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Old 11-04-2006, 05:29 PM
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Default WAP54 - WPC54 question please

I have my WAP54 wireless access point connected to a router on
my desktop system providing
a wireless link to my laptop using a PC Card WPC54. On my laptop
when I do ipconfig /all I see that my IP address is 192.168.15.100.
Question: was this address assigned by my desktop router DHCP thru
the wireless link? The address is consistent with all the other IP's
the router assigned. I'd just like to understand more how this DHCP stuff
works. There could be some DHCP thing inside my laptop but if so
I don't know where it is. Thanks.

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Old 11-04-2006, 11:09 PM
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"rob" <robIV@piovere.com> wrote in message
news:H543h.4218$Qn2.2360@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>I have my WAP54 wireless access point connected to a router on
> my desktop system providing
> a wireless link to my laptop using a PC Card WPC54. On my laptop
> when I do ipconfig /all I see that my IP address is 192.168.15.100.
> Question: was this address assigned by my desktop router DHCP thru
> the wireless link? The address is consistent with all the other IP's
> the router assigned. I'd just like to understand more how this DHCP stuff
> works. There could be some DHCP thing inside my laptop but if so
> I don't know where it is. Thanks.


Most likely the IP address assignment was made by a DHCP process inside your
NAT router. That's the usual arrangement.


Regards,


-Bob Bosen-
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Old 11-05-2006, 12:09 AM
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rob wrote:
> I have my WAP54 wireless access point connected to a router on
> my desktop system providing
> a wireless link to my laptop using a PC Card WPC54. On my laptop
> when I do ipconfig /all I see that my IP address is 192.168.15.100.
> Question: was this address assigned by my desktop router DHCP thru
> the wireless link? The address is consistent with all the other IP's
> the router assigned. I'd just like to understand more how this DHCP stuff
> works. There could be some DHCP thing inside my laptop but if so
> I don't know where it is. Thanks.


Depends what mode your WAP54G is set for. Out of the box, its a simple
bridging access point and it passes the IP address from the router's DHCP
server. Is something not working or you just curious how it works?

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Old 11-05-2006, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: WAP54 - WPC54 question please

Thanks all for the opinions. Basically I'm curious how these things
work. You get an IP address but where did it come from? I was thinking
that the laptop may be sort of a closed system and any IP addresses it
gets may come from the laptop itself. But if so, I don't know who the
DHCP server is. The only possibilities are the PC Card in the laptop
or the main router on the desktop system. Any way to tell for sure?

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Old 11-05-2006, 02:05 AM
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rob wrote:

> Thanks all for the opinions. Basically I'm curious how these things
> work. You get an IP address but where did it come from? I was thinking
> that the laptop may be sort of a closed system and any IP addresses it
> gets may come from the laptop itself. But if so, I don't know who the
> DHCP server is. The only possibilities are the PC Card in the laptop
> or the main router on the desktop system. Any way to tell for sure?



Examine the set-up on the WAP54 by accessing it through a hardwired
connection at 192.168.1.245. Check to see whether teh WAP is set to be
a DHCP server.

Otherwise, have a look at your router set-up. Probably, its set to be a
DHCP server. The address range (atarting at 192.168.1.100) looks like a
typical router assigned address.

When the laptop connects, it broadcasts its identity. The DHCP server
sees the broadcast and assigns an address. More often than not, the
address goes into a "reservation table" so that when the same device
reappears on the network, the same address will be assigned to it again.


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Old 11-05-2006, 03:04 PM
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rob wrote:
> Thanks all for the opinions. Basically I'm curious how these things
> work. You get an IP address but where did it come from? I was thinking
> that the laptop may be sort of a closed system and any IP addresses it
> gets may come from the laptop itself. But if so, I don't know who the
> DHCP server is. The only possibilities are the PC Card in the laptop
> or the main router on the desktop system. Any way to tell for sure?


To expand on what XORBIT is saying...

Connect your WAP54 directly to your laptop. It won't hurt to default
the AP to factory settings with a full 30 second hard reset, that way
you'll know you have a known starting place. Since the default address
is 192.168.1.245, you need to set your laptop's TCP/IP to static IP
and address to something like 192.168.1.10 and them web browser
into the AP.

The WAP54 defaults to AP mode and will start up in the
Setup > Basic Setup tab. Use these settings:

Configuration Type - Static IP
IP Address: 192.168.15.10
* The .15 is an odd address for a home router to assign, might be
something you selected intentionally, nevertheless that's OK.
It appears your router's dynamic IP pool starts at .100, so
using .10 will be fine, just make sure no other devices are set
for 192.168.15.10 in your network.
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.15.1
* This would be your router's IP address. IPCONFIG from one of
your other devices will confirm that.

