I have a device I want to put on the LAN (an Xbox v. 1), so it can get
RSS feeds from outside as well as access my SMB shares locally. It only
has a hardwore ethernet jack and no slots. It also would be impractical
to run an ethernet cable to it, so it'll have to be a wireless <->
ethernet bridge. To that end, I got a router which supports "bridge"
mode, an Actiontec MI424WR (revision D). There's another one in the house
(earlier revision though), so the interface is familiar.
The manual says that to make it an IP bridge, I need to set it to have
no IP address. (Actually, it says that having no IP address is useful
when configuring it as a bridge.) Fair enough. However, the message
it pops up before it does that scares me. It says: "Configuring an
internal connection to have no IP address will make it inaccessible".
I can see that.
2. If it is necessary, how do I access the router afterward?
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That's what you're trying to do is make it transparent to the rest of
the network. It would still be visible if you know the IP address. In
the worst case, you could physically reset the device to default specs.
You don't HAVE to let DHCP handle the bridge IP.I have a bridge set to a
fixed IP address and it works fine in my network, just make sure the
number won't conflict with your DHCP server. For example, I have my
access points and router set at 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2, etc.: then
have the DHCP serving router start at 192.168.1.100: no worries.
Hactar wrote:
> I have a device I want to put on the LAN (an Xbox v. 1), so it can get
> RSS feeds from outside as well as access my SMB shares locally. It only
> has a hardwore ethernet jack and no slots. It also would be impractical
> to run an ethernet cable to it, so it'll have to be a wireless <->
> ethernet bridge. To that end, I got a router which supports "bridge"
> mode, an Actiontec MI424WR (revision D). There's another one in the house
> (earlier revision though), so the interface is familiar.
>
> The manual says that to make it an IP bridge, I need to set it to have
> no IP address. (Actually, it says that having no IP address is useful
> when configuring it as a bridge.) Fair enough. However, the message
> it pops up before it does that scares me. It says: "Configuring an
> internal connection to have no IP address will make it inaccessible".
> I can see that.
>
> 1. Is that step necessary? Can't I do this:
>
> NAT NAT
> (( net )) -- router #1 -- 192.168.1.x (router #2) -- 192.168.2.x (xbox)
> `- 192.168.1.x ( ... )
> `- ...
>
> 2. If it is necessary, how do I access the router afterward?
>
Hactar wrote:
> I have a device I want to put on the LAN (an Xbox v. 1), so it can get
> RSS feeds from outside as well as access my SMB shares locally. It
> only has a hardwore ethernet jack and no slots. It also would be
> impractical to run an ethernet cable to it, so it'll have to be a
> wireless <-> ethernet bridge. To that end, I got a router which
> supports "bridge" mode, an Actiontec MI424WR (revision D). There's
> another one in the house (earlier revision though), so the interface
> is familiar.
>
> The manual says that to make it an IP bridge, I need to set it to have
> no IP address. (Actually, it says that having no IP address is useful
> when configuring it as a bridge.) Fair enough. However, the message
> it pops up before it does that scares me. It says: "Configuring an
> internal connection to have no IP address will make it inaccessible".
> I can see that.
>
> 1. Is that step necessary? Can't I do this:
>
> NAT NAT
> (( net )) -- router #1 -- 192.168.1.x (router #2) -- 192.168.2.x
> (xbox) `- 192.168.1.x ( ... )
> `- ...
>
> 2. If it is necessary, how do I access the router afterward?
>
I don't understand what you have around the house as the LAN ???
I have a WiFi LAN for the house - 192.168.1.xxx
Then I have a "bridge" device in the family room for the Xbox.
The bridge lives at address 192.168.1.15 for access to config & manage it.
It however just uses the WiFi network like any other "computer device".
The Ethernet jack then connects to the Xbox and all is well,
as if the Xbox was on the LAN or on the WiFi network.
Actually - I have a small hub connected to the "bridge"
to give me several Ethernet ports in the family room
for the Xbox 360, the Tivo, etc
Hactar wrote:
> In article <EC21k.6075$mh5.5367@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>> Hactar wrote:
>>> I have a device I want to put on the LAN (an Xbox v. 1), so it can
>>> get RSS feeds from outside as well as access my SMB shares locally.
>>> It only has a hardwore ethernet jack and no slots. It also would be
>>> impractical to run an ethernet cable to it, so it'll have to be a
>>> wireless <-> ethernet bridge. To that end, I got a router which
>>> supports "bridge" mode, an Actiontec MI424WR (revision D). There's
>>> another one in the house (earlier revision though), so the interface
>>> is familiar.
>>>
>>> The manual says that to make it an IP bridge, I need to set it to
>>> have no IP address. (Actually, it says that having no IP address
>>> is useful when configuring it as a bridge.) Fair enough. However,
>>> the message it pops up before it does that scares me. It says:
>>> "Configuring an internal connection to have no IP address will make
>>> it inaccessible". I can see that.
