Re: Need to extend LAN less than mile

Harvey wrote:
> On Jun 2, 8:34 am, seaweedsl <seaweedst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 19, 2:03 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>
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>>> On May 19, 11:53 am, seaweedsl <seaweedst...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On May 17, 8:36 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On May 17, 6:08 pm, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> since you don't have direct wiring between the locations,
>>>>>> you might think about wireless..... - x-posted to that newsgroup
>>>>>> continue at the bottom
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Harvey wrote:
>>>>>>> I am not very familiar with all the terminology.
>>>>>>> I have two locations less than a mile apart in aruralarea.
>>>>>>> I assume the phone company could (if I knew how/what to ask)
>>>>>>> make appropriate splices to give me two or more pair of copper
>>>>>>> between the two locations.
>>>>>>> Is that what a "leased line" is? Or does that go through the
>>>>>>> exchange?
>>
>>>>>>> Assuming I could get this copper between the two points, how
>>>>>>> fast could I send data between the two?
>>>>>>> I have anethernetlanon each end that I want to connect together.
>>>>>>> And of course :-) I want to do it for low cost.
>>
>>>>>>> I would simply use the internet but there is no high speed
>>>>>>> available out there inruralWestern Washington State.
>>
>>>>>>> Thank you all very much,
>>>>>>> Harvey.
>>
>>>>>> I have a friend near Randle WA - near Mt. St. Helens... no high
>>>>>> speed either
>>
>>>>>> anyway - what do you ultimately want to do ?
>>>>>> and why do you want the locations connected ?
>>
>>>>> It is for monitoring 5 cameras. The camera setup is in place and
>>>>> working over the internet using dial up, but it is too slow. The
>>>>> picture updates only about every 5 to 40 seconds. I assume that
>>>>> internet traffic is the variable. Once every two seconds or faster
>>>>> would be good.
>>
>>>>> What do you recommend for wireless through a fairly wooded area?
>>
>>>>> And again can the phone company provide a connection in the
>>>>> existing buried wiring? They always have extra pairs available,
>>>>> right? Both locations are on the same dead end road.
>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>
>>>> If you are already paying for dial-up connections in both places,
>>>> perhaps switching to satellite internet would be a solution for the
>>>> cams and give you (somewhat) improved internet access as a side-
>>>> benefit.
>>
>>>> Would cost $300-600 for equipment + $60-90 per month - for each
>>>> site.
>>
>>>> The practicality of that depends on many things, one of which is
>>>> data thruput over 24 hours. Sat plans, though often faster, are
>>>> very limited in total thruput allowed for the consumer accounts.
>>
>>>> They also have lag issues, but I doubt that would come into play
>>>> for cams.
>>
>>> Actually We tried Hughes Net on both ends and the camera techs never
>>> got it to work. The data went up okay and can be retrieved from
>>> dialup or DSL at any location, but having sattlelite links on both
>>> ends never worked.
>>> Harvey
>>
>> Oh, OK. I wonder what the problem is. I suspect it's something
>> that having a fixed IP at the receiving end would solve.
>
> Well, there is a fixed IP address at the server end. Why the receiving
> end?
> Harvey

Depends.... There is streaming video and packetized video, and the streaming
won't work on sat (even with the fixed ip's, probability is it wont, cuz of
packets and latency)... If you are using the software that came with the
camera's look to see if it is streaming or not, and maybe look at alternate
software that is made to work on packetized links (microwave/sat/cell/etc)..
Remember a sat at both ends does 2 latency laden/packetizations, and 4
latency laden transmissions.... 2 up and two down)....

Got the 1xrtt cell service there? (not as fast as evdo, but faster than
dial-up)... FWIW in Rural northern Idaho we went with cell for security
cameras (bonus, the cell phone worked real good too with the repeaters see
www.cellantenna.com to see if they would have stuff that would work for you
we used the cae50 directional yagi pointed at cell tower and a omni for use
in the house, and the kyocera routers/data cards Check out the kyocera kr1
and kr2 mobile routers at http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/pc-mobility/