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Old 07-21-2006, 06:18 PM
John Navas
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On 21 Jul 2006 17:00:35 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<e9r17j0105v@news2.newsguy.com>:

>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:42:16 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>| On 19 Jul 2006 18:10:07 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
>| <e9lshv0ai6@news2.newsguy.com>:
>|
>|>Will the Netgear WGPS606 communicate wirelessly with the Netgear WGT624?
>|
>| According to the Netgear WGPS606 web page:
>|
>| Works with all standard 802.11g and 802.1b wireless routers and
>| access points
>|
>| That includes the WGT624.
>
>I think I need to revise my question:
>
>Will the Netgear WGPS606 communicate wirelessly with TWO different WGT624
>devices at the same time?


No. A Wi-Fi network can only have *one* access point (central
controller).

>I have found that the nameless bridge I am playing with will only talk to
>ONE of the WGT624's at a time. Whichever WGT624 it find first makes the
>other one unreachable. Maybe this is a limitation of that bridge such as
>no more than one MAC at a time on the wireless side? Or maybe that is
>part of the standard?


Standard and normal.

>The big question is if the WGPS606 has this limitation.


It does. All other Wi-Fi gear does too.

1. Please, please don't start more threads -- too hard to follow.

2. Be specific about what you're trying to do in network terms. We can
tell you what gear you need once we know *exactly* what you're trying to
do.

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Old 07-21-2006, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On 21 Jul 2006 21:38:09 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<e9rhg111m3u@news2.newsguy.com>:

>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:18:27 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>| On 21 Jul 2006 17:00:35 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
>| <e9r17j0105v@news2.newsguy.com>:


>|>Will the Netgear WGPS606 communicate wirelessly with TWO different WGT624
>|>devices at the same time?


>| No. A Wi-Fi network can only have *one* access point (central
>| controller).


>The wiki you have says all wireless is bridging. I guess it isn't.


Again, you're confusing *network* (bridging) with wireless *connection*
(star).

Much like a wired Ethernet hub or switch, a WLAN (wireless LAN,
infrastructure point-to-multipoint) consists of one and only one central
controller (wireless access point) plus one or more wireless clients.
That central controller is a network bridge, just as the wiki states..

>|>The big question is if the WGPS606 has this limitation.
>|
>| It does. All other Wi-Fi gear does too.
>
>So how do I get more than 2 things to talk to each other?
>
>Say maybe in
>a structure like:
>
>*-*--*-*
> | |
> * *
>
>where everything is wireless and the "--" is a particularly long path
>that all but the two *'s connected by it cannot necessarily see each
>other.


The standard WLAN architecture is a star topology, usually connected to
a wired Ethernet:


WAP<--Ethernet-->
/|\
/ | \
WC WC WC

Different LANs and WLANs can be interconnected with

* Wires:

WAP<--Ethernet-->WAP
/|\ /|\
/ | \ / | \
WC WC WC WC WC WC

* WDS (Wireless Distribution System):

WAP<--Ethernet-->
/|\
/ | \
WC WC WDS
/|\
/ | \
WC WC WC

* Wireless Point-To-Point Bridge (to which WLANs can be connected)

Ethernet<-->WPTPB----------WPTPB<-->Ethernet


>| 2. Be specific about what you're trying to do in network terms. We can
>| tell you what gear you need once we know *exactly* what you're trying to
>| do.
>
>I'd rather have documentation that makes it clear to figure this out on
>my own. I want to know that there was something I SHOULD have read to
>have made the correct purchase, ... or that no such thing yet exists.


Read Wikipedia and the wikis below. Lots of helpful links.

The problem is that you're trying to do something beyond normal consumer
networking, so it's inevitably going to get complicated if you're not
willing to pay (or beg) an expert to do it for you.

You should decide whether you want to (a) debate terminology or (b) get
your network working. I'm happy to help with (b), but don't really have
the time for (a).

