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Old 07-25-2006, 06:03 AM
TahoeKid
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Default WAP54G problem

I've been using my Linksys WAP54G for quite sometime now (over a year),
always worked. I decided to relocate it to a better spot to be closer
to other computers. I purchased a 25 foot CAT5 cable and relocated it,
and it stopped working.

Thinking it was a bad cable, I restored the original cable (moving it
back to original location) and it still does not work. I tried doing a
reset, still nothing. The power LED is on, and the ACT and Link LEDs go
on and off intermittently. I tried swapping the connector on the hub
with the one connected to the main wired machine, but nothing goes. The
wired network is fine (DSL). Not sure why it went south.


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Old 07-25-2006, 06:33 AM
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"TahoeKid" <rfdunn@hotmail.com> hath wroth:

>I've been using my Linksys WAP54G for quite sometime now (over a year),
>always worked. I decided to relocate it to a better spot to be closer
>to other computers. I purchased a 25 foot CAT5 cable and relocated it,
>and it stopped working.
>
>Thinking it was a bad cable, I restored the original cable (moving it
>back to original location) and it still does not work. I tried doing a
>reset, still nothing.


If you performed a hard reset (with a paper clip) you probably cleared
all the settings in the WAP54G and returned it to defaults. Can you
access the internal web config server at:
http://192.168.1.245/
Are the settings still there?

It's also possible that plugging in a new cable into the WAP54G
mangled the RJ45 jack on either the WAP54G or whatever computah you
have the other end plugged into. I've done this a few times so I know
it's possible. It's usually caused by a bad connector or partial
crimp where one of the gold pins in the cable RJ45 isn't crimped in
all the way. That causes the gold wires in the receptacle to be
mashed, twisted, or bent wrong. A visual inspection will usually show
the problem.

Also, check the wiring on the two cables. Are they normal EIA-568A/B
cables or are they the crossover type? If the old cable worked, make
sure the new cable is the same type.

>The power LED is on, and the ACT and Link LEDs go
>on and off intermittently. I tried swapping the connector on the hub
>with the one connected to the main wired machine, but nothing goes. The
>wired network is fine (DSL). Not sure why it went south.


What's at the other end of the wireless link? Do you have an access
point, wireless router, local coffee shop, hot spot, metro wi-fi,
neighbors system, or are using ICS on the "main wired machine"?

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: WAP54G problem

It's not the cable as I tried several, including the original.

There's no ping so I assume nothing would load using http, though I did
not try loading it into a browser.

The other end is a hub. The hub also contains the input from DSL modem,
and a hard-wired local machine. I tried swapping slots with the other
computer, the other computer has no problem with the hub, so it is not
the hub. It seems something going on with the access point itself.

I also see you're a Santa Cruz local.

- Roger


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Old 07-26-2006, 05:51 AM
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"TahoeKid" <rfdunn@hotmail.com> hath wroth:

>It's not the cable as I tried several, including the original.


Just to make sure, do the lights illuminate when you plug the cable
in? Check both the WAP54G and the hub.

>There's no ping so I assume nothing would load using http, though I did
>not try loading it into a browser.


Bad assumption. What IP address are you pinging?

Are you using a static IP on the client? If you're expecting a DHCP
assigned IP address throught the WAP54G, it won't happen as long as
it's playing dead. You'll need to assign the client a suitable IP
address such as 192.168.1.10. Then, try to ping the WAP54G at
192.168.1.245.

Hint: If you questions and replys don't have any numbers, you're
leaving out important information.

>The other end is a hub. The hub also contains the input from DSL modem,
>and a hard-wired local machine.


No router? Where are you getting the IP address for the WAP54G? (It
has a DHCP client).

Where are you getting the IP address for the configuring computah?

Incidentally, how are you connecting two computahs to a DSL modem
without a router? Do you have more than one IP address from your DSL
ISP?

>I tried swapping slots with the other
>computer, the other computer has no problem with the hub, so it is not
>the hub. It seems something going on with the access point itself.


