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Old 11-07-2006, 06:29 PM
nondisclosure007@gmail.com
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Default WAP on a windows machine

Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
to anything so it's available.

TIA!


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Old 11-07-2006, 06:40 PM
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nondisclosure007@gmail.com hath wroth:

>Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
>2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
>to anything so it's available.


SoftAP.
http://www.nat32.com/nat32e/htm/softap.htm
I'm too lazy to Google for a suitable download site.

Intel drops their SoftAP product:
http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/news/article.php/3413761

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Old 11-07-2006, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: WAP on a windows machine

This can be accomplished by creating an "ad hoc" network. Steps can be
found in Windows help or at the end of this article:
http://www.jiwire.com/wi-fi-os-setup-windows-xp.htm

christopher chalfant


nondisclosure007@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
> 2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
> to anything so it's available.
>
> TIA!



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Old 11-07-2006, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: WAP on a windows machine

I don't want to run in 'ad-hoc' mode. I specifically want the features
of a WAP.
ChrisPC wrote:
> This can be accomplished by creating an "ad hoc" network. Steps can be
> found in Windows help or at the end of this article:
> http://www.jiwire.com/wi-fi-os-setup-windows-xp.htm
>
> christopher chalfant
>
>
> nondisclosure007@gmail.com wrote:
> > Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
> > 2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
> > to anything so it's available.
> >
> > TIA!



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Old 11-07-2006, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: WAP on a windows machine

Thanks! I'll play around w/ what they suggest here and let y'all know
how it went.

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> nondisclosure007@gmail.com hath wroth:
>
> >Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
> >2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
> >to anything so it's available.

>
> SoftAP.
> http://www.nat32.com/nat32e/htm/softap.htm
> I'm too lazy to Google for a suitable download site.
>
> Intel drops their SoftAP product:
> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/news/article.php/3413761
>
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> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558



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Old 11-07-2006, 10:08 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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On 7 Nov 2006 12:55:56 -0800, nondisclosure007@gmail.com wrote:

>Thanks! I'll play around w/ what they suggest here and let y'all know
>how it went.


Yeah, you can even play "Evil Twin" and take over the world.

Some dingbat is making my life interesting. He's got a high power
access point at apparently a very high location running a software AP.
I can hear it almost anywhere in Santa Cruz County. It advertises an
SSID of "Free Open Internet" or something like that. The problem is
that he also has a random MAC address generator running that's ruining
my WarDriving logs and crashing some of my customers wireless client
software by overflowing the "Show available networks" feature. I
guess I get to go on a search and destroy mission shortly. Anyway,
please use the SoftAP wisely as there's considerable potential for
intentional and accidental abuse.

Also, there are similar packages for Linux but you asked for Windoze.


>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> nondisclosure007@gmail.com hath wroth:
>>
>> >Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
>> >2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
>> >to anything so it's available.

>>
>> SoftAP.
>> http://www.nat32.com/nat32e/htm/softap.htm
>> I'm too lazy to Google for a suitable download site.
>>
>> Intel drops their SoftAP product:
>> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/news/article.php/3413761



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Old 11-07-2006, 10:16 PM
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:28:40 -0700, massello@newsguy.com (Neill
Massello) wrote:

><nondisclosure007@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't want to run in 'ad-hoc' mode. I specifically want the features
>> of a WAP.

>
>I don't mean to nitpick, but "WAP" stands for Wireless Application
>Protocol. Using it as shorthand for "wireless access point" tends to
>cause confusion. Instead, use "infrastructure mode" or "access point" or
>"AP" or "base station".


26 other meanings of WAP:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WAP
I like #4.

The local Mexicans refer to someone "Without Any Papers" as a WAP.

What will we do when we run out of TLA's?

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Old 11-07-2006, 11:01 PM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On 7 Nov 2006 12:55:56 -0800, nondisclosure007@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I'll play around w/ what they suggest here and let y'all know
>> how it went.