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Old 07-22-2006, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:06 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

| Read Wikipedia and the wikis below. Lots of helpful links.
|
| The problem is that you're trying to do something beyond normal consumer
| networking, so it's inevitably going to get complicated if you're not
| willing to pay (or beg) an expert to do it for you.
|
| You should decide whether you want to (a) debate terminology or (b) get
| your network working. I'm happy to help with (b), but don't really have
| the time for (a).

Here's how I think you can help, not me particularly (although had you done
this before AND had I done my research and found it, this would have saved
some confusion). Put SOMETHING on your wiki that explains that the Netgear
WGT624 _will_ have the limitations of an access point. Maybe you could do
this simply enough by explaining that the Netgear WGT624 _is_ an access
point. The Netgear website DOES NOT. The PDF data sheet for the WGT624
DOES NOT. Those failures by Netgear are certainly not your fault. But I
believe your wiki could be substantially more helpful to people if it
explained specific models of products from specific vendors and what roles
in a WLAN those models could or must operate. Maybe start a specific page
for each wireless device model on the market. Then on that page all the
features ... and misfeatures ... of that model can be made available. Then
people can find out things they really want to know without having to sift
the all the sales BS. I suppose I could start my own wiki. But you
already have a very good start. And while your wiki is open to public
update, I don't think it's my role to substantially update its structure.

I haven't really lost anything in all this due to not knowing what I have
learned after the fact. I still need to have 2 wireless broadband routers.
I know now NOT to buy a 3rd one, and instead, to get a WCB. For now, the
no-model bridge I have gets minimal things working and I can put off buying
a decent WCB.

However, having learned about a lot of limitations of the standarized
technology and of the various models being made, I believe it would have
been a better choice to have bought the Linksys WRT54G or WRT54GL. This
would be so that I can hack my own firmware. I'm going to take the
WGT624's back for refund, and get a pair of WRT54G's instead, maybe just
one of them for now, and a WET54G (if I can find a place that sells them).

Is there any reason I should get a WRT54GL instead of a WRT54G?

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Old 07-22-2006, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:06 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

| * WDS (Wireless Distribution System):
|
| WAP<--Ethernet-->
| /|\
| / | \
| WC WC WDS
| /|\
| / | \
| WC WC WC

Would this work?

____WDS____
/ | \
/ | \
WAP WAP WAP
/|\ /|\ /|\
/ | \ / | \ / | \
WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC

Or would it have to be more like this?

WDS-WDS-WDS
/ | \
/ | \
WAP WAP WAP
/|\ /|\ /|\
/ | \ / | \ / | \
WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC


| * Wireless Point-To-Point Bridge (to which WLANs can be connected)
|
| Ethernet<-->WPTPB----------WPTPB<-->Ethernet

Any known models of this that exist?

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Old 07-23-2006, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On 22 Jul 2006 22:52:43 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<e9ua7r1113o@news4.newsguy.com>:

>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:06 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>| * WDS (Wireless Distribution System):
>|
>| WAP<--Ethernet-->
>| /|\
>| / | \
>| WC WC WDS
>| /|\
>| / | \
>| WC WC WC
>
>Would this work?
>
> ____WDS____
> / | \
> / | \
> WAP WAP WAP
> /|\ /|\ /|\
> / | \ / | \ / | \
> WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC
>
>Or would it have to be more like this?
>
> WDS-WDS-WDS
> / | \
> / | \
> WAP WAP WAP
> /|\ /|\ /|\
> / | \ / | \ / | \
> WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC


WDS is simply a WAP repeater for connections by wireless *clients* (WC),
so it will only work in the kind of topology I described. Think of WDS
as a kind of WAP.

>| * Wireless Point-To-Point Bridge (to which WLANs can be connected)
>|
>| Ethernet<-->WPTPB----------WPTPB<-->Ethernet
>
>Any known models of this that exist?