Good guess. Now test it with a different laptop.

>I also see you're a Santa Cruz local.


Yep. Call me if you're desperate or drag the WAP54G to my palatial
office and I'll try to revive the dead or perform last rites.


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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Old 07-31-2006, 12:31 AM
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Problem solved.

It turns out it was a power supply problem. The outlet for which the PS
was connected was producing too low a voltage. The power light came on,
but the unit was not functioning. "Lights on but no one home".


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Old 07-31-2006, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: WAP54G problem

Although the initial problem was solved, now that the unit has reset
itself I am now where I was a year or so ago, though I don't remember
how I solved this one.

In review, my setup is DSL modem connected to hub. Connected to the hub
is a wired PC and the wireless Access Point.

I had this setup so that I could gain internet access via the Access
Point - hub - dsl modem. This would work even when the other PC was
off, no internet connection sharing going on.

I can talk to the Access Point if I connect a laptop and wire it into
the hub, then set the IP address of the laptop to be something like
192.168.1.5.

I experimented with various combinations of IP. DNS and DHCP settings
to no avail.

If I run ipconfig from my wired machine I get this:

Windows IP Configuration

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : cruzio.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : cruzio.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 S Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.86.240
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.86.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.95.8
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.95.8
63.249.95.9
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 30, 2006
4:50:52 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 30, 2006
8:50:52 PM

What settings should I place into Access Point to allow internet access
to wireless pcs?


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Old 07-31-2006, 06:44 AM
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"TahoeKid" <rfdunn@hotmail.com> hath wroth:

>In review, my setup is DSL modem connected to hub. Connected to the hub
>is a wired PC and the wireless Access Point.


OK, you get ONE and only ONE computer connected to Cruzio.
I would STRONGLY suggest you get a router.

> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.86.240
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.86.1
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.95.8
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 63.249.95.8
> 63.249.95.9


OK, Cruzio is working. Since you don't have a router, you'll get an
IP address (63.249.86.240) in this case, from the Cruzio DHCP server.
The WAP54G is a bridge and knowns nothing about IP addresses. Let's
start with setting up the WAP54G.

1. Setup your computah with a static IP address of 192.168.1.5.
2. Run a CAT5 cable between the computah and the ethernet ports on
the WAP54G. No need to be connected to the DSL modem.
3. Go unto:
http://192.168.1.245/
which should be the configuration page for teh WAP54G.
4. Go to the "mode" page and select "access point" mode.
http://www.linksysdata.com/ui/WAP54G/v3/3.01/Setup.htm
5. Go to the "wireless" page and set a:
- channel (1, 6, or 11)
- Unique SSID
Leave everything else at defaults for now. That include encryption,
which should be disabled at this time. Save and exit.
6. Unplug the CAT5 cable.
7. Fire up your computah and search for your SSID via wireless. Try
to connect. It should work. Try to connect to the wireless setup
page at:
http://192.168.1.245/
8. Plug the CAT5 cable between the WAP54G and the DSL modem. Change
the computers IP setup from static IP to DHCP. You should get a new
DHCP IP address from Cruzio. Check with IP config. If that works,
try surfing the web or something.
9. Now, go back to the static IP address (192.168.1.5), connect to
the router setup page, and setup encryption. I suggest you use
WPA-PSK (WPA-Personal) for decent security.





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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:04 PM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> "TahoeKid" <rfdunn@hotmail.com> hath wroth:
>
> >In review, my setup is DSL modem connected to hub. Connected to the hub
> >is a wired PC and the wireless Access Point.

>
> OK, you get ONE and only ONE computer connected to Cruzio.
> I would STRONGLY suggest you get a router.



Thanks for the info. I was also advised by my IT guy at work to get a
router.... So I got a
wirless router/firewall and it all worked out of the box. I wasted way
too much time trying to make this work without one. So, Life's a beach
with a wireless router.

- Roger


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