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Old 04-16-2008, 07:50 AM
Andrea Caldarone
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Default separate wireless lan on the same internet connection

Hi all,

I've one internet connection and I need to share it among two separate
"identities" via some wireless connections. I have tought a solution like
this:

one internet router (internal IP 10.0.0.1)
one LAN router with 3 interfaces, one connected to the internet router the
other two connected to two access point that provide two different networks
to the two "identities".

any better ideas?


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Old 04-16-2008, 01:04 PM
Oren
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On Apr 15, 11:50 pm, "Andrea Caldarone" <andrea.livquist-
caldar...@poste.it> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've one internet connection and I need to share it among two separate
> "identities" via some wireless connections. I have tought a solution like
> this:
>
> one internet router (internal IP 10.0.0.1)
> one LAN router with 3 interfaces, one connected to the internet router the
> other two connected to two access point that provide two different networks
> to the two "identities".
>
> any better ideas?


Hi Andrea,
Should the two "identities" be logically separated? or do they have
access to one another?
What are the security requirements of the connection?

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Old 04-16-2008, 01:30 PM
Andrea Caldarone
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> Hi Andrea,
> Should the two "identities" be logically separated? or do they have
> access to one another?


by default the two "identities" have to be logically separated

> What are the security requirements of the connection?


I think WPA-PSK is sufficient

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Old 04-16-2008, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: separate wireless lan on the same internet connection

Andrea Caldarone wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've one internet connection and I need to share it among two separate
> "identities" via some wireless connections. I have tought a solution
> like this:
>
> one internet router (internal IP 10.0.0.1)
> one LAN router with 3 interfaces, one connected to the internet
> router the other two connected to two access point that provide two
> different networks to the two "identities".
>
> any better ideas?


Can you just explain what exactly you are trying to do ?
Share a common connection between two different offices ? apartments ? etc
?
Will it only ever be just two "clients" ? maybe three or more ?




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Old 04-16-2008, 04:06 PM
Andrea Caldarone
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Default Re: separate wireless lan on the same internet connection

two different office located in two different building

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Old 04-16-2008, 04:21 PM
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Andrea Caldarone wrote:
> I've one internet connection and I need to share it among two separate
> "identities" via some wireless connections. I have tought a solution
> like this:
>
> one internet router (internal IP 10.0.0.1)
> one LAN router with 3 interfaces, one connected to the internet router
> the other two connected to two access point that provide two different
> networks to the two "identities".


As you describe it, most likely won't work. There is a hidden "gotcha".

As I understand it you will have:
1) Internet connects to WAN port of the internet router. That's OK.
2) LAN port of internet router connects to one of the LAN ports of the
LAN router. That's OK.
3) LAN router LAN port1 connects to the internet router as in step 2)
above. That's OK.
4) LAN router LAN port2 connects to the first AP. That's OK.
5) LAN router LAN port3 connects to the second AP. That's a problem.

Here's why. Connect only one AP to the LAN router and ping to
x.x.x.255 or use a IP finder utility such as
http://www.radmin.com/products/utilities/ipscanner.php
to find all the IP adresses ont the network. You see a .255 address.

What is happening is the AP generates a a .255 address. When you
connect the second AP, it also creates a second .255 address. You'll
get a IP address conflict and can't get into the second AP.

The solution is to connect the LAN router port2 to a switch and
connect the APs to second and third ports of the switch.

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Old 04-16-2008, 07:10 PM
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"Andrea Caldarone" <andrea.livquist-caldarone@poste.it> wrote in message
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> two different office located in two different building


That's a whole other set of hassles.

Do you have line-of-sight between the buildings? If not, then stop, it
won't work. Certainly not reliably.

If you do have line-of-sight (and it stays that way year-round, as in no
leaves) then you can setup a point to point connection. There are any
number of ways to do it. But basically you put two wireless routers with
antennas pointed at each other. Then you set up the one in the second
building to act as a 'client' of the first one. There are various network
routing issues to consider but they're relatively straightforward to
overcome. If you want laptop wifi coverage in the buildings you will need
other access points for that. The ones between buildings do that, and only
that.

But then you have to balance the hassles of doing this, AND keeping it
running, against just getting a second internet connection.

-Bill Kearney


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