>
> Yeah, you can even play "Evil Twin" and take over the world.
>
> Some dingbat is making my life interesting. He's got a high power
> access point at apparently a very high location running a software AP.
> I can hear it almost anywhere in Santa Cruz County. It advertises an
> SSID of "Free Open Internet" or something like that. The problem is
> that he also has a random MAC address generator running that's ruining
> my WarDriving logs and crashing some of my customers wireless client
> software by overflowing the "Show available networks" feature. I
> guess I get to go on a search and destroy mission shortly. Anyway,
> please use the SoftAP wisely as there's considerable potential for
> intentional and accidental abuse.
>


This could actually not be a single AP running. It could be a flaw in
Windows XP WZC rearing its head. I heard about it on a podcast the
other day. It seems that if once you try to connect to the Adhoc "Free
Open Internet" you can connect and somehow your machine will start
broadcast itself as the same thing. Apparently this guy was on a flight
and noticed this connection while using his computer inflight. By the
end of the flight there were over 10 differnent MACs (not Macs)
broadcasting "Free Open Internet". It could be that you are actually
seeing many different "infected" computers that have begun spewing out
"Free Open Internet." I don't have a link to this story, but the
Podcast was "This Week in Tech" <http://www.twit.tv>

Here is a blog about it:
<http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html>

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Old 11-08-2006, 02:56 AM
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:01:44 -0700, Bryant Smith
<bryantthesmith@lycos.com> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On 7 Nov 2006 12:55:56 -0800, nondisclosure007@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! I'll play around w/ what they suggest here and let y'all know
>>> how it went.

>>
>> Yeah, you can even play "Evil Twin" and take over the world.
>>
>> Some dingbat is making my life interesting. He's got a high power
>> access point at apparently a very high location running a software AP.
>> I can hear it almost anywhere in Santa Cruz County. It advertises an
>> SSID of "Free Open Internet" or something like that. The problem is
>> that he also has a random MAC address generator running that's ruining
>> my WarDriving logs and crashing some of my customers wireless client
>> software by overflowing the "Show available networks" feature. I
>> guess I get to go on a search and destroy mission shortly. Anyway,
>> please use the SoftAP wisely as there's considerable potential for
>> intentional and accidental abuse.


>This could actually not be a single AP running. It could be a flaw in
>Windows XP WZC rearing its head. I heard about it on a podcast the
>other day. It seems that if once you try to connect to the Adhoc "Free
>Open Internet" you can connect and somehow your machine will start
>broadcast itself as the same thing. Apparently this guy was on a flight
>and noticed this connection while using his computer inflight. By the
>end of the flight there were over 10 differnent MACs (not Macs)
>broadcasting "Free Open Internet". It could be that you are actually
>seeing many different "infected" computers that have begun spewing out
>"Free Open Internet." I don't have a link to this story, but the
>Podcast was "This Week in Tech" <http://www.twit.tv>
>
>Here is a blog about it:
><http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html>


Amazing. Yes, that's what I've been seeing literally everywhere (so I
assumed that it was a high power or high altitude xmitter). I never
considered the possibility that it might be yet another Windoze XP
bug. There is one difference with what I've been seen. The author
claims that what he was seeing were all Ad-Hoc networks. The stuff
I'm watching are all infrastructure mode. I'll dig deeper if I can
find the time. I should run strings on some of the Windoze wireless
DLL's and see if "free public WiFi" appears.

Thanks for the explanation and saving me a futile transmiter hunt.

Incidentally, I do have a MAC address generator that I used for
testing wireless access points, router, and bridges. (It's
proprietary so I can't give out copies). It will generate random MAC
addresses until the access point gives up. I usually use my phone
number for the SSID so that if I'm bothering someone, they can phone
me and complain. So far, in about 6 years, nobody has called. It
looks almost identical on a sniffer or Windoze Wireless Zero Config.


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Old 11-08-2006, 03:04 AM
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:56:18 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

>>Here is a blog about it:
>><http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html>


Here's a bit clearer explanation of the "Free Public WiFi" problem.
http://www.nmrc.org/pub/advise/20060114.txt

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Old 11-08-2006, 03:54 AM
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nondisclosure007@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there any software out there that will let me use my windows pc (xp,
> 2003) as a WAP too? I'm not using the wireless nic in there to connect
> to anything so it's available.


For what its worth, you can try a Hawking USB unit that can be used
as an actual AP.

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Old 11-08-2006, 07:01 AM
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:04:51 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
<l2i2l2hjov2craq1g2p2hhr4d6gddrjubn@4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:56:18 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
><jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>
>>>Here is a blog about it:
>>><http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html>

>
>Here's a bit clearer explanation of the "Free Public WiFi" problem.
> http://www.nmrc.org/pub/advise/20060114.txt


The basic problem here is the failure to set a unique SSID, not a
Windows issue.

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Old 11-08-2006, 12:03 PM
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:16:29 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

..
>
>What will we do when we run out of TLA's?
>


Expand to FLA's :)

I increasingly have to use http://silmaril.ie/cgi-bin/uncgi/acronyms

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