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Old 12-25-2006, 07:11 PM
chaser7016
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Default Uggh 2 routers one network(1 is router 1 is access point)

I have been struggling on and off for a year to get this working
properly as seen here.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.i...b125c057817115


I got it working for about a month or less and then gave up. A few
months later I set it up again got it working and then again it stopped
working, so I gave up. I have been through this exact process a few
times this year. Everything works for about two weeks and then boom my
laptop will not connect to either access point or wireless router.

I have a Compaq Presario 2500(2580US) with a BroadCom 802.11 b/g wi-fi
card built in. Unfortunately, I do not have any other wi fi devices to
test this with.

I just reinstalled the laptop's OS, thinking maybe my wi fi connection
issue is due to some junk on my system causing a conflict. That hasnt
cleared up the issue.

My first and second attempt at getting this up and running the linksys
router I have turned into an access point was over 500 or more from the
linksys ROUTER. The access point is now closer about 250 feet away
from linksys ROUTER and Im still having the same unable to connect
issues.

ATM when I type in http://192.168.1.2 (the address of the access point)
or try to ping it I am unable to connect in browser or ping it. Yet
the PC that is hard wired from that access point is still connected to
the network and I can surf the net with it?

Well i appreciate any comments or suggestions!

Thanks,
Chaser


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Old 12-26-2006, 03:45 PM
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> ATM when I type in http://192.168.1.2 (the address of the access
point)
> or try to ping it I am unable to connect in browser or ping it. Yet
> the PC that is hard wired from that access point is still connected to
> the network and I can surf the net with it?
>
> Well i appreciate any comments or suggestions!


Hi Chaser. I had an almost identical problem this past weekend (I like
to call it my Christmas "surprise"). It would work, then not, then
work. I'd set everything and boom on the next reset even the SSID was
gone.

What I did wound up being pretty involved but I have two thoughts:

It could be your access point (since you can't ping it) has DHCP set up
and your laptop has a static ip set out of it's range. I thought I had
that problem because of a constant "acquiring address" state even
though I knew damn well the access point expected a static IP which the
laptop had.

But....

It turned out to be XP SP2 and it's stupid, stupid Pavlov like
insistence on the built in firewall. For some reason it hates the
MICROSOFT wireless card in the laptop. Even tho the firewall was off, I
had to go into the advanced settings and turn everything on manually to
get it to work correctly. Status > Properties > Advanced > Settings and
ticked everything but for remote assistance. It may be a laptop kind of
thing because I didn't have to do that at all when I installed SP2 on
the XP box I use as a server. Now I'm all fat and happy - I'm posting
this via the laptop in question even numerous restart cycles and a trip
to my mother-in-laws house to fix her network.

So I'd try something like that - couldn't find anything about it in the
knowledge base at MS, btw.


Max


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Old 12-26-2006, 11:37 PM
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Thanks Max!

I assume when you speak of Status -- properties -- advance you are
speaking of Windows Firewall?

Weird thing when i go to control panel, windows firewall and click, I
get the following two messages, "Windows Firewall settings cannot be
displayed because the associated service is not running. Do you want
to startt he Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing(ICS)
service?" YES or NO

I choose YES and then receive the following message, "Windows cannot
start the Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing(ICS) service."

Hmm....any suggestions?

Thanks,
Chaser

On Dec 26, 10:45 am, "beemerwacker" <43.kit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ATM when I type inhttp://192.168.1.2(the address of the access

> point)
>
> > or try to ping it I am unable to connect in browser or ping it. Yet
> > the PC that is hard wired from that access point is still connected to
> > the network and I can surf the net with it?

>
> > Well i appreciate any comments or suggestions!Hi Chaser. I had an almost identical problem this past weekend (I like

> to call it my Christmas "surprise"). It would work, then not, then
> work. I'd set everything and boom on the next reset even the SSID was
> gone.
>
> What I did wound up being pretty involved but I have two thoughts:
>
> It could be your access point (since you can't ping it) has DHCP set up
> and your laptop has a static ip set out of it's range. I thought I had
> that problem because of a constant "acquiring address" state even
> though I knew damn well the access point expected a static IP which the
> laptop had.
>
> But....
>
> It turned out to be XP SP2 and it's stupid, stupid Pavlov like
> insistence on the built in firewall. For some reason it hates the
> MICROSOFT wireless card in the laptop. Even tho the firewall was off, I
> had to go into the advanced settings and turn everything on manually to
> get it to work correctly. Status > Properties > Advanced > Settings and
> ticked everything but for remote assistance. It may be a laptop kind of
> thing because I didn't have to do that at all when I installed SP2 on
> the XP box I use as a server. Now I'm all fat and happy - I'm posting
> this via the laptop in question even numerous restart cycles and a trip
> to my mother-in-laws house to fix her network.
>
> So I'd try something like that - couldn't find anything about it in the
> knowledge base at MS, btw.
>
> Max



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Old 01-09-2007, 10:45 AM
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chaser7016 wrote:
> Thanks Max!
>
> I assume when you speak of Status -- properties -- advance you are
> speaking of Windows Firewall?
>
> Weird thing when i go to control panel, windows firewall and click, I
> get the following two messages, "Windows Firewall settings cannot be
> displayed because the associated service is not running. Do you want
> to startt he Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing(ICS)
> service?" YES or NO
>
> I choose YES and then receive the following message, "Windows cannot
> start the Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing(ICS) service."
>
> Hmm....any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Chaser


If you go into you administrative tools > services you can find out
more about the service. Services can be set to disabled, manual or
automatic. Some services require a reboot. "Internet connection
sharing/firewall" is probably not the issue. You simply want to connect
to the network, not use the laptop as a shared connection.

Your wireless card (this is from my Belkin experiences) may require
it's own software to detect and attach itself to a network.

You can try several options at this point. If the card has software,
install it and let it detect the network. You could be too far away
from the access point (try putting the thing right next to the AP and
see what happens). You could try net stumbler (netstumbler.com) and see
if the card even sees the network. Try another card.

Hope this helps somewhat.


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