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Old 10-18-2005, 05:49 PM
Eric
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Default Small RADIUS Server?

I've been wanting to play with RADIUS, but motivation today quickly led to
the discovery that is not going to happen short of dragging an old P2 out of
the basement, finding a NIC somewhere, and hoping for the best with
FreeRADIUS.

The manufacturers should market small, dedicated, RADIUS server hardware.
Something like D-Link's DWL-2210AP, but dedicated to RADIUS only, without
the rest of the BS in the DWL-2210AP such as the radios. Probably could
even be small enough that it could just be a "module" that you simply stick
into one of your router or AP's LAN ports, give it an IP, and then simply
point the router or AP's in it's direction. The thing probably could be
sold for like $50. (DWL-2210AP is $250, with built-in RADIUS server and
radios.)

....but I guess that would make sense, so I'll be dragging an old computer up
from the basement..






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Old 10-18-2005, 05:57 PM
Eric
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Default Re: Small RADIUS Server?

"Eric" wrote in message...
> I've been wanting to play with RADIUS, but motivation today quickly led to
> the discovery that is not going to happen short of dragging an old P2 out

of
> the basement, finding a NIC somewhere, and hoping for the best with
> FreeRADIUS.
>
> The manufacturers should market small, dedicated, RADIUS server hardware.
> Something like D-Link's DWL-2210AP, but dedicated to RADIUS only, without
> the rest of the BS in the DWL-2210AP such as the radios. Probably could
> even be small enough that it could just be a "module" that you simply

stick
> into one of your router or AP's LAN ports, give it an IP, and then simply
> point the router or AP's in it's direction. The thing probably could be
> sold for like $50. (DWL-2210AP is $250, with built-in RADIUS server and
> radios.)
>
> ...but I guess that would make sense, so I'll be dragging an old computer

up
> from the basement..


.....Oh, obviously, I didn't mean for corporate RADIUS with thousands of
users, but for just simple home and small office BS.
(Able to handle a dozen "clients" or so.)





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Old 10-18-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Small RADIUS Server?

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In <%Aa5f.80362$tD4.8769@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> on Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:49:47
GMT, "Eric" <none@nospam.never> wrote:

>I've been wanting to play with RADIUS, but motivation today quickly led to
>the discovery that is not going to happen short of dragging an old P2 out of
>the basement, finding a NIC somewhere, and hoping for the best with
>FreeRADIUS.
>
>The manufacturers should market small, dedicated, RADIUS server hardware.
>...


If you have the WRT54G/GS, see tinyPEAP <http://www.tinypeap.com/>.
Also the builtin PEAP server in the ZyXEL G-2000 Plus
<http://www.zyxel.com/product/model.php?indexcate=1111384189&indexFlagvalue=1085 450343>
or <http://tinyurl.com/bmvp8>

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Old 10-18-2005, 10:32 PM
David Taylor
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Default Re: Small RADIUS Server?

> ....Oh, obviously, I didn't mean for corporate RADIUS with thousands of
> users, but for just simple home and small office BS.
> (Able to handle a dozen "clients" or so.)


So use tinypeap on a WRT54G!

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Old 10-19-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: Small RADIUS Server?

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:50:33 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>If you have the WRT54G/GS, see tinyPEAP <http://www.tinypeap.com/>.
>Also the builtin PEAP server in the ZyXEL G-2000 Plus
><http://www.zyxel.com/product/model.php?indexcate=1111384189&indexFlagvalue=1085 450343>
>or <http://tinyurl.com/bmvp8>


I found a few more that have built in RADIUS servers. Intermec WA21
and WA22 MobileLAN access points.
| http://home.intermec.com/eprise/main...SPTS%20target=
| http://home.intermec.com/eprise/main...SPTS%20target=
Prices are a bit high for consumer use.
| http://www.irdatalink.com/intermec/0105f001.htm#wa21

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Old 10-19-2005, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Small RADIUS - WRT54G/GS

(This is a combined reply to all.)

Hi,

Thanks for replies! This "tinyPEAP" does look very cool.

Wow, these Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS routers seem to be very "mod-able".
I remember a while back, while looking for a captive portal (ended up using
"ZoneCD"), looking at such a flash mod for the WRT54G.

I think my main router (an older 802.11a/b D-Link DI-764, still working
great at 3 years) is going to get replaced with a WRT54GS. :^)

I just saw this "tinyPEAP" right now, so haven't even read the docs yet. If
it works for a connection occuring anywhere on the network (and not just to
the WRT54GS's radio), then I'm definetly getting it. I'll have one of my
DWL-7100AP's plugged into one of the WRT54GS's LAN ports as all my LAN stuff
is D-Link 802.11a and will need to go through the 7100AP. Probably will even
just turn the WRT54GS's radios off completetly. Did a quick google to see
other Linksys router-only stuff that is "mod-able", but then looked at the
price of the WRT54GS. The WRT54GS is freaking cheap!

Thanks for the pointer towards this WRT54GS and "tinyPEAP". It looks like
it will be the next toy. (Going to read about the other hardware mentioned
in this thread as well.)

Cheers,
Eric




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Old 10-19-2005, 04:20 PM
William P. N. Smith
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Default Re: Small RADIUS - WRT54G/GS

"Eric" <none@nospam.never> wrote:
>Wow, these Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS routers seem to be very "mod-able".


Yeah, it has a lot to do with their using open-source Linux, and
having to give their code back to the development community (and vice
versa). Too bad the WRT54G V5 is going to a closed OS with no
aftermarket firmware possibilities.

"It's my nose, and I can cut it off if I want to, so there!"

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Old 10-19-2005, 05:21 PM
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William P. N. Smith <> wrote:

> "Eric" <none@nospam.never> wrote:
>>Wow, these Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS routers seem to be very "mod-able".

>
> Yeah, it has a lot to do with their using open-source Linux, and
> having to give their code back to the development community (and vice
> versa). Too bad the WRT54G V5 is going to a closed OS with no
> aftermarket firmware possibilities.
>
> "It's my nose, and I can cut it off if I want to, so there!"


No kidding. Considering that most reviews I've read seem to think other
hardware is superior, only the fact that we can hack the software makes the
Linksys equipment so attractive. Of course, if they're not careful,
they'll end up with worse software and _nobody_ will want their systems.
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Small RADIUS - WRT54G/GS

<William P. N. Smith> wrote ...

> Yeah, it has a lot to do with their using open-source Linux, and
> having to give their code back to the development community (and vice
> versa). Too bad the WRT54G V5 is going to a closed OS with no
> aftermarket firmware possibilities.


Hi,

Thanks for that heads up. I'm planning to pick up '54GS this weekend and
wasn't aware of that, which could've led to getting a V5.

From a google:
----
The first 4 digits in the serial number (look on the box or the underside of
the router) represent the hardware revision:

CDF0 = WRT54G v1.0
CDF1 = WRT54G v1.0
[.Snip F2 to F9.]
CDFA = WRT54G v4.0
CDFB = WRT54G v5.0

CGN0 = WRT54GS v1.0
CGN1 = WRT54GS v1.0
[.Snip N2 tp N5.]
CGN6 = WRT54GS v4.0

[The WRT54G V5.0] has limited ram (2/8) and runs on VxWorks and not Linux.

---- http://wrt-wiki.bsr-clan.de/index.ph...D-WRT_Docu_(EN)

If there was a WRT54GS V5.0 released after that site was put together, I
wonder what it's serial number is?
(Its a joke). :^)

-Eric





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