USB adapters with chip antenna

I have been using some small reasonably cheap USB 802.11b/g adaptors
obtained from a local electronics store under their own branding (Dick Smith
Electronics for Aus and NZ) but these are now non-stock.

We remove the flip up chip antenna and wire directly to a biquad with
minimal lead length. Performance on the end of a USB cable is excellent.

Are there any suggested or recommended small USB units with similar antenna
that can be readily removed and the unit fitted to the rear of the biquad as
in the past? They need to have driver availability for Win98 thru to Win XP.

Peter


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On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:01:16 +1000, "Pierre" <rainsford@ihug.com.au>
wrote:

>I have been using some small reasonably cheap USB 802.11b/g adaptors
>obtained from a local electronics store under their own branding (Dick Smith
>Electronics for Aus and NZ) but these are now non-stock.
>
>We remove the flip up chip antenna and wire directly to a biquad with
>minimal lead length. Performance on the end of a USB cable is excellent.
>
>Are there any suggested or recommended small USB units with similar antenna
>that can be readily removed and the unit fitted to the rear of the biquad as
>in the past? They need to have driver availability for Win98 thru to Win XP.

Linksys WUSB54 and WUSB11:
http://www.carnetix.com/WUSB11/Page.html

DLlink 122:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/wir...122/index.html
I don't have a photo, but I unsoldered the PIFA antenna, attached an
SMA connector in its place, and connected it to an external patch
antenna. It's current running on a neighbors rooftop.



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"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
news:0eg2d1lg3bk5i70qsl3ermqvljlvft56kq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:01:16 +1000, "Pierre" <rainsford@ihug.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >I have been using some small reasonably cheap USB 802.11b/g adaptors
> >obtained from a local electronics store under their own branding (Dick
Smith
> >Electronics for Aus and NZ) but these are now non-stock.
> >
> >We remove the flip up chip antenna and wire directly to a biquad with
> >minimal lead length. Performance on the end of a USB cable is excellent.
> >
> >Are there any suggested or recommended small USB units with similar
antenna
> >that can be readily removed and the unit fitted to the rear of the biquad
as
> >in the past? They need to have driver availability for Win98 thru to Win
XP.
>
> Linksys WUSB54 and WUSB11:
> http://www.carnetix.com/WUSB11/Page.html
>
> DLlink 122:
> http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/wir...122/index.html
> I don't have a photo, but I unsoldered the PIFA antenna, attached an
> SMA connector in its place, and connected it to an external patch
> antenna. It's current running on a neighbors rooftop.
>
<snip>
I have found that generally a B/G version appears to be a bit more sensitive
than a straight B version alone by a couple of dB hence looking for G
versions even though they are operating a B units, The distances being
covered around out local neighbourhood mean that we must optimise for best
signal and that extra couple of dB just improves our margins.
Pierre

Maybe Jeff can comment on this observation.
The Network Everywhere NWU11B seems to be very similar to the Linksys
WUSB11 with a diffirent color case.
They can sometimes be found on clear outs very inexpensively.
This model can be tricky to set up non XP if you allow the computer to
reboot after the software install ( before inserting USB connection).
Funny part is that Windows itself often tells you to reboot before
attaching the USB connection.
After reading the manual you discover the working procedure is to
attach the cable after software install with no reboot.
Hence the clearouts.