Sure. Already posted some. The easy ways are:

Ethernet<-->WAP----------WCB<-->Ethernet

or

Ethernet<-->WCB----------WAP<-->Ethernet

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Old 07-23-2006, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On 22 Jul 2006 22:45:49 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<e9u9qt0113o@news4.newsguy.com>:

>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:06 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>| Read Wikipedia and the wikis below. Lots of helpful links.
>|
>| The problem is that you're trying to do something beyond normal consumer
>| networking, so it's inevitably going to get complicated if you're not
>| willing to pay (or beg) an expert to do it for you.
>|
>| You should decide whether you want to (a) debate terminology or (b) get
>| your network working. I'm happy to help with (b), but don't really have
>| the time for (a).
>
>Here's how I think you can help, not me particularly (although had you done
>this before AND had I done my research and found it, this would have saved
>some confusion). Put SOMETHING on your wiki that explains that the Netgear
>WGT624 _will_ have the limitations of an access point.


It's not *my* wiki -- it's *our* wiki. I just started it and did most
of the work on it thus far. The essence of a wiki is that *anyone* can
contribute. Including you. ;)

>Maybe you could do
>this simply enough by explaining that the Netgear WGT624 _is_ an access
>point. The Netgear website DOES NOT. The PDF data sheet for the WGT624
>DOES NOT. Those failures by Netgear are certainly not your fault.


There's no failure. The WGT624 is a wireless router, as Netgear clearly
states, which is a combination of (a) a wired router and (b) a wireless
access point.

>But I
>believe your wiki could be substantially more helpful to people if it
>explained specific models of products from specific vendors and what roles
>in a WLAN those models could or must operate. Maybe start a specific page
>for each wireless device model on the market. Then on that page all the
>features ... and misfeatures ... of that model can be made available. Then
>people can find out things they really want to know without having to sift
>the all the sales BS.


Impractical in the general case, because there are simply too many
products on the market. Worse, for many of these products there are
many different versions that are really different products.

>I suppose I could start my own wiki. But you
>already have a very good start. And while your wiki is open to public
>update, I don't think it's my role to substantially update its structure.


Again, it's not *my* wiki -- it's *our* wiki. I just started it and did
most of the work on it thus far. The essence of a wiki is that *anyone*
can contribute. Including you. ;)

>I haven't really lost anything in all this due to not knowing what I have
>learned after the fact. I still need to have 2 wireless broadband routers.
>I know now NOT to buy a 3rd one, and instead, to get a WCB. For now, the
>no-model bridge I have gets minimal things working and I can put off buying
>a decent WCB.


A better WCB can be made with third-party firmware (e.g., DD-WRT) and an
appropriate wireless broadband router, which may well be cheaper and
better than a "decent WCB."

>However, having learned about a lot of limitations of the standarized
>technology and of the various models being made, I believe it would have
>been a better choice to have bought the Linksys WRT54G or WRT54GL. This
>would be so that I can hack my own firmware. I'm going to take the
>WGT624's back for refund, and get a pair of WRT54G's instead, maybe just
>one of them for now, and a WET54G (if I can find a place that sells them).


Good plan.

>Is there any reason I should get a WRT54GL instead of a WRT54G?


Compare them here: < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G>

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Old 07-23-2006, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:37:18 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 22 Jul 2006 22:45:49 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
| <e9u9qt0113o@news4.newsguy.com>:
|
|>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:06 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
|>
|>| Read Wikipedia and the wikis below. Lots of helpful links.
|>|
|>| The problem is that you're trying to do something beyond normal consumer
|>| networking, so it's inevitably going to get complicated if you're not
|>| willing to pay (or beg) an expert to do it for you.
|>|
|>| You should decide whether you want to (a) debate terminology or (b) get
|>| your network working. I'm happy to help with (b), but don't really have
|>| the time for (a).
|>
|>Here's how I think you can help, not me particularly (although had you done
|>this before AND had I done my research and found it, this would have saved
|>some confusion). Put SOMETHING on your wiki that explains that the Netgear
|>WGT624 _will_ have the limitations of an access point.
|
| It's not *my* wiki -- it's *our* wiki. I just started it and did most
| of the work on it thus far. The essence of a wiki is that *anyone* can
| contribute. Including you. ;)
|
|>Maybe you could do
|>this simply enough by explaining that the Netgear WGT624 _is_ an access
|>point. The Netgear website DOES NOT. The PDF data sheet for the WGT624
|>DOES NOT. Those failures by Netgear are certainly not your fault.
|
| There's no failure. The WGT624 is a wireless router, as Netgear clearly
| states, which is a combination of (a) a wired router and (b) a wireless
| access point.

