On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:43:32 -0400, "TSMC" <noemailhere@tsmc.net>
wrote:
>Posted this earlier in a M$ group with no replies
>(I think mine was the only post in the group! :(...)
>
>Home network layout
>
>DSL --> router front w/wireless(DHCP) --> router back w/wireless (Access
>point)
> | |
> | |
>3 computers/ XP Pro 2 computers/ MMC2005
> wired XP Home wired W2K
> MMC2005
Do you really have 5 computers at home?
>All wired computers shared with no problems, internet no problems.
>Wireless computers running Win98, XP Home, XP MMC 2005 can connect to front
>or back routers no network or internet problems.
>
>My new Vista Home Premium laptop will not connect to internet OR home
>network while wireless to the back router!
Make and model of Vista laptop?
Make and model of wireless device inside the Vista laptop?
It probably doesn't matter for this question, but it's nice to know in
case there are known bugs or problems.
>I do get a valid IP from my DHCP and the Vista laptop shows up on the other
>computers network (although not accessible).
How are the two wireless routers wired together? What ports go where?
>Tried turning off Norton IS 2007 ACER network managment and windows
>firewall.
You can't really turn off Norton 2007. I spent a frustrating
afternoon trying to untangle a similar connectivity problem on an XP
Home laptop. I finally gave up and uninstalled Norton, which in
itself was a major ordeal. That worked. In retrospect, there was
nothing really wrong with Norton Personal Internet Security, but I
couldn't figure out how to configure Norton's firewall so that it
would work. Rather than RTFM, I just ripped it out.
>Even though I am connected with a valid IP, I can not open the routers setup
>page or even ping it!
Yet, the router delivered a valid IP address. Well, you say it's
valid, but it might not be. Could I trouble you to disclose the
routers IP address and netmask, as well as the results from IPCONFIG
on the Vista machine? You might want to compare the results of
IPCONFIG on the working machines with the Vista machine, especially
the gateway IP.
>"reply from (local IP) Destination host unreachable"
Excellent. That means there's no route to the target IP address. Run:
Start -> run -> cmd <enter>
route print
and see where the packets are suppose to be going. My guess is that
you have two routers with DHCP servers enabled and one of these is
pointing the gateway to itself, which goes nowhere.
>The Vista laptop CAN wireless into the front router with no problems, also,
>I can hard wire into the front or back router with no problems!
>
>NOTE; No Problems = Local network and Internet access...
So, the only thing that does NOT work is a wireless connection between
the Vista laptop and the back router (DI-624+)? Wired and wireless
both work to the front router (DI-614+). Is this correct?
If so, my second guess(tm) is you really don't have a proper WEP key
to the back router. There are problems going from the ASCII WEP key
to Hex. Type in the WEP in Hex, not ASCII and it will always work.
Even though you claim you have a wireless connection and an IP
address, I don't quite believe it because you are unable to ping the
very device that claims to have delivered the IP address to the Vista
laptop. That's not possible. If it gave your laptop an IP address,
you should be able to ping it.
Incidentally, you might want to simplify troubleshooting by unplugging
the unused front router (DI-624+) until you get the problems with the
back router untangled. If you've done something disgusting, like
enable the DHCP server in both routers, you're going to have weird
route problems.
>Update;
>
>Front router is D link 614+ wep 128bit hex
>Back router is D Link 624+ wep 128 bit hex
>Both current firmware from D Link site.
When you get things working, I strongly suggest you abandon WEP and
switch to WPA or WPA2. WEP can be easily cracked and is nearly
worthless for security.
>624+ router prefered in back for faster wireless speed to stream video from
>media center computer(s)
Bingo. Setup the DI-614+ (802.11b only) as an access point, not as a
router. Disable the DHCP server, setup the IP addres to not conflict
with the DI-624+, and connect a cable between LAN ports on both boxes.
You don't want 2 routers in the system. I'm assuming your broadband
connection is plugged into the DI-624+.
>Swapped routers, DHCP still front router (now 624+). Access point back
>router(now 614+).
>Network connectivity is good on both, but video is choppy due to slow W/L
>speed of the 614+ router. Looks good when W/L connected to the 624+ router.
See above suggestion. You have 2 DHCP servers and 2 routers which is
generally a lousy idea. It can be made to work, but there's no reason
for it. Convert the DI-614+ into an access point and be done with it.
>Is this a Vista or old router problem?
Neigher. It's a configuration issue with your two routers.
>I want my videos by the pool!
Sink or swim?
>Any suggestions?
In the future, you'll get better answers if you organize your
questions somewhat differently:
1. What are you trying to accomplish? One line is fine.
2. What to you have to work with? Hardware, software, version
numbers.
3. What have you tried and what happened? Error messages.
Your question had all the above and then some, but was organized so
that it read best starting from the bottom of the message.
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