Set your laptop back to dynamic IP and power cycle your WAP54 and
it will grab an IP address of 192.168.15.1xx from the router. Also
to a Repair on your laptop's network connection to clear any
previous settings.

The Linksys WAP54 is a pretty versatile device. It can act as a
simple Access Point, Repeater, Wireless Bridge, and even a Client.

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Old 11-05-2006, 08:12 PM
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decaturtxcowboy wrote:

> rob wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for the opinions. Basically I'm curious how these things
>> work. You get an IP address but where did it come from? I was thinking
>> that the laptop may be sort of a closed system and any IP addresses it
>> gets may come from the laptop itself. But if so, I don't know who the
>> DHCP server is. The only possibilities are the PC Card in the laptop
>> or the main router on the desktop system. Any way to tell for sure?

>
>
> To expand on what XORBIT is saying...
>
> Connect your WAP54 directly to your laptop.

Do you mean to set my laptop next to the WAP54 and physically
plug a cable between the two? Seems weird but I don't know
any other way to make a direct hookup. This means that the
WAP54 is no longer hooked to the router. Then it can't get
an address from the router as you suggest below. I guess I'm
not following you.

Thanks for trying to help.


It won't hurt to default
> the AP to factory settings with a full 30 second hard reset, that way
> you'll know you have a known starting place. Since the default address
> is 192.168.1.245, you need to set your laptop's TCP/IP to static IP
> and address to something like 192.168.1.10 and them web browser
> into the AP.
>
> The WAP54 defaults to AP mode and will start up in the
> Setup > Basic Setup tab. Use these settings:
>
> Configuration Type - Static IP
> IP Address: 192.168.15.10
> * The .15 is an odd address for a home router to assign, might be
> something you selected intentionally, nevertheless that's OK.
> It appears your router's dynamic IP pool starts at .100, so
> using .10 will be fine, just make sure no other devices are set
> for 192.168.15.10 in your network.
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Gateway: 192.168.15.1
> * This would be your router's IP address. IPCONFIG from one of
> your other devices will confirm that.
>
> Set your laptop back to dynamic IP and power cycle your WAP54 and
> it will grab an IP address of 192.168.15.1xx from the router. Also
> to a Repair on your laptop's network connection to clear any
> previous settings.
>
> The Linksys WAP54 is a pretty versatile device. It can act as a
> simple Access Point, Repeater, Wireless Bridge, and even a Client.


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Old 11-05-2006, 09:00 PM
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rob wrote:

> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
>> rob wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for the opinions. Basically I'm curious how these things
>>> work. You get an IP address but where did it come from? I was thinking
>>> that the laptop may be sort of a closed system and any IP addresses it
>>> gets may come from the laptop itself. But if so, I don't know who the
>>> DHCP server is. The only possibilities are the PC Card in the laptop
>>> or the main router on the desktop system. Any way to tell for sure?

>>
>>
>>
>> To expand on what XORBIT is saying...
>>
>> Connect your WAP54 directly to your laptop.

>
> Do you mean to set my laptop next to the WAP54 and physically
> plug a cable between the two? Seems weird but I don't know
> any other way to make a direct hookup. This means that the
> WAP54 is no longer hooked to the router. Then it can't get
> an address from the router as you suggest below. I guess I'm
> not following you.
>
> Thanks for trying to help.
>


Not necessarily. Plug your laptop into a port on your router. Your
computer needs to access the router and WAP through a hardwaired
connection, not a wireless connection.

>
> It won't hurt to default
>
>> the AP to factory settings with a full 30 second hard reset, that way
>> you'll know you have a known starting place. Since the default address
>> is 192.168.1.245, you need to set your laptop's TCP/IP to static IP
>> and address to something like 192.168.1.10 and them web browser
>> into the AP.
>>
>> The WAP54 defaults to AP mode and will start up in the
>> Setup > Basic Setup tab. Use these settings:
>>
>> Configuration Type - Static IP
>> IP Address: 192.168.15.10
>> * The .15 is an odd address for a home router to assign, might be
>> something you selected intentionally, nevertheless that's OK.
>> It appears your router's dynamic IP pool starts at .100, so
>> using .10 will be fine, just make sure no other devices are set
>> for 192.168.15.10 in your network.
>> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>> Gateway: 192.168.15.1
>> * This would be your router's IP address. IPCONFIG from one of
>> your other devices will confirm that.
>>
>> Set your laptop back to dynamic IP and power cycle your WAP54 and
>> it will grab an IP address of 192.168.15.1xx from the router. Also
>> to a Repair on your laptop's network connection to clear any
>> previous settings.
>>
>> The Linksys WAP54 is a pretty versatile device. It can act as a
>> simple Access Point, Repeater, Wireless Bridge, and even a Client.