Neither "wireless" nor "router" alone implies an access point. Combining
them does? No. Combining terms means the concepts are combined. But
there is no implicit synergy that says it must be an access point. You
could, for example, combine a router with a bridge. It would still have
wireless functionality. It would have router functionality.

Indeed, Netgear never said the WGT624 was an access point.


|>But I
|>believe your wiki could be substantially more helpful to people if it
|>explained specific models of products from specific vendors and what roles
|>in a WLAN those models could or must operate. Maybe start a specific page
|>for each wireless device model on the market. Then on that page all the
|>features ... and misfeatures ... of that model can be made available. Then
|>people can find out things they really want to know without having to sift
|>the all the sales BS.
|
| Impractical in the general case, because there are simply too many
| products on the market. Worse, for many of these products there are
| many different versions that are really different products.

The more products there are, the more reason to do so. A wiki is also just
the right kind of means to do it, since it is a great tool for public input.


|>I suppose I could start my own wiki. But you
|>already have a very good start. And while your wiki is open to public
|>update, I don't think it's my role to substantially update its structure.
|
| Again, it's not *my* wiki -- it's *our* wiki. I just started it and did
| most of the work on it thus far. The essence of a wiki is that *anyone*
| can contribute. Including you. ;)

And if someone, maybe I, puts in pages for specific products, including an
index page to those products?

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Old 07-23-2006, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:28:00 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 22 Jul 2006 22:52:43 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
| <e9ua7r1113o@news4.newsguy.com>:
|
|>On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:55:06 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
|>
|>| * WDS (Wireless Distribution System):
|>|
|>| WAP<--Ethernet-->
|>| /|\
|>| / | \
|>| WC WC WDS
|>| /|\
|>| / | \
|>| WC WC WC
|>
|>Would this work?
|>
|> ____WDS____
|> / | \
|> / | \
|> WAP WAP WAP
|> /|\ /|\ /|\
|> / | \ / | \ / | \
|> WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC
|>
|>Or would it have to be more like this?
|>
|> WDS-WDS-WDS
|> / | \
|> / | \
|> WAP WAP WAP
|> /|\ /|\ /|\
|> / | \ / | \ / | \
|> WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC WC
|
| WDS is simply a WAP repeater for connections by wireless *clients* (WC),
| so it will only work in the kind of topology I described. Think of WDS
| as a kind of WAP.

I guess if I get a WRT54GL I get to make up my own concepts, as long as
the _hardware_ part of the radio doesn't impose the "gender" concepts of
wireless into the transmission or reception of a radio frame.


|>| * Wireless Point-To-Point Bridge (to which WLANs can be connected)
|>|
|>| Ethernet<-->WPTPB----------WPTPB<-->Ethernet
|>
|>Any known models of this that exist?
|
| Sure. Already posted some. The easy ways are:
|
| Ethernet<-->WAP----------WCB<-->Ethernet
|
| or
|
| Ethernet<-->WCB----------WAP<-->Ethernet

But I am looking for a device that can peer with an identical copy of
itself. Specifically, (I want to) build a network consisting of exactly
ONE single model type, same firmware in that model, that can do all the
things that could be done with 10base5, where the wireless device is in
the equivalent role of the AUI or an AUI based media converter. Looks
like the WRT54GL is the way to go to build it as the makers of firmware
in most commercial devices are limited in what they can do (most likely
limited by management/marketing edict than their own engineering skills).

