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Old 10-31-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: Hard to explain issue - Advises needed

When he got 169.254.x.x did he able to access internet? or same as Anne
having a "LIMited Connectivity"? Did he has to wait a long time after
connect to acquire an IP and finally got this 169.254.x.x? If so, may be my
experience has something to do with the problem.

When I have a good signal from my wifi router and connected I used to wait
for a long long time at the acquire IP address stage and finally failed.
Then I'll have an unexpected IP at the ipconfig response, and internet
access is not available. If at the acquire IP stage I move my laptop closer
to the router, it got assigned a good IP immediately. I think (I am not an
wifi engineer) this has something to do with the quality from the laptop to
the router. The so called good signal you saw when connecting is just the
signal from the router is good. wifi communication is two-ways. Client side
needs to have good signal to the router as well, which the client side
doesn't have any indication on this.

Try to move the laptop closer to the WAP and see if it help.

"tomecki" <tomecki.2zaics@no-mx.wirelessforums.org> wrote in message
news:tomecki.2zaics@no-mx.wirelessforums.org...
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have an extremly wierd problem. I am working for the company which is
> providing the HSIA to the hotels and other properties. Recently I
> recieved a call from our customer. He lives in the house where he should
> be able to connect wirelessly without any issues. I was troubleshooting
> him for last week but none of my ideas resolved it. This guy has 2
> laptops - first brand new and the second one a little bit older. On both
> laptops he is detecting appropriate SSID's broadcasted by the nearest
> WAPs with a pretty good signal. But everytime he is attempting to
> connect IP - 169.254.x.x is being assigned. He was able to connect two
> blocks away from his house (the same equipment is installed in his
> neighbourhood) It's not a DHCP issue cause it has been investigated, all
> the Access Points are working just fine too. The most astonishing thing
> is that his friend is able to connect inside of his house using his own
> laptop.
>
> New one Toshiba Satelite is running on WinVISTA. Originally I thought
> it's a drivers issue cause these which he had installed were outdated.
> He installed the newest compatibile with VISTA but it still didn't help.
> All the time he is getting 169.254.x.x. My first idea was to assign him
> a static settings - it didn't help. I went through the configuration of
> his wireless NIC hoping I can make it working more efficiently - still
> no success.
>
> Finally I decided we will try with the second laptop. Exactly the same
> sympthoms.
>
> Both laptops are equipped with good built in wireless NIC's - ATHEROS.
> I can't believe they are both failing. Just to double check I advised
> him to buy an external one. He bought a PCMCIA NetGear card. First we
> gave it a try with utility - results were still the same. Then using
> Wireless Zero Configuration - still the same.
>
> I can't find a logical answer for it. Please help me !!. I now it's
> impossible that this isn't working, especially when somebody else is
> able to connect from his place. :confused:
>
> THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.wirelessforums.org/troubleshooting/hard-explain-issue-advises-needed-31182.html
> http://www.wirelessforums.org
>




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Old 11-04-2007, 04:00 AM
P.Schuman
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Default Re: Hard to explain issue - Advises needed

First - the 169.x.x.x address will never connect to anything besides itself
and other local computers that don't have an address assigned via DHCP or
Static.
It's Microsoft's way of "helping" local computers get a dynamic IP without a
DHCP server
Basically - IT'S AN ERROR !!

the other part is Vista or XP - you need to mention if Vista or XP is the system
that works or not -

I've played a little with Vista networking - and there are a TON of items that
MS
has added into Vista networking to "protect" the user
that it makes it unuseable at times...

"senderj" <senderj@happy.net> wrote in message news:4728010c$1@127.0.0.1...
> When he got 169.254.x.x did he able to access internet? or same as Anne
> having a "LIMited Connectivity"? Did he has to wait a long time after
> connect to acquire an IP and finally got this 169.254.x.x? If so, may be my
> experience has something to do with the problem.
>
> When I have a good signal from my wifi router and connected I used to wait
> for a long long time at the acquire IP address stage and finally failed.
> Then I'll have an unexpected IP at the ipconfig response, and internet
> access is not available. If at the acquire IP stage I move my laptop closer
> to the router, it got assigned a good IP immediately. I think (I am not an
> wifi engineer) this has something to do with the quality from the laptop to
> the router. The so called good signal you saw when connecting is just the
> signal from the router is good. wifi communication is two-ways. Client side
> needs to have good signal to the router as well, which the client side
> doesn't have any indication on this.
>
> Try to move the laptop closer to the WAP and see if it help.
>
> "tomecki" <tomecki.2zaics@no-mx.wirelessforums.org> wrote in message
> news:tomecki.2zaics@no-mx.wirelessforums.org...
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have an extremly wierd problem. I am working for the company which is
> > providing the HSIA to the hotels and other properties. Recently I
> > recieved a call from our customer. He lives in the house where he should
> > be able to connect wirelessly without any issues. I was troubleshooting
> > him for last week but none of my ideas resolved it. This guy has 2
> > laptops - first brand new and the second one a little bit older. On both
> > laptops he is detecting appropriate SSID's broadcasted by the nearest
> > WAPs with a pretty good signal. But everytime he is attempting to
> > connect IP - 169.254.x.x is being assigned. He was able to connect two
> > blocks away from his house (the same equipment is installed in his
> > neighbourhood) It's not a DHCP issue cause it has been investigated, all
> > the Access Points are working just fine too. The most astonishing thing
> > is that his friend is able to connect inside of his house using his own
> > laptop.
> >
> > New one Toshiba Satelite is running on WinVISTA. Originally I thought
> > it's a drivers issue cause these which he had installed were outdated.
> > He installed the newest compatibile with VISTA but it still didn't help.
> > All the time he is getting 169.254.x.x. My first idea was to assign him
> > a static settings - it didn't help. I went through the configuration of
> > his wireless NIC hoping I can make it working more efficiently - still
> > no success.
> >
> > Finally I decided we will try with the second laptop. Exactly the same
> > sympthoms.
> >
> > Both laptops are equipped with good built in wireless NIC's - ATHEROS.
> > I can't believe they are both failing. Just to double check I advised
> > him to buy an external one. He bought a PCMCIA NetGear card. First we
> > gave it a try with utility - results were still the same. Then using
> > Wireless Zero Configuration - still the same.
> >
> > I can't find a logical answer for it. Please help me !!. I now it's
> > impossible that this isn't working, especially when somebody else is
> > able to connect from his place. :confused:
> >
> > THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > View this thread: http://www.wirelessforums.org/showthread.php?t=31182
> > http://www.wirelessforums.org
> >

>
>




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