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Old 08-12-2007, 11:03 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: im dumb, help me

silentstorm <silentstorm.2v7wk3@no-mx.wirelessforums.org> hath wroth:

>ok, i know all of you are going to flame me saying im lying, blah blah,
>but help me out here


If it makes you feel any better, I've done similar screwups by remote
control before. Make a change and lose the connection. If you
haven't broken it first, you don't understand it.

>-last year my neighbor decided to bring some korean kid to stay in her
>house
>-kid brought a laptop
>-she didnt have wireless
>-she asked me to set it up
>-i had full access to the router (login, pw, etc)
>-using WPA-KIP


Good. Sounds like you did it right.

>she told me i could use it


I think she sorta implied that you also should maintain it for her in
case something went wrong.

>ive bought a laptop last month (vaio, 3945 intel wireless)


Nice. I guess Sony has given up on model numbers. Not a problem in
this case.

>i was using her wireless just fine, until i decided i wanted to tweak
>it
>i changed the channel to 11, turned on the frame burst, and it worked
>fine for a sec
>when i disconnected, then reconnected..........bam


There's your problem. Turn OFF the frame burst, trubo, afterburner,
turbot-accellerator-wiz-bang-whatchamacallit, etc. Nothing but
802.11b compatibility and basic 802.11g. Lots of cards don't handle
these gracefully, apparentely including your Intel 3945ABG. You might
be able to fix that by updating your 3945ABG wireless driver from:
<http://support.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/pro3945abg/index.htm>
Also note that Linksys turns off frame-burst by default. There's a
reason and I think you just found it.

>i refresh the AP list, and i see it, excellent strength, 4/5 bars, ya
>ya
>i refresh it again........its gone
>i refresh it,.........its there...........i try to
>connect............unable


Yep. The access point connects at ordinary 802.11g. It then tries
the higher speeds and protocols including frame burst. It fails and
you are disconnected.

>i think i hit a bad channel.........but if anyone has any other ideas,


Nope. Frame-Burst. Whatever you did last was wrong.

>let me know.......i dont want to show up to her house and be like "yo
>lemme in, i need to dick around with your router"


Keep it postive. Go to the Netgear web pile and see if there is an
update for her router, if you can remember the model number. However,
don't guess or goof. You can really trash things with the wrong
firmware image. Tell her that it can only be applied via a wired CAT5
connection, which is true. Ummm, bring your own CAT5 cable.

If you have the guts, tell her exactly what happened. You've done no
real damage, lost data, broken any laws, or cost her any money. I
think she'll understand. However, don't bother lying or embellishing
the story. That takes some acting talent and you don't have what it
takes.

It's also possible that the kid's laptop can still connect. However,
before showing up, I would get your computer act together (i.e. no
viruses, no worms, updated operating system, updated wireless
drivers). No sense in becoming part of a troubleshooting exercise.
When you have time, you also might want to fix the shift keys on your
keyboard. Don't forget the CAT5 cable.


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