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Old 10-08-2009, 02:03 AM
amdx
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Default UP/Down speed test oddity

I'm using wifi with a 100 yard plus link distance.
I did a speed test at;
http://www.speed.io/index_en.html

The result was Download 29kbits/s and Upload 303kbits/s .

Download very slow

Download is usually over 3000kbits/s, Upload 300 to 330 kbits/s.

Computers been slow lately, and takes forever just to load
everything to start.

Any thoughts about this situation?
Mike




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Old 10-08-2009, 02:36 AM
John Navas
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:03:49 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote in
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> I'm using wifi with a 100 yard plus link distance.
>I did a speed test at;
>http://www.speed.io/index_en.html
>
>The result was Download 29kbits/s and Upload 303kbits/s .
>
>Download very slow
>
>Download is usually over 3000kbits/s, Upload 300 to 330 kbits/s.
>
>Computers been slow lately, and takes forever just to load
>everything to start.
>
> Any thoughts about this situation?


Not without a lot more details and information.

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Old 10-08-2009, 05:25 AM
Jeff Liebermann
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On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:03:49 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

> I'm using wifi with a 100 yard plus link distance.
>I did a speed test at;
>http://www.speed.io/index_en.html
>The result was Download 29kbits/s and Upload 303kbits/s .
>Download very slow
>Download is usually over 3000kbits/s, Upload 300 to 330 kbits/s.


You're measuring the speed of your internet connection, not the speed
of your wireless. (I'll assume that's what you're trying to measure).
For benchmarking a wi-fi connection, you need two computahs. The
"server" computah is wired to your unspecified model wireless router
with CAT5 and should be fairly fast.

For software, I suggest Iperf or Jperf. Jperf is easier to use.
<http://openmaniak.com/iperf.php>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iperf>
<http://code.google.com/p/xjperf/>

>Computers been slow lately, and takes forever just to load
>everything to start.


Well, lacking anything resembling useful information, such as maker,
model, operating system, etc, I'll just offer a random guess. I just
had 2 hard disk drive fail in the last two weeks on customers
machines. Both exhibited similar symptoms just before they started
accumulating bad sectors. I suggest you try using an S.M.A.R.T.
utility such as SpeedFan:
<http://www.almico.com/sfscreenshots.php>
Hmmm.... old photo. There's button to generate a report which tells
you most everything you don't want to hear about your hard disk drives
future. Please let me know if this was the problem as I need to check
if my crystal ball is still working.

> Any thoughts about this situation?
> Mike


Yes, but this is a family newsgroup and such thoughts would be deemed
inappropriate. I suggest you disclose some information about your
hardware, software, and what problem are you really trying to solve.

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Old 10-08-2009, 12:51 PM
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"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:fupqc51jp5cf859ratci2lsva5icau64e5@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:03:49 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm using wifi with a 100 yard plus link distance.
>>I did a speed test at;
>>http://www.speed.io/index_en.html
>>The result was Download 29kbits/s and Upload 303kbits/s .
>>Download very slow
>>Download is usually over 3000kbits/s, Upload 300 to 330 kbits/s.

>
> You're measuring the speed of your internet connection, not the speed
> of your wireless. (I'll assume that's what you're trying to measure).
> For benchmarking a wi-fi connection, you need two computahs. The
> "server" computah is wired to your unspecified model wireless router
> with CAT5 and should be fairly fast.
>
> For software, I suggest Iperf or Jperf. Jperf is easier to use.
> <http://openmaniak.com/iperf.php>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iperf>
> <http://code.google.com/p/xjperf/>
>
>>Computers been slow lately, and takes forever just to load
>>everything to start.

>
> Well, lacking anything resembling useful information, such as maker,
> model, operating system, etc, I'll just offer a random guess. I just
> had 2 hard disk drive fail in the last two weeks on customers
> machines. Both exhibited similar symptoms just before they started
> accumulating bad sectors. I suggest you try using an S.M.A.R.T.
> utility such as SpeedFan:
> <http://www.almico.com/sfscreenshots.php>
> Hmmm.... old photo. There's button to generate a report which tells
> you most everything you don't want to hear about your hard disk drives
> future. Please let me know if this was the problem as I need to check
> if my crystal ball is still working.
>
>> Any thoughts about this situation?
>> Mike

>
> Yes, but this is a family newsgroup and such thoughts would be deemed
> inappropriate. I suggest you disclose some information about your
> hardware, software, and what problem are you really trying to solve.
>

Jeff Liebermann

Glad to see you all have your senses of humor in good shape :-)
I just thought it was odd that I had a slower download than upload
usually download is 10 or 15 times faster than upload.
Then, I wondered if it might be related to my slow loading
at starup of the computer.
I'll look into the software later today, when I get some time.
Crystal ball data point coming soon!
Mike




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Old 10-08-2009, 04:49 PM
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:34 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

>Glad to see you all have your senses of humor in good shape :-)


It helps fuel my giant ego. Arrogance takes practice and does not
come naturally.

