Re: Wireless Router Can't See Wireless Device

M.L. wrote:
>
>>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>>as an access point.
>>
>>The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
>>point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
>>you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
>>to be configured as a client.
>
>
> Ok, I set the SMCWTVG mode as a Wireless Client. Here is what the
> manual states about that mode:
>
> <quote>
> The configuration of wireless settings is available in Gateway Mode
> and Access Point Mode only.
> ...
> To access a wireless network in Wireless Client mode, connect your PC
> to the LAN port and then set your PC’s network connection to DHCP. In
> Wireless Client mode, the Personal Mobile Gateway acts as a DHCP
> server to assign IP address settings to one client connected on the
> LAN port. Use the default IP address, 192.168.2.1, to access the web
> management interface. Using the Setup Wizard or from the Mode Config
> page, you can then set up a connection to a nearby access point.
> </quote>
>
> So I changed the SMCWTVG's gateway IP to 192.168.2.1, and it connects
> to my LAN connection using DHCP. However, it knocks out my wireless
> laptop connection to the Netgear. I get my wireless Internet
> connection back only if I disable the LAN connection. Does that make
> sense?
>
>
>>Other random suggestions:
>>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>>for each.
>>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.
>
>
> I can't do any of those things in Wireless Client mode since the
> wireless settings are not available in that mode. I also notice that
> the wireless indicator light is unlit in Wireless Client mode.


Hi,

Sorry to jump in on this thread.

From one of your posts, your "wireless router" is a "Comcast Netgear
Wireless Cable Modem Gateway CG814WG".

I'm assuming that means that the CG814WG came from Comcast, and has a
built-in cablemodem. So, the CG814WG needs to plug into the Comcast
COAX on the "WAN side".

And, set that CG814WG up as a wireless router, with the DHCP server
enabled, and set a SID, encryption type/key, etc.

Now, your ATA is a "SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA".

*Physically* connect the ethernet (RJ45) port of the SMCWTG to one of
the 4 RJ45 ports on the CG814WG using a ethernet cable, then, set the
SMCWTVG up as an Access Point.

For the SMCWTG's "wireless" or "LAN" side:

- You'll need to set the SSID, encryption type/key, etc., and

For the "WAN" side of the SMCWTG, you'll need to either:

- Set the SMCWTG WAN side to a fixed IP above the range of IPs that the
CG814WG DHCP server will server, or
- Set the "WAN" side of the SMCWTG to just get an IP address from the
CG814WG.


Then (and I'm assuming that you have an ATA because you have a phone and
are using VOIP), then, plug an analog phone into the analog phone port
on the SMCWTG.


So, what you end up with is:


Phone ======> SMCWTG ======> CG815WG =======> Comcast coax


That's probably the way that I'd do it, anyway.

Here's a nice picture of the SMCWTG setup:

http://nguyenthanhtelecom.vn/images/.../SMCWTVG-1.jpg

In the above picture, the blue cloud labelled "Internet" is essentially
your CG815WG, in your case.

Now, I don't know if there is a way to connect the SMCWTG to the CG814WG
wirelessly (i.e., with a non-cabled, wireless connection from the SMCWTG
to the CG814WG). There may be, but I haven't worked with either of
these products, so I don't know (I've worked with some other SMC
equipment, and their terminology seems to be somewhat non-standard).

I think that to do this, the SMCWTG would have to be able to function
simultaneously as an Access Point and as a Wireless client. As I said,
I don't know if it can do that, but maybe that's what that's what SMC
calls "Gateway"?

Anyway, I hope that this helps.

Later,
Jim

>>Now, your ATA is a "SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA".
>>
>>*Physically* connect the ethernet (RJ45) port of the SMCWTG to one of
>>the 4 RJ45 ports on the CG814WG using a ethernet cable, then, set the
>>SMCWTVG up as an Access Point.
>
>
> The Comcast Netgear router is located in a room upstairs while the
> SMCWTVG is in a downstairs room, so there can be no direct connection
> between the two. I bought the SMCWTVG in order to connect them
> wirelessly.


Hi,

You may not be able to do that (wireless from SMC==>CG814WG) with the
SMCWTVG (see the image I linked). I don't know for sure, because I
haven't worked with it, but that image seems to show hardwire connection
from the SMCWTVG to the "Internet".

If you hardwire the SMCWTVG to the CG814WG, both "upstairs", and plug a
cordless phone into the SMCWTVG analop phone port, that will let you use
your phone(s) for voice wirelessly (probably want to get one of the
newer DECT/5GHz phone systems to avoid interference).

The only thing not good about this is that both the SMCWTVG and CG814WG
would be physically close to each other, so you don't get to have a
larger wireless coverage for data.