Pierre wrote:
> "Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:0eg2d1lg3bk5i70qsl3ermqvljlvft56kq@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:01:16 +1000, "Pierre" <rainsford@ihug.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have been using some small reasonably cheap USB 802.11b/g adaptors
> > >obtained from a local electronics store under their own branding (Dick
> Smith
> > >Electronics for Aus and NZ) but these are now non-stock.
> > >
> > >We remove the flip up chip antenna and wire directly to a biquad with
> > >minimal lead length. Performance on the end of a USB cable is excellent.
> > >
> > >Are there any suggested or recommended small USB units with similar
> antenna
> > >that can be readily removed and the unit fitted to the rear of the biquad
> as
> > >in the past? They need to have driver availability for Win98 thru to Win
> XP.
> >
> > Linksys WUSB54 and WUSB11:
> > http://www.carnetix.com/WUSB11/Page.html
> >
> > DLlink 122:
> > http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/wir...122/index.html
> > I don't have a photo, but I unsoldered the PIFA antenna, attached an
> > SMA connector in its place, and connected it to an external patch
> > antenna. It's current running on a neighbors rooftop.
> >
> <snip>
> I have found that generally a B/G version appears to be a bit more sensitive
> than a straight B version alone by a couple of dB hence looking for G
> versions even though they are operating a B units, The distances being
> covered around out local neighbourhood mean that we must optimise for best
> signal and that extra couple of dB just improves our margins.
> Pierre

frankdowling1@yahoo.com <frankdowling1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Maybe Jeff can comment on this observation.
> The Network Everywhere NWU11B seems to be very similar to the Linksys
> WUSB11 with a diffirent color case.

The FCCID tells the tale. They do seem to have different FCCIDs, but
looking at the photos on the FCC web site might show that they are the same
under the plastic.

Linksys WUSB11 2.6: FCC ID PKW-WUSB11
Network Everywhere NWU11B FCC id 07J-GL2411USB

I didn't see these on the units themselves, but they are listed as such in
some Linux WiFi forums.

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On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:06:32 +0000 (UTC),
dold@XReXXUSBXa.usenet.us.com wrote:

>frankdowling1@yahoo.com <frankdowling1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Maybe Jeff can comment on this observation.
>> The Network Everywhere NWU11B seems to be very similar to the Linksys
>> WUSB11 with a diffirent color case.

Sorry, no clue. I'm too lazy to compare internal photos on the FCCID
web pile. However, even if they were identical, various vendors have
been known to enhance and extend software based features. For
example, the common GL2422 hardware is almost identical for all the
following units:
http://www.vallstedt-networks.de/?vendors/GST_Vendors
but the firmware is anything but identical.

>The FCCID tells the tale. They do seem to have different FCCIDs, but
>looking at the photos on the FCC web site might show that they are the same
>under the plastic.
>
>Linksys WUSB11 2.6: FCC ID PKW-WUSB11

PKW is Cisco-Linksys in Irvine.

>Network Everywhere NWU11B FCC id 07J-GL2411USB

That's O7J not Zero 7J as in Global Sun Tech in Taiwan.

>I didn't see these on the units themselves, but they are listed as such in
>some Linux WiFi forums.

Where did you find the list? I've been looking for a hardware list
with FCCID numbers so I wouldn't have to beg for details when
answering questions. The FCCID search tool is rather clumsy and often
fails to find things that I know are there.


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Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
> dold@XReXXUSBXa.usenet.us.com wrote:
>>Linksys WUSB11 2.6: FCC ID PKW-WUSB11
> PKW is Cisco-Linksys in Irvine.
>>Network Everywhere NWU11B FCC id 07J-GL2411USB
> That's O7J not Zero 7J as in Global Sun Tech in Taiwan.

Which doesn't mean much... Sometimes you'll find that a "brand name"
device has an FCC-ID directly from the true manufacturer. Netgear always
has their own, even if the widget appears identical to something else.
(Jeff knows this, just tossing some light out for others.)

>>I didn't see these on the units themselves, but they are listed as such in
>>some Linux WiFi forums.

> Where did you find the list? I've been looking for a hardware list
> with FCCID numbers so I wouldn't have to beg for details when

Google Linksys WUSB11 FCC-ID

For the Orinoco, the reverse is immediately amusing, since most of the
myriad re-branders of that once-excellent card didn't get their own FCC-ID.

> answering questions. The FCCID search tool is rather clumsy and often
> fails to find things that I know are there.

It seems that I can't get to the query screen directly. If I get
there via one other screen, it works, if I get there via another link that
I have stored, it doesn't work. There is some caching going on, so once it
works, either path works. Sometimes the pdf files aren't available, as the
OP noted. Sometimes it works.

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