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Old 07-24-2006, 03:27 PM
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On 23 Jul 2006 19:16:26 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<ea0hua02sdr@news3.newsguy.com>:

>On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:37:18 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:


>|>But I
>|>believe your wiki could be substantially more helpful to people if it
>|>explained specific models of products from specific vendors and what roles
>|>in a WLAN those models could or must operate. Maybe start a specific page
>|>for each wireless device model on the market. Then on that page all the
>|>features ... and misfeatures ... of that model can be made available. Then
>|>people can find out things they really want to know without having to sift
>|>the all the sales BS.
>|
>| Impractical in the general case, because there are simply too many
>| products on the market. Worse, for many of these products there are
>| many different versions that are really different products.
>
>The more products there are, the more reason to do so. A wiki is also just
>the right kind of means to do it, since it is a great tool for public input.


I said it's impractical because my experience is that trying to create
and maintain individual pages for a plethora of similar products doesn't
tend to work very well due to wildly different levels of
comprehensiveness, accuracy, style, and quality. That also tends to
decrease the value of the overall resource because of the way it
frustrates the audience.

>|>I suppose I could start my own wiki. But you
>|>already have a very good start. And while your wiki is open to public
>|>update, I don't think it's my role to substantially update its structure.
>|
>| Again, it's not *my* wiki -- it's *our* wiki. I just started it and did
>| most of the work on it thus far. The essence of a wiki is that *anyone*
>| can contribute. Including you. ;)
>
>And if someone, maybe I, puts in pages for specific products, including an
>index page to those products?


I have no objection to any content that's of value and is consistent
with the objectives and guidelines of the Wireless Wiki as set forth in
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Contents> and
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wireless_Wiki:Community_Portal> -- and
as long as there's a likelihood that it will be kept up to date.
(I more than have my hands full with the existing structure, so I don't
want to take on more myself.) I don't speak for Jeff (the other sysop
of the Wireless Wiki), but I think he feels the same way. Why don't you
rough out something so we can see what you have in mind and what would
need to be done to integrate it properly?

Be warned that many products have major version variations that are
really different products, making it difficult to generalize about the
product. For example, the Netgear WGR614 has seven (7) different
versions. <http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/wgr614.asp> states:
"Versions are similar in the way they work, but firmware is not always
interchangeable!" (That's "similar", not "the same".)

Is <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> the kind of thing you have in
mind? If so, Wikipedia may be another venue you may want to consider.

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Old 07-24-2006, 03:29 PM
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On 23 Jul 2006 19:32:29 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
<ea0isd02t60@news3.newsguy.com>:

>On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:28:00 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:


>| WDS is simply a WAP repeater for connections by wireless *clients* (WC),
>| so it will only work in the kind of topology I described. Think of WDS
>| as a kind of WAP.
>
>I guess if I get a WRT54GL I get to make up my own concepts, as long as
>the _hardware_ part of the radio doesn't impose the "gender" concepts of
>wireless into the transmission or reception of a radio frame.


Yep. That's the beauty of open source product and unlicensed spectrum.

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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:29:00 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
| On 23 Jul 2006 19:32:29 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
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|>On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 03:28:00 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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|>| WDS is simply a WAP repeater for connections by wireless *clients* (WC),
|>| so it will only work in the kind of topology I described. Think of WDS
|>| as a kind of WAP.
|>
|>I guess if I get a WRT54GL I get to make up my own concepts, as long as
|>the _hardware_ part of the radio doesn't impose the "gender" concepts of
|>wireless into the transmission or reception of a radio frame.
|
| Yep. That's the beauty of open source product and unlicensed spectrum.

And I might try out my "per source spanning tree" method on it. It would
be something more practical than its original intent for a mesh of IRC
servers.

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Old 07-24-2006, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: Revised: Netgear WGPS606 <-> 2x Netgear WGT624it

On 24 Jul 2006 17:44:46 GMT, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote in
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>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:27:05 GMT John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>| Is <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54G> the kind of thing you have in
>| mind? If so, Wikipedia may be another venue you may want to consider.
>
>It might well be better to just put them on Wikipedia, and create a list
>page for them. Then you could link to them when referencing a specific
>model or version.


Doing that already for the WRT54G:
<http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi#Linksys>

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