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Old 08-28-2006, 05:27 PM
Herbert Grünzig
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Default Repeater is working, yet no connection

Hi all,

with an access point which is configured as a repeater, I'm trying to extend
the range of a wireless router (also see my post a few days ago). I have
managed to get the signal strengthened, so I assume that the AP is working
well. However, my notebook cannot access the internet through the extended
signal, only through the original signal. Can anybody think of a good reason
for this behaviour?

Thanks!
Herbert



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Old 08-28-2006, 07:09 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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"Herbert Grünzig" <noemail@blackhole.com> hath wroth:

>with an access point which is configured as a repeater, I'm trying to extend
>the range of a wireless router (also see my post a few days ago). I have
>managed to get the signal strengthened, so I assume that the AP is working
>well. However, my notebook cannot access the internet through the extended
>signal, only through the original signal. Can anybody think of a good reason
>for this behaviour?


Fill in the blanks:

with an [maker and model number] access point which is configured as a
repeater, I'm trying to extend the range of a [maker and model number]
wireless router (also see my post a few days ago) [article number]. I
have managed to get the signal strengthened [how have you
"strengthened" the signal?] , so I assume that the AP is working well
[how do you know it's working?]. However, my notebook cannot access
the internet through the extended signal, only through the original
signal. Can anybody think of a good reason for this behaviour?

Sure.
1. Your unspecified models hardware are incompatible. This is a
common problem with repeaters, range extenders, and marketing
buzzwords.

2. You have MAC address filtering enabled in your unspecified
wireless router. You need to add the repeater's MAC address.

3. You have WPA encryption enabled. WPA and repeaters don't seem to
coexist.

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Old 08-29-2006, 09:21 AM
Herbert Grünzig
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Default Re: Repeater is working, yet no connection


Hi Jeff,

here's the missing data:

Previous Posting: news:ecjrh6$t28$1@news.sap-ag.de
DSL-Router: DI-624 (AirPlus XtremeG, 801.11g, compatible to .11b)
Access Point: DWL-700 AP

When I configure the AP as a repeater, it sometimes works well, then I
reveive a strong ("strengthened") signal. That's why I mentioned I suppose
it's working well.

Your answers you were giving:
1) probably, is there an overview where I could see if they are?
2) no MAC filtering
3) no encryption

Thanks a lot so far!
Herbert



"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
news:n1c6f2tgsnm4uitvg3c9slb2cbr6ppllla@4ax.com...
> "Herbert Grünzig" <noemail@blackhole.com> hath wroth:
>
>>with an access point which is configured as a repeater, I'm trying to
>>extend
>>the range of a wireless router (also see my post a few days ago). I have
>>managed to get the signal strengthened, so I assume that the AP is working
>>well. However, my notebook cannot access the internet through the extended
>>signal, only through the original signal. Can anybody think of a good
>>reason
>>for this behaviour?

>
> Fill in the blanks:
>
> with an [maker and model number] access point which is configured as a
> repeater, I'm trying to extend the range of a [maker and model number]
> wireless router (also see my post a few days ago) [article number]. I
> have managed to get the signal strengthened [how have you
> "strengthened" the signal?] , so I assume that the AP is working well
> [how do you know it's working?]. However, my notebook cannot access
> the internet through the extended signal, only through the original
> signal. Can anybody think of a good reason for this behaviour?
>
> Sure.
> 1. Your unspecified models hardware are incompatible. This is a
> common problem with repeaters, range extenders, and marketing
> buzzwords.
>
> 2. You have MAC address filtering enabled in your unspecified
> wireless router. You need to add the repeater's MAC address.
>
> 3. You have WPA encryption enabled. WPA and repeaters don't seem to
> coexist.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558




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Old 08-29-2006, 05:28 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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"Herbert Grünzig" <noemail@blackhole.com> hath wroth:

>Previous Posting: news:ecjrh6$t28$1@news.sap-ag.de
>DSL-Router: DI-624 (AirPlus XtremeG, 801.11g, compatible to .11b)
>Access Point: DWL-700 AP
>
>When I configure the AP as a repeater, it sometimes works well,


The "sometimes" is an important clue. The DWL-700AP has a built in
DHCP server. If there is another DHCP server in the system, this MUST
be turned off in order for things to work. The default is off, but
it's worth checking.
http://support.dlink.com/emulators/d...p/gettime2.htm

Check the log files on both the router and the repeater for clues.

>then I
>reveive a strong ("strengthened") signal. That's why I mentioned I suppose
>it's working well.


OK. That means you're hearing the DWL-700AP and that the SSID's are
correct. You can only view the log pages in the DWL-700AP from a
wired connection to the ethernet port. Check the log pages for
problems.

>1) probably, is there an overview where I could see if they are?


The DLink support web site has some information on repeater and range
stretcher compatibility. You might want to review all the applicable
articles:
| http://support.dlink.com/products/vi...id=DWL%2D700AP
Unfortunately, there's nothing about repeater compatibility such as
what they list with other repeater products.

Also, check that you have the latest firmware.

How to setup repeater mode in the DWL-700AP
| http://support.dlink.com/products/vi...id=DWL%2D700AP

My usual pitch line is that repeaters only work with access points and
routers that use the same chipsets. The DI-624 uses an Atheros AR5002
while I think (not sure) that the DWL-700AP uses an ADMtek ADM8628. In
general, the vendor difference is an invitation for a problem, but
I've been suprised by allegedly incompatible chipsets working just
fine.

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