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Old 03-15-2007, 03:45 PM
stevemc75@gmail.com
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Default Unable to connect to internet through wireless router

I have an existing connection through my old laptop to a 3COM wireless
ADSL router and can connect to the internet on my old laptop.

I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
and see the router settings but can not access the internet.

I have checked the DHCP settings on the router and tried turning the
firewall off but still no success. I can't see any problem with any
of the settings on the router and as I have said the other laptop can
still access the internet.

I have checks the ipconfig and the laptop does get the default gateway
and leases an address from the router but can still not connect to the
internet or ping any external ip addresses.

When I connected to the router using an ethernet cable I could connect
to the internet. I am tearing my hair out - have asked many IT/
Network people but no one can see where the problem could be.

Any help is greatly appreciated!!


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Old 03-15-2007, 03:59 PM
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stevemc75@gmail.com writes:
> I have an existing connection through my old laptop to a 3COM wireless
> ADSL router and can connect to the internet on my old laptop.
>
> I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
> and see the router settings but can not access the internet.
>
> I have checked the DHCP settings on the router and tried turning the
> firewall off but still no success. I can't see any problem with any
> of the settings on the router and as I have said the other laptop can
> still access the internet.
>
> I have checks the ipconfig and the laptop does get the default gateway
> and leases an address from the router but can still not connect to the
> internet or ping any external ip addresses.


Assuming it also gets a DNS server address as well?

If your external pinging is being attempted by hostname, DNS not being
set to DHCP on the client would cause these symptoms.

Any MAC address filters set up in the router perchance? Internet
access restrictions/policies that may treat your laptop differently
from the friend's laptop?

Does this laptop connect to other AP's without issue? If not, could
be a problem with wireless card or the driver.

These things can drive a person nuts, so good luck!

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Old 03-15-2007, 04:40 PM
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>I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
>and see the router settings but can not access the internet.


I have a similar problem. I can get Email and Newsreader but not
browse on any of three browsers.

I use Avast! anti virus and found that if I turn it off any
browser can access the internet.

Talking to Avast now about resolving this.
George C

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Old 03-15-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Unable to connect to internet through wireless router

On 15 Mar, 14:59, comph...@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote:
> stevem...@gmail.com writes:
> > I have an existing connection through my old laptop to a 3COM wireless
> > ADSL router and can connect to the internet on my old laptop.

>
> > I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
> > and see the router settings but can not access the internet.

>
> > I have checked the DHCP settings on the router and tried turning the
> > firewall off but still no success. I can't see any problem with any
> > of the settings on the router and as I have said the other laptop can
> > still access the internet.

>
> > I have checks the ipconfig and the laptop does get the default gateway
> > and leases an address from the router but can still not connect to the
> > internet or ping any external ip addresses.

>
> Assuming it also gets a DNS server address as well?
>


It does get the DNS Server address

> If your external pinging is being attempted by hostname, DNS not being
> set to DHCP on the client would cause these symptoms.
>

I'm pinging directly to the IP Address

> Any MAC address filters set up in the router perchance? Internet
> access restrictions/policies that may treat your laptop differently
> from the friend's laptop?
>

There is no MAC address filtering on the router and the other security
settings I've got on the router/laptop are ok - nothing that I can see
that would specifically link the router to one client.

> Does this laptop connect to other AP's without issue? If not, could
> be a problem with wireless card or the driver.
>

Not sure what AP means but have been unable to connect to the owner's
wireless router either. I ruled out the wireless card because I could
connect to the router and see the router's settings

I also kind of ruled this out because it is a brand new Sony laptop.

Thanks

Steve



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Old 03-15-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Unable to connect to internet through wireless router

On 15 Mar, 15:40, piotor norton <g...@gov.net> wrote:
> >I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
> >and see the router settings but can not access the internet.

>
> I have a similar problem. I can get Email and Newsreader but not
> browse on any of three browsers.
>
> I use Avast! anti virus and found that if I turn it off any
> browser can access the internet.
>
> Talking to Avast now about resolving this.
> George C


This is a new laptop, that as usual has a trial version of Norton
internet security on there, but this has not yet been set up so is
still showing as disabled. Have had problems with Norton before on my
own laptop and were only solved by uninstalling Norton. I didn't
think this could be the problem though as it shows as disabled -
though knowing symantec they probably stop you using the internet
until you have infected your pc with Norton.

Thanks

Steve


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Old 03-15-2007, 05:03 PM
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stevemc75@gmail.com writes:

> > Does this laptop connect to other AP's without issue? If not, could
> > be a problem with wireless card or the driver.
> >

> Not sure what AP means but have been unable to connect to the owner's
> wireless router either. I ruled out the wireless card because I could
> connect to the router and see the router's settings
>
> I also kind of ruled this out because it is a brand new Sony laptop.


