I have changed my notebook for a WiLAN-able notebook. Surprisingly
enough, at home, suddenly I was informed that wireless network is
provided around. So I hooked up happily, but I do not know, is it
illegal?, does it do harm to someone?, who is the ISP? how can I trace
them and come to terms with them?
Thanks, that seems logical. The SSID is SMC which is the name of a
wireless hardware company, so the wireless I have picked up is named
after the WiLAN card?
janosvajda@gmail.com (jvajda) wrote in
news:1128022508.898531.69270@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com:
> Thanks, that seems logical. The SSID is SMC which is the name of a
> wireless hardware company, so the wireless I have picked up is
> named after the WiLAN card?
That's most likely the default SSID programmed into the access point
by the manufacturer which the owner hasn't bothered to change, which
is more evidence that it's a household installation.
If you really want to track this down, try running "ipconfig /all"
from a command prompt (you do appear to be running Windows XP).
Find the entry for your wireless adapter and you'll see several IP
addresses. The one labeled "IP Address" is the dynamic address
assigned to your PC and is probably not too useful. The one labled
"Default Gateway" is the address of the access point and most likely
will be a dynamic address too, and also won't be useful. On the off
chance that it's not a dynamic address, you can go to http://www.ripe.net/ (I'm assuming that you're really in Hungary as
you appear to be) and enter the IP address into the "RIPE WHOIS
Database Search" to find out who owns that address. If there are
addresses in the "DNS Servers" field, you can do the same with those.
None of this is likely to be of much use in finding out which
individual owns the access point you've connected to, just the name
of the ISP he buys his service from.
yes, I did that already and tried to find out the DNS server. ripe.net
database could not be more specific.
Is it possible, that the houshold access point owner I have been
connected to realized my presence and could stop providing the internet
access to my notebook's physical address. I am asking this because from
one moment on I am not having internet although the wireless connection
is still alive, but when I installed the DWL card to another notebook
with the same setting, the internet is working again.
janosvajda@gmail.com (jvajda) wrote in
news:1128026063.336672.281980@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:
> yes, I did that already and tried to find out the DNS server.
> ripe.net database could not be more specific.
> Is it possible, that the houshold access point owner I have been
> connected to realized my presence and could stop providing the
> internet access to my notebook's physical address. I am asking this
> because from one moment on I am not having internet although the
> wireless connection is still alive, but when I installed the DWL
> card to another notebook with the same setting, the internet is
> working again.
Access control on a per-system basis is done only by MAC address, so
far as I know, and the MAC address is a property of the network
interface. So, if your wireless card worked in another PC, something
else must have stopped your other machine from connecting.
Still, a disinterested outside observer might begin to think that
your interest in your neighbor's wirless connection is no longer so
innocent.
My interest in the neighbor's wireless connection is quite innocent but
prefer to share costs and get permission. That is the reason I wish to
find them.
Since in wireless environment, MAC address equals physical address, you
are also saying that a user can be excluded from internet access by
prohibiting the PC (or notebook) physical address (MAC address). Is
this exactly what happened to me?
why dont you buy your own internet access, holy shit good idea !
"jvajda" <janosvajda@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> My interest in the neighbor's wireless connection is quite innocent but
> prefer to share costs and get permission. That is the reason I wish to
> find them.
>
Barry OGrady wrote:
> You need to come to terms with yourself for stealing data.
> Find out who it belongs to and tell them to make it secure.
> Barry
> =====
> Home page
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
I did not steal any data, just happened to find the internet access. If
I can steal data I already know from whom I am stealing, but that is
far from my intentions.
janosvajda@gmail.com (jvajda) wrote in
news:1128031557.398551.123680@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:
> Since in wireless environment, MAC address equals physical address,
> you are also saying that a user can be excluded from internet
> access by prohibiting the PC (or notebook) physical address (MAC
> address). Is this exactly what happened to me?
Again, so far as I know, the MAC address is a property of the network
interface, not your PC per se.
Since you have a removable wireless NIC that you move from laptop to
laptop, the MAC address is a property of that NIC, and moves with it.
So, if the connection works when the card is in one machine, but not
in another, the reason for the connection failing is ->not due to MAC
address filtering.
<janosva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> because it is only available via 56 Kbit modem in my area which I have
> for years.
If you're connecting to a neighbor's WiFi access point, then he won't
have
any faster Internet connection than you do.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN b...@iphouse.com
The 56 Kbit modem internet I was refering to is my regular connection,
but I stopped using it while the wireless has become "available".
The two notebooks have different unchangeable physical address (people
say that is the MAC), does not matter they are connected to any network
or not.
On 30 Sep 2005 06:20:34 -0700, "jvajda" <janosvajda@gmail.com> wrote:
>because it is only available via 56 Kbit modem in my area which I have
>for years.
I don't believe quite that.
Your posting IP address is:
193.224.84.125
Plugging into: http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm
I find that you're in Budapest, Hungary.