsense. Read the data sheets and web
page and notice that it's not being sold as some kind of search and
destroy device. It's meant for wireless troubleshooting, mostly in a
corporate, municipal, or government environment. It's the author of
the article you quoted that has an excessively creative imagination.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Aug 18, 9:02*pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), "m...@sushi.com"
>
> <m...@sushi.com> wrote:
> >It's really a shame a good company like Fluke would peddle such
> >nonsense.
>
> Fluke is not peddling such nonsense. *Read the data sheets and web
> page and notice that it's not being sold as some kind of search and
> destroy device. *It's meant for wireless troubleshooting, mostly in a
> corporate, municipal, or government environment. *It's the author of
> the article you quoted that has an excessively creative imagination.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann * * je...@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558

I checked out the Fluke website. I noticed the directional antenna is
external.

Well let's hope the PD isn't going to bust down doors based on their
interpretation of this box. We're dealing with people that barely
understand their HTs let alone something like the innards of wifi.