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Old 11-05-2006, 09:51 PM
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xorbit wrote:
>
>
> rob wrote:
>
>> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>>
>>> rob wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all for the opinions. Basically I'm curious how these things
>>>> work. You get an IP address but where did it come from? I was thinking
>>>> that the laptop may be sort of a closed system and any IP addresses it
>>>> gets may come from the laptop itself. But if so, I don't know who the
>>>> DHCP server is. The only possibilities are the PC Card in the laptop
>>>> or the main router on the desktop system. Any way to tell for sure?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To expand on what XORBIT is saying...
>>>
>>> Connect your WAP54 directly to your laptop.

>>
>>
>> Do you mean to set my laptop next to the WAP54 and physically
>> plug a cable between the two? Seems weird but I don't know
>> any other way to make a direct hookup. This means that the
>> WAP54 is no longer hooked to the router. Then it can't get
>> an address from the router as you suggest below. I guess I'm
>> not following you.
>>
>> Thanks for trying to help.
>>

>
> Not necessarily. Plug your laptop into a port on your router. Your
> computer needs to access the router and WAP through a hardwaired
> connection, not a wireless connection.
>
>>
>> It won't hurt to default
>>
>>> the AP to factory settings with a full 30 second hard reset, that way
>>> you'll know you have a known starting place. Since the default address
>>> is 192.168.1.245, you need to set your laptop's TCP/IP to static IP
>>> and address to something like 192.168.1.10 and them web browser
>>> into the AP.
>>>
>>> The WAP54 defaults to AP mode and will start up in the
>>> Setup > Basic Setup tab. Use these settings:
>>>
>>> Configuration Type - Static IP
>>> IP Address: 192.168.15.10
>>> * The .15 is an odd address for a home router to assign, might be
>>> something you selected intentionally, nevertheless that's OK.
>>> It appears your router's dynamic IP pool starts at .100, so
>>> using .10 will be fine, just make sure no other devices are set
>>> for 192.168.15.10 in your network.
>>> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>>> Gateway: 192.168.15.1
>>> * This would be your router's IP address. IPCONFIG from one of
>>> your other devices will confirm that.
>>>
>>> Set your laptop back to dynamic IP and power cycle your WAP54 and
>>> it will grab an IP address of 192.168.15.1xx from the router. Also
>>> to a Repair on your laptop's network connection to clear any
>>> previous settings.
>>>
>>> The Linksys WAP54 is a pretty versatile device. It can act as a
>>> simple Access Point, Repeater, Wireless Bridge, and even a Client.

>
>

Thank you for the clarification. I wish I knew how to make the WAP54
do all these things. I can't find any documention in the shrink wrapped
box I got. Just a CD.

Another question please: I've looked high and low on my desktop box for
some evidence that I have installed all that software that came off the
CD when I installed the WAP54. There's nothing in Start/Programs, nothing
in Control Panel/Add-Remove. What if I want to uninstall it, is there
anyway to rid myself of all that Linksys stuff? - I bet it put the typical
300MB on my HD? Thanks.
all that software

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Old 11-06-2006, 02:05 AM
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rob wrote:
>>

> Thank you for the clarification. I wish I knew how to make the WAP54
> do all these things. I can't find any documention in the shrink wrapped
> box I got. Just a CD.
>


Browse through this link:

http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satel...VisitorWrapper

I've got a WAP54G and there are a lot of options, most of which I will
never use or even consder.



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Old 11-06-2006, 02:06 AM
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rob wrote:
>
> Another question please: I've looked high and low on my desktop box for
> some evidence that I have installed all that software that came off the
> CD when I installed the WAP54. There's nothing in Start/Programs, nothing
> in Control Panel/Add-Remove. What if I want to uninstall it, is there
> anyway to rid myself of all that Linksys stuff? - I bet it put the typical
> 300MB on my HD? Thanks.
> all that software


I think if you're using XP, its a matter of installing / deinstalling
drvers. See the "Device Manager" for that info.


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