Re: Netstumbler Questions

"public_varies" <public_varies@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in
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> Just started using Netstumbler on a Alfa Realtek 8187L.

Use inSSIDer:
http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inssider

Not only does it work better and provide useful information including a time
graph, the author updates it way more than never.

On 4/27/2011 8:07 PM, Seemore Grey wrote:
> "public_varies"<public_varies@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in
> message news:ba6547174552f4bfb4786fe8a95f7c96@tioat.net...
>> Just started using Netstumbler on a Alfa Realtek 8187L.
>
> Use inSSIDer:
> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inssider
>
> Not only does it work better and provide useful information including a time
> graph, the author updates it way more than never.
>
>
I agree with inSSIDer too.

It found and used the built in wireless adapter of my Lenov laptop while
Netstumbler refused to admit my laptop even had a wireless option.

I use it to troubleshoot wireless problems caused by other systems on
the same or adjacent channels and to locate idle channels when
installing new systems.

Then again it is fun to look around to see who is dumb enough to not
turn on any form of encryption...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:16:42 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
<GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote:

>On 4/27/2011 8:07 PM, Seemore Grey wrote:
>> "public_varies"<public_varies@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote in
>> message news:ba6547174552f4bfb4786fe8a95f7c96@tioat.net...
>>> Just started using Netstumbler on a Alfa Realtek 8187L.
>>
>> Use inSSIDer:
>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inssider
>>
>> Not only does it work better and provide useful information including a time
>> graph, the author updates it way more than never.
>>
>>
>I agree with inSSIDer too.
>
>It found and used the built in wireless adapter of my Lenov laptop while
>Netstumbler refused to admit my laptop even had a wireless option.
>
>I use it to troubleshoot wireless problems caused by other systems on
>the same or adjacent channels and to locate idle channels when
>installing new systems.
>
>Then again it is fun to look around to see who is dumb enough to not
>turn on any form of encryption...

I accidentally left inSSIDer running when I recently ran an errand. I
had to drive past houses, apartment complexes, and some businesses
during the 5 mile round trip. When I got home, I discovered over 800
SSIDs listed so for me the fun was scrolling through the list to see
the funny, outrageous, profane, and creative names people had given
their networks.

"GlowingBlueMist" <GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 4/27/2011 8:07 PM, Seemore Grey wrote:
>> "public_varies"<public_varies@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote
>> in
>> message news:ba6547174552f4bfb4786fe8a95f7c96@tioat.net...
>>> Just started using Netstumbler on a Alfa Realtek 8187L.
>>
>> Use inSSIDer:
>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inssider
>>
>> Not only does it work better and provide useful information including a
>> time
>> graph, the author updates it way more than never.
>>
>>
> I agree with inSSIDer too.
>
> It found and used the built in wireless adapter of my Lenov laptop while
> Netstumbler refused to admit my laptop even had a wireless option.

That's strange! What laptop, what wireless adapter?


> I use it to troubleshoot wireless problems caused by other systems on the
> same or adjacent channels and to locate idle channels when installing new
> systems.
>
> Then again it is fun to look around to see who is dumb enough to not turn
> on any form of encryption...

I haven't used Netstumbler in 16~20 months. I don't remember having any
problem with it. According to Wikipedia NetStumbler had a 6 year run and it
really wasn't until inSSIDer showed up that we realized what it was missing.

On 4/28/2011 8:01 PM, Seemore Grey wrote:
> "GlowingBlueMist"<GlowingBlueMist@itruely.inva lid> wrote in message
> news:ipbpcp$ofn$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/27/2011 8:07 PM, Seemore Grey wrote:
>>> "public_varies"<public_varies@Use-Author-Supplied-Address.invalid> wrote
>>> in
>>> message news:ba6547174552f4bfb4786fe8a95f7c96@tioat.net...
>>>> Just started using Netstumbler on a Alfa Realtek 8187L.
>>>
>>> Use inSSIDer:
>>> http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inssider
>>>
>>> Not only does it work better and provide useful information including a
>>> time
>>> graph, the author updates it way more than never.
>>>
>>>
>> I agree with inSSIDer too.
>>
>> It found and used the built in wireless adapter of my Lenov laptop while
>> Netstumbler refused to admit my laptop even had a wireless option.
>
> That's strange! What laptop, what wireless adapter?
>
>
>> I use it to troubleshoot wireless problems caused by other systems on the
>> same or adjacent channels and to locate idle channels when installing new
>> systems.
>>
>> Then again it is fun to look around to see who is dumb enough to not turn
>> on any form of encryption...
>
> I haven't used Netstumbler in 16~20 months. I don't remember having any
> problem with it. According to Wikipedia NetStumbler had a 6 year run and it
> really wasn't until inSSIDer showed up that we realized what it was missing.
>
>

I have a Lenov 3000 G530 running Windows 7 with a Broadcom 802.11g
Network Adapter.

It's possible I may have missed something in the Netstumbler setup
somewhere but I gave up after a couple of hours trying to make it work.

Most likely the problem was a lack of support for the Broadcom chip set
used in my wireless adapter. Sure I could have spent the money to buy a
different wireless adapter but since inSSIDER worked right the first
time I loaded it I figured why waste the money.

If/when a new version of Netstumbler is released I will give it another
try but until then I'll use what works with my existing hardware.