Jim

ohaya wrote:

>>> Now, your ATA is a "SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA".
>>>
>>> *Physically* connect the ethernet (RJ45) port of the SMCWTG to one of
>>> the 4 RJ45 ports on the CG814WG using a ethernet cable, then, set the
>>> SMCWTVG up as an Access Point.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Comcast Netgear router is located in a room upstairs while the
>> SMCWTVG is in a downstairs room, so there can be no direct connection
>> between the two. I bought the SMCWTVG in order to connect them
>> wirelessly.
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> You may not be able to do that (wireless from SMC==>CG814WG) with the
> SMCWTVG (see the image I linked). I don't know for sure, because I
> haven't worked with it, but that image seems to show hardwire connection
> from the SMCWTVG to the "Internet".
>
> If you hardwire the SMCWTVG to the CG814WG, both "upstairs", and plug a
> cordless phone into the SMCWTVG analop phone port, that will let you use
> your phone(s) for voice wirelessly (probably want to get one of the
> newer DECT/5GHz phone systems to avoid interference).
>
> The only thing not good about this is that both the SMCWTVG and CG814WG
> would be physically close to each other, so you don't get to have a
> larger wireless coverage for data.
>
> Jim
>

Hi,

P.S. Why not just call or email SMC tech support and ask them if the
SMCWTVG can do what you're looking for, and, if so, how?

Jim

M.L. wrote:
>
>>>>>Now, your ATA is a "SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA".
>>>>>
>>>>>*Physically* connect the ethernet (RJ45) port of the SMCWTG to one of
>>>>>the 4 RJ45 ports on the CG814WG using a ethernet cable, then, set the
>>>>>SMCWTVG up as an Access Point.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Comcast Netgear router is located in a room upstairs while the
>>>>SMCWTVG is in a downstairs room, so there can be no direct connection
>>>>between the two. I bought the SMCWTVG in order to connect them
>>>>wirelessly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>You may not be able to do that (wireless from SMC==>CG814WG) with the
>>>SMCWTVG (see the image I linked). I don't know for sure, because I
>>>haven't worked with it, but that image seems to show hardwire connection
>>>from the SMCWTVG to the "Internet".
>>>
>>>If you hardwire the SMCWTVG to the CG814WG, both "upstairs", and plug a
>>>cordless phone into the SMCWTVG analop phone port, that will let you use
>>>your phone(s) for voice wirelessly (probably want to get one of the
>>>newer DECT/5GHz phone systems to avoid interference).
>>>
>>>The only thing not good about this is that both the SMCWTVG and CG814WG
>>>would be physically close to each other, so you don't get to have a
>>>larger wireless coverage for data.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>P.S. Why not just call or email SMC tech support and ask them if the
>>SMCWTVG can do what you're looking for, and, if so, how?
>
>
> I called before and they told me the SMCWTVG was too old for tech
> support.


Hi,

Hah :)! I guess that we're kind of in "the same boat" :(... I had just
posted their support a question about a problem that I have with a
different SMC device (an SMCWAPS-G), and that was the same response I
got from them. Thanks a lot SMC :(!!

Jim

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:31:58 -0500, M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>As a close to this thread I am happy to report that my Dlink DPH-541
>WiFi Phone arrived today and it installed and worked flawlessly. It
>immediately found my router and accepted an IP, and all I had to do
>was enter the Gizmo5 VOIP SIP info to receive free inbound calls and
>make 1.9¢/minute outbound calls, all in less than 30 minutes. I plan
>to switch my outbound carrier to Future-Nine, which charges about
>1.0¢/minute. Thanks again to all who replied.

I'm currently a user of both Gizmo5 and Future-Nine.com. Also Skype
and some private Asterisk servers.

Gizmo5 has some of the worst customer service on the planet. Two
attempts to sign up for the their service has resulted in billing
confusion, delayed activation, and signing up for stuff I didn't
order. At this time, I use it only for outgoing calls. It works
well, but be careful with the billing.
<http://www.dslreports.com/comment/3439/74700>
<

Future-Nine.com is probably the cheapest SIP provider available. I've
been a customer for about a year, and am quite happy with the service.
I pay $75/year for 300 minutes/month. It doesn't get much cheaper. I
haven't had any downtime, except when something along the path gets
constipated. That's the real problem as their servers are in New
York, Miami, and Amsterdam. The owner (Nitzan Kon) was considering a
left coast server several months ago, but I've heard nothing.
<http://www.dslreports.com/comments/3245?1=1&p=1>
(35 positive, 0 negative)

The only connection to Wi-Fi is that I have a Linksys SPA921 that I
sometimes connect to a butchered Linksys WRT54GL and battery pack
setup as a wireless client bridge to make calls. It's not very
portable but very useful for making cheap calls in some really odd
locations, where the users want something resembling a real POTS
phone.

Please let us know how the DPH-541 wi-fi phone works for you. I would
especially like to know how well it works in marginal locations (long
range, high reflections, plenty of intereference, etc).


I just plugged the wrong power supply into a PAP2. Smoke and several
charred components. I hate days like this.