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Old 03-09-2007, 09:20 PM
jmDesktop
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Default What is the best wireless router for up to 15 computers?

Hi, I have 15 computers that need to connect to the Internet. I have
DSL or Cable, from the device/cable modem I will have a wire to a
wireless router, from the router it will wirelesly connect (of course)
to the individual wireless computers. The router supplying each PC an
IP and access to the Internet.

What should I buy that can accomodate that many computers? I know
it's not a lot of PCs, but I'm afraid it would overwhelm a $49.95 D-
Link (or some other brand.) I was hoping for advice on this. I'd
like to spend under $200 if possible, less if possible; that's the top
end.

Thank you for any help.


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Old 03-09-2007, 10:57 PM
Mark McIntyre
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On 9 Mar 2007 14:20:54 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , "jmDesktop"
<needin4mation@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi, I have 15 computers that need to connect to the Internet. I have
>DSL or Cable, from the device/cable modem I will have a wire to a
>wireless router, from the router it will wirelesly connect (of course)
>to the individual wireless computers. The router supplying each PC an
>IP and access to the Internet.
>
>What should I buy that can accomodate that many computers?


I doubt many retail wireless routers would support this lot - plus at
best each would get 1/15th of the bandwidth, maybe less than a
megabit. Ok for web/email but no good for heavy traffic.

You could zone your network into three or four, use one wirelsss
router and a couple of APs on different channels. Unless you're
attached to a really high speed line, you're total thruput is limited
by the downstream anyway.

>it's not a lot of PCs, but I'm afraid it would overwhelm


Certainly if all 15 are p2ping. Presumably this is educational or
business howeverg, so that won't be an issue you would hope.
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: What is the best wireless router for up to 15 computers?

On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, Mark McIntyre <markmcint...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2007 14:20:54 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless , "jmDesktop"
>
> <needin4mat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hi, I have 15 computers that need to connect to the Internet. I have
> >DSL or Cable, from the device/cable modem I will have a wire to a
> >wireless router, from the router it will wirelesly connect (of course)
> >to the individual wireless computers. The router supplying each PC an
> >IP and access to the Internet.

>
> >What should I buy that can accomodate that many computers?

>
> I doubt many retail wireless routers would support this lot - plus at
> best each would get 1/15th of the bandwidth, maybe less than a
> megabit. Ok for web/email but no good for heavy traffic.
>
> You could zone your network into three or four, use one wirelsss
> router and a couple of APs on different channels. Unless you're
> attached to a really high speed line, you're total thruput is limited
> by the downstream anyway.
>
> >it's not a lot of PCs, but I'm afraid it would overwhelm

>
> Certainly if all 15 are p2ping. Presumably this is educational or
> business howeverg, so that won't be an issue you would hope.
> --
> Mark McIntyre


Do you have a recommendation on what to buy?


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Old 03-10-2007, 03:29 AM
John Navas
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On 9 Mar 2007 14:20:54 -0800, "jmDesktop" <needin4mation@gmail.com>
wrote in <1173478854.479302.104400@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>:

>Hi, I have 15 computers that need to connect to the Internet. I have
>DSL or Cable, from the device/cable modem I will have a wire to a
>wireless router, from the router it will wirelesly connect (of course)
>to the individual wireless computers. The router supplying each PC an
>IP and access to the Internet.
>
>What should I buy that can accomodate that many computers? I know
>it's not a lot of PCs, but I'm afraid it would overwhelm a $49.95 D-
>Link (or some other brand.) I was hoping for advice on this. I'd
>like to spend under $200 if possible, less if possible; that's the top
>end.


Very good: SonicWALL TZ-150 Wireless
Good: ZyXEL G-2000 Plus

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John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:11 PM
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"jmDesktop" <needin4mation@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>Do you have a recommendation on what to buy?


No, but a I have short list of what not to buy. See:
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,156/?chart=124>
Select "Max simultaneous connections" from the pull down menu.
Anything that won't handle perhaps 30 connections is not going to
work.

I like John's suggestion of Sonicwall products. However, I can't
really offer a guaranteed to work solution as I have no clue what
these 15 computahs are going to be doing. If only one of them is into
file sharing, say goodby to your entire bandwidth. Also, I can't
visualize why you would want all of them connected via wireless.
Surely some of these are going to be sufficiently close to run CAT5
ethernet cable. A mixed system saves on wireless airtime, especially
if one of these is going to be a server.

Also, you might consider how the airtime is going to be shared. Let's
assume you're cheap and can only afford a single access point or
router. Let's also assume that all 15 users are in the same room,
same airspace, and get perfect 54Mbit/sec connections. That gives
each user the ability to move data at about 25Mbits/sec maximum from
the router. If two users are active, the maximum bandwidth goes to
12.5Mbits/sec. If all 15 users are downloading at the exact same
time, it's 1.7Mbits/sec per user. No problem as that's fast enough
for most applications. (Note: It's never this ideal and will probably
be slower).

However, if only one user has a really crappy wireless connection and
only connects at the slowest 1Mbit/sec speed, they will hog 50 times
the airtime of the 54Mbit/sec connections. I'm too lazy to calculate
the exact effect, but it will cause a massive slowdown. Therefore,
you might consider adding one or two (no more) additional access
points, on different non-overlapping channels (1, 6, or 11) putting
the slower more distant machines on one channel, and the high speed
users, on the others.

Incidentally, my office complex has 30 computers connected to a single
DSL 1500/384 kbit/sec DSL line. It works reasonably well (unless I'm
downloading updates from Microsoft). However, the reason it works is
that there are no bulk file transfers happening and that all the
server traffic never hits the DSL. However, I had to beg one user to
stop doing internet backups because it was killing the DSL for an hour
per day. In other words, your ability to make this work is totally
dependent on your traffic patterns and usage.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:01 AM
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On Mar 10, 12:29 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On 9 Mar 2007 14:20:54 -0800, "jmDesktop" <needin4mat...@gmail.com>
> wrote in <1173478854.479302.104...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>:
>
> >Hi, I have 15 computers that need to connect to the Internet. I have
> >DSL or Cable, from the device/cable modem I will have a wire to a
> >wireless router, from the router it will wirelesly connect (of course)
> >to the individual wireless computers. The router supplying each PC an
> >IP and access to the Internet.

>
> >What should I buy that can accomodate that many computers? I know
> >it's not a lot of PCs, but I'm afraid it would overwhelm a $49.95 D-
> >Link (or some other brand.) I was hoping for advice on this. I'd
> >like to spend under $200 if possible, less if possible; that's the top
> >end.

>
> Very good: SonicWALL TZ-150 Wireless
> Good: ZyXEL G-2000 Plus
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>


Thanks.


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