Stranger things have happened.

Before I'd spend too much effort pulling additional hair out, I'd try
to connect that laptop to another access point/router to verify that
the wireless functionality is fully working. I've seen wireless cards
that'd see networks but couldn't join, could join, but couldn't get
an IP, could get an IP, but sstuff still wouldn't work.

When you ping -t <ip of the router> for a few minutes, do you get
significant packet loss?


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Old 03-15-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Unable to connect to internet through wireless router

On 15 Mar, 16:03, comph...@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote:
> stevem...@gmail.com writes:
> > > Does this laptop connect to other AP's without issue? If not, could
> > > be a problem with wireless card or the driver.

>
> > Not sure what AP means but have been unable to connect to the owner's
> > wireless router either. I ruled out the wireless card because I could
> > connect to the router and see the router's settings

>
> > I also kind of ruled this out because it is a brand new Sony laptop.

>
> Stranger things have happened.
>
> Before I'd spend too much effort pulling additional hair out, I'd try
> to connect that laptop to another access point/router to verify that
> the wireless functionality is fully working. I've seen wireless cards
> that'd see networks but couldn't join, could join, but couldn't get
> an IP, could get an IP, but sstuff still wouldn't work.
>
> When you ping -t <ip of the router> for a few minutes, do you get
> significant packet loss?
>
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I haven't done this for a few minutes, just the ping.. but when I have
done it I haven't had any packet loss

Steve M


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Old 03-15-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Unable to connect to internet through wireless router

On 15 Mar 2007 07:45:56 -0700, stevemc75@gmail.com wrote in
<1173969955.928666.69970@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>:

>I have an existing connection through my old laptop to a 3COM wireless
>ADSL router and can connect to the internet on my old laptop.
>
>I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
>and see the router settings but can not access the internet.


What does that mean? Please, _exact_ symptoms!

>I have checked the DHCP settings on the router and tried turning the
>firewall off but still no success. I can't see any problem with any
>of the settings on the router and as I have said the other laptop can
>still access the internet.


Can it access the router configuration interface?

>I have checks the ipconfig and the laptop does get the default gateway
>and leases an address from the router but can still not connect to the
>internet or ping any external ip addresses.


Please post the _exact_ IPCONFIG output here.

>When I connected to the router using an ethernet cable I could connect
>to the internet. I am tearing my hair out - have asked many IT/
>Network people but no one can see where the problem could be.


Compare the IPCONFIG output of wireless against wired.

My WAG is that you're got security configured in the wireless router.
My suggestion is to reset it to hardware defaults, and start over,
turning on security only after your wireless is working.

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Old 03-15-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Unable to connect to internet through wireless router

stevemc75@gmail.com wrote:
> On 15 Mar, 15:40, piotor norton <g...@gov.net> wrote:
>>> I tried a friends new Sony Vaio laptop and can connect to the router
>>> and see the router settings but can not access the internet.

>> I have a similar problem. I can get Email and Newsreader but not
>> browse on any of three browsers.
>>
>> I use Avast! anti virus and found that if I turn it off any
>> browser can access the internet.
>>
>> Talking to Avast now about resolving this.
>> George C

>
> This is a new laptop, that as usual has a trial version of Norton
> internet security on there, but this has not yet been set up so is
> still showing as disabled.


I would double check this. To me "disabled" means that at some point it
has been operational and no longer is. How long has the laptop been
owned and is the period of time outside the "Activation" limits of NIS.
I have heard of some people having problems because of this, one person
had been playing with "Parental Controls" and when his activation time
ran out found he could not access the web to get to the Symantec Site.

> Have had problems with Norton before on my
> own laptop and were only solved by uninstalling Norton. I didn't
> think this could be the problem though as it shows as disabled -
> though knowing symantec they probably stop you using the internet
> until you have infected your pc with Norton.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
>


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Old 03-17-2007, 01:22 AM
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:07:50 +0000, kev <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote
in <Y7KdnSfMp6PoFmTYnZ2dnUVZ8qaqnZ2d@bt.com>:

>stevemc75@gmail.com wrote:


>> This is a new laptop, that as usual has a trial version of Norton
>> internet security on there, but this has not yet been set up so is
>> still showing as disabled.

>
>I would double check this. To me "disabled" means that at some point it
>has been operational and no longer is. How long has the laptop been
>owned and is the period of time outside the "Activation" limits of NIS.
>I have heard of some people having problems because of this, one person
>had been playing with "Parental Controls" and when his activation time
>ran out found he could not access the web to get to the Symantec Site.


Agreed. I would definitely remove it! Besides, better products are
free (e.g., Avira AntiVir Personal Edition Classic, Grisoft AVG Free).

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