I forgot the WEP key for my wireless router and the reset button on my
router doenst work. How do I reveal the network password that was typed in
windows XP for this wireless network?
Navigate to the router's admin page (192.168.0.1 or similar) with your
browser and look at the WEP key?
Guy
"Kosmo Kramer" <Kramer@Kramarica.com> wrote in message
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>I forgot the WEP key for my wireless router and the reset button on my
>router doenst work. How do I reveal the network password that was typed in
>windows XP for this wireless network?
>
"Kosmo Kramer" <Kramer@Kramarica.com> wrote in message
news:12iuvrv7ehe0a0e@corp.supernews.com...
> ...and the reset button on my
> router doenst work.
Doubtful. More like you don't actually have access to the router or
permission to change it.
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:09:05 +0100, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in
<6j30j2tlb2lv32l9fpu6lj6fi0v8tflakc@4ax.com>:
>On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:22:54 +0100, in alt.internet.wireless ,
>"Bigguy" <gtittley@remove.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Navigate to the router's admin page (192.168.0.1 or similar) with your
>>browser and look at the WEP key?
>
>It'd be a pretty rubbish router that stored and displayed a security
>password in plaintext.
Since the password can be changed, there's no real value to keeping it
obscured (unless you're just worried about someone looking over your
shoulder:). The real security is from the admin password.
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:07:15 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>Since the password can be changed, there's no real value to keeping it
>obscured (unless you're just worried about someone looking over your
>shoulder:). The real security is from the admin password.
Sure there's a value. It's a typing test. If you can blindly type
the WEP key twice, while seeing only asterisks on the screen, then you
have passed the manufacturers typing test and are therefore qualified
to operate a wireless router. Microsoft also has a similar typing
test in Wireless Zero Config, where the user is required to blindly
type the WEP key TWICE in or order to qualify.
In this case, the OP couldn't disclose the model number of the router.
Therefore, I suspect they will fail the typing test and be rejected as
a qualified wireless router operator.
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:26:41 GMT, Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in
<sre0j2lq64pupqpk7h2053vn13ckv8dncm@4ax.com>:
>On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:07:15 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>Since the password can be changed, there's no real value to keeping it
>>obscured (unless you're just worried about someone looking over your
>>shoulder:). The real security is from the admin password.
>
>Sure there's a value. It's a typing test. If you can blindly type
>the WEP key twice, while seeing only asterisks on the screen, then you
>have passed the manufacturers typing test and are therefore qualified
>to operate a wireless router. Microsoft also has a similar typing
>test in Wireless Zero Config, where the user is required to blindly
>type the WEP key TWICE in or order to qualify.
Thank God for copy-and-paste!
>In this case, the OP couldn't disclose the model number of the router.
>Therefore, I suspect they will fail the typing test and be rejected as
>a qualified wireless router operator.
LOL! (Thanks -- I needed that.)
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:07:15 GMT, John Navas
> <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> Since the password can be changed, there's no real value to keeping it
>> obscured (unless you're just worried about someone looking over your
>> shoulder:). The real security is from the admin password.
>
> Sure there's a value. It's a typing test. If you can blindly type
> the WEP key twice, while seeing only asterisks on the screen, then you
> have passed the manufacturers typing test and are therefore qualified
> to operate a wireless router. Microsoft also has a similar typing
> test in Wireless Zero Config, where the user is required to blindly
> type the WEP key TWICE in or order to qualify.
I always think "who thought of this?".
>
> In this case, the OP couldn't disclose the model number of the router.
> Therefore, I suspect they will fail the typing test and be rejected as
> a qualified wireless router operator.
>
>
Kosmo Kramer wrote:
> I forgot the WEP key for my wireless router and the reset button on my
> router doenst work. How do I reveal the network password that was typed in
> windows XP for this wireless network?
>
>
That often happens when it is in someone else's building...
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:25:57 -0400, George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <OqadnU3fX7Dubq3YnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com>:
>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:07:15 GMT, John Navas
>> <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Since the password can be changed, there's no real value to keeping it
>>> obscured (unless you're just worried about someone looking over your
>>> shoulder:). The real security is from the admin password.
>>
>> Sure there's a value. It's a typing test. If you can blindly type
>> the WEP key twice, while seeing only asterisks on the screen, then you
>> have passed the manufacturers typing test and are therefore qualified
>> to operate a wireless router. Microsoft also has a similar typing
>> test in Wireless Zero Config, where the user is required to blindly
>> type the WEP key TWICE in or order to qualify.
>
>I always think "who thought of this?".
New hire fresh out of school. :)
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>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> Microsoft also has a similar typing
>> test in Wireless Zero Config, where the user is required to blindly
>> type the WEP key TWICE in or order to qualify.
>I always think "who thought of this?".
A better question would be "what were they thinking" or "was any
testing done on this"?
Wireless Zero Config could only have been written by someone that
didn't understand why one types the password in twice on an access
point (in case you mistyped it, you get locked out of the access
point), but doesn't understand why it's not necessary to do the same
for the client.
The same typing test also appears for licensing the various Microsoft
products. It's long enough to constitute a barrier to installation
for anyone that can't type. I'm absolutely certain that this was
intentional on the part of Microsoft. Every other number, such as the
product ID, has a bar code under the number but not the product serial
number. I have a bar code reader (CueCat) in the office that could
easily read a bar code serial number, but MS insists that I type it in
by hand. Such an omission could only be intentional.
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:38:17 -0700, in alt.internet.wireless , Jeff
Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>intentional on the part of Microsoft. Every other number, such as the
>product ID, has a bar code under the number but not the product serial
>number. I have a bar code reader (CueCat) in the office that could
>easily read a bar code serial number, but MS insists that I type it in
>by hand. Such an omission could only be intentional.
You know you can tell MS products to read the serial no from a file,
right? Thats how one does unattended installation.
(and yes, I agree its intentional, its to force a real human to
install the s/w, as an anti-piracy measure. Don't ask me why that
would work, its as sane as typing in the password twice).
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