Go Back   Wireless and Wifi Forums > News > Newsgroups > alt.internet.wireless
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2007, 04:26 AM
Jeff Liebermann
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: how to measure ?

prototype_nsx <prototype_nsx.2vvv2l@no-mx.wirelessforums.org> hath
wroth:

>i have a question about wireless networking since the manufacturers
>always talk about high gain antennas they never seem to mention about
>the distance it's gonna cover like if they say as an example if u have
>this router/ap and if u attach that antenna to it u can cover upto 5
>km/miles .. like that(under normal circumstances) which will be very
>helpful for ppl like (i dont know anyone else exist like me or not..)
>anyway .. is that too much to ask... pls comment


I'll resist the temptation to answer your question with one long
sentence.

It's fairly easy to calculate the range of given system if you know
the parameters. See example at:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Link_Calculations>

However, let's make it even easier. Let's pretent you have a generic
access point with the stock 2dBi rubber ducky antenna, and a generic
laptop, with the stock 0dBi internal antenna. You take a walk with
the laptop and find that you can surf the internet reliably to about
20 meters range.

You then think...... perhaps if I install an aftermarket antenna on
the access point. How far will I get?

Well, that's really easy. Each 6dB of gain is double the range. 12dB
is 4 times. 18dB is 8 times the range. 24dB is 16 times the range.
So, a 24dBi dish antenna will yield identical speed and thruput of:

24dBi (dish gain) - 2dBi (ducky gain) - 3dB (coax loss) = 19dB gain

Range increase = 10^(dB/20) = 10^(19/20) = 10^0.95 = 8.9 times the
range or 178 meters.

However, that might set you thinking that perhaps a bigger antenna
might be useful on the laptop. The same logic applies. I'm lazy so
I'll just attach another 24dBi dish antenna with the same lossy coax
cable. However, instead of a 2dBi rubber ducky on the access point,
we're blessed with a 0dBi ceramic antenna with a rather lossy piece of
tiny coax. I'll be generous and give it 0dBi gain.

24dBi (dish gain) - 0dBi (ceramic) -3dB (coax loss) = 21dB gain.

Range increase = 10^(dB/20) = 10^(21/20) = 10^1.05 = 11 times the
range. So, your 178 meters range is now:
178 * 11 = 1,958 meters range.
Is that far enough?

Unfortunately, this is for ideal conditions, with no interference, no
Fresnel Zone issues, perfectly aligned antennas, and perfect line of
sight. In the city, it's almost impossible to find a 2000 meter path
with such conditions. Therefore, you may not be able to go that far.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how to measure ? prototype_nsx Wireless Networking Discussion 1 09-17-2007 03:43 PM
Re: how to measure ? Dana alt.internet.wireless 1 08-26-2007 04:34 AM
iPhone: By any measure a fantastic Success karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net alt.cellular.cingular 16 07-05-2007 05:27 PM
Netgear WG511v2 doesn't measure up to WG511 v1 John Navas alt.internet.wireless 16 10-10-2005 02:30 PM
measure thruput between wireless card and wap jawdoc alt.internet.wireless 7 08-19-2005 02:31 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45