>>>
>>> 1. Is that step necessary? Can't I do this:
>
> snip
>
>>> 2. If it is necessary, how do I access the router afterward?
>>
>> I don't understand what you have around the house as the LAN ???
>
> Five computers, a print server, and some occasional things. Some are
> hardwired, some are wireless. All are in 192.168.1.*. Everything
> uses DHCP, but most are set up to get the same address every time
> they come up.
>
>> I have a WiFi LAN for the house - 192.168.1.xxx
>> Then I have a "bridge" device in the family room for the Xbox.
>> The bridge lives at address 192.168.1.15 for access to config &
>> manage it. It however just uses the WiFi network like any other
>> "computer device". The Ethernet jack then connects to the Xbox and
>> all is well,
>> as if the Xbox was on the LAN or on the WiFi network.
>
> What kind of router do you use for the bridge? That's what I want to
> do with mine. I got a nice diagram
>
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/images/3/...idge_large.jpg
>
> but I don't know how to configure the Actiontec that way.
>
At the "bridge" end of the puzzle,
you need a device that can act as a "bridge".... ie a real bridge,
or an access point that can be configured into "bridge mode".
You don't need a router - you need a WiFi device that is, or can become a
WiFi "bridge".
Here's a note on your device - Actiontec MI424WR http://actiontec.com/products/product.php?pid=41
and some info - http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r176...network-bridge
In article <gzd1k.512$L_.22@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>,
ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
> Hactar wrote:
> > In article <EC21k.6075$mh5.5367@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > ps56k <pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a WiFi LAN for the house - 192.168.1.xxx
> >> Then I have a "bridge" device in the family room for the Xbox.
> >> The bridge lives at address 192.168.1.15 for access to config &
> >> manage it. It however just uses the WiFi network like any other
> >> "computer device". The Ethernet jack then connects to the Xbox and
> >> all is well,
> >> as if the Xbox was on the LAN or on the WiFi network.
> >
> > What kind of router do you use for the bridge? That's what I want to
> > do with mine. I got a nice diagram
> >
> > http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/images/3/...idge_large.jpg
> >
> > but I don't know how to configure the Actiontec that way.
> >
> At the "bridge" end of the puzzle,
> you need a device that can act as a "bridge".... ie a real bridge,
> or an access point that can be configured into "bridge mode".
> You don't need a router - you need a WiFi device that is, or can become a
> WiFi "bridge".
OK. Can this (MI424-WR) do that (wireless bridge)? I know it's
overkill... I'd also be OK with forming a subnet for the Xbox. I won't
need to make inbound connections.
Yeah, I saw things like that before. They're instruction on how to set
up the router to do WAN - LAN bridging with no wireless. I think I want
WAN - wireless or LAN - wireless bridging. Can I do that? What
modifications do I need to make?
If you use a DHCP address from your server, you won't know what the
address is, hence the "Configuring an internal connection to have no IP
address will make it inaccessible". Give it a fixed address and plug
your Xbox in after configuring the bridge.
Hactar wrote:
> In article <N6CdnbTe8oKsB9nVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@netdoor.com>,
> Airman Thunderbird <airman.basic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hactar wrote:
>>> The manual says that to make it an IP bridge, I need to set it to have
>>> no IP address. (Actually, it says that having no IP address is useful
>>> when configuring it as a bridge.) Fair enough. However, the message
>>> it pops up before it does that scares me. It says: "Configuring an
>>> internal connection to have no IP address will make it inaccessible".
>>> I can see that.
>>>
>>> 1. Is that step necessary? Can't I do this:
>
> snip
>
>>> 2. If it is necessary, how do I access the router afterward?
>
>> That's what you're trying to do is make it transparent to the rest of
>> the network. It would still be visible if you know the IP address.
>
> IP address of what? The attached device? At port 80 (www) still? And
> does it go in the WAN port or one of the LAN ports, or does it matter?
>
>> You don't HAVE to let DHCP handle the bridge IP.
>
> For most of the other devices around here I have DHCP assign a fixed
> address. DHCP doesn't require a dynamic address after all.
>
>> I have a bridge set to a
>> fixed IP address and it works fine in my network, just make sure the
>> number won't conflict with your DHCP server. For example, I have my
>> access points and router set at 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2, etc.: then
>> have the DHCP serving router start at 192.168.1.100: no worries.
>
> Sure.
>
> Also, I think I have a decent handle on what needs to happen
> theoretically. Any idea how I configure the router to make that happen
> actually?
>
Configure as a bridge, however your particular hardware accomplishes that.
Hactar wrote:
> OK. I don't see an obvious way of having the wifi circuitry be just
> another device on router #1's net and not broadcast its own SSID. Any
> clues?
>
router -> bridge 
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