>I just thought it was odd that I had a slower download than upload
>usually download is 10 or 15 times faster than upload.


It's certainly odd. Also wrong. The problem is that between your
unspecified computah and the internet, there are far too many devices
that might be causing the problem. As you suspect, the most likely
causes are either a slow computah or a screwed up wireless link. The
slow computah is unlikely because it would tend to slow things down in
both directions. Wireless is more likely as the up/down speeds are
totally independent. Some interference at one end of the link, but
not at the other, would create a situation where speed in one
direction is faster than the other. So would a miswired CAT5 ethernet
cable or a broken ethernet switch.

>Then, I wondered if it might be related to my slow loading
>at starup of the computer.


Probably not. If the computah is slow, I would expect it to slow down
the speed in both directions.

> I'll look into the software later today, when I get some time.
>Crystal ball data point coming soon!


Try to isolate (or eliminate) each part of the puzzle. Replace
components (i.e. the test computah) if possible. Don't use internet
speed tests for anything other than a final quality test after
everything else has been tested.

Incidentally, I've seen exactly the same problem with a Wi-Fi
connected desktop at a customers office. Uploads to the access point
and server were fast. Downloads from the server crawled. Uploads
were running about 5Mbits/sec thruput, while downloads were perhaps
0.25Mbits/sec. I eventually found a power supply for a high intensity
desk lamp to be the culprit. It was generating enough RFI to trash
the wi-fi receiver in the desktop. I would have expected such
interference to produce disconnects rather than a slowdown, but not
this radio (Netgear PCI internal something card).

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:18 PM
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Telephone your ISP and tell them your problem. They can run tests and
diagnose problems far more quickly than you can. I had a problem when first
connecting with my ISP and I called them up. They told me to turn on my
computer and connect to the Internet. 2 minutes (or there about) they told
me exactly where the problem was and it was the telephone line into the
house. A bit later the telephone company tech showed up, fixed the problem
and all has been well since.

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:9m1sc5l0io8p2chsm6nu80big3gfbsibdn@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:51:34 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> wrote:
>
>>Glad to see you all have your senses of humor in good shape :-)

>
> It helps fuel my giant ego. Arrogance takes practice and does not
> come naturally.
>
>>I just thought it was odd that I had a slower download than upload
>>usually download is 10 or 15 times faster than upload.

>
> It's certainly odd. Also wrong. The problem is that between your
> unspecified computah and the internet, there are far too many devices
> that might be causing the problem. As you suspect, the most likely
> causes are either a slow computah or a screwed up wireless link. The
> slow computah is unlikely because it would tend to slow things down in
> both directions. Wireless is more likely as the up/down speeds are
> totally independent. Some interference at one end of the link, but
> not at the other, would create a situation where speed in one
> direction is faster than the other. So would a miswired CAT5 ethernet
> cable or a broken ethernet switch.
>
>>Then, I wondered if it might be related to my slow loading
>>at starup of the computer.

>
> Probably not. If the computah is slow, I would expect it to slow down
> the speed in both directions.
>
>> I'll look into the software later today, when I get some time.
>>Crystal ball data point coming soon!

>
> Try to isolate (or eliminate) each part of the puzzle. Replace
> components (i.e. the test computah) if possible. Don't use internet
> speed tests for anything other than a final quality test after
> everything else has been tested.
>
> Incidentally, I've seen exactly the same problem with a Wi-Fi
> connected desktop at a customers office. Uploads to the access point
> and server were fast. Downloads from the server crawled. Uploads
> were running about 5Mbits/sec thruput, while downloads were perhaps
> 0.25Mbits/sec. I eventually found a power supply for a high intensity
> desk lamp to be the culprit. It was generating enough RFI to trash
> the wi-fi receiver in the desktop. I would have expected such
> interference to produce disconnects rather than a slowdown, but not
> this radio (Netgear PCI internal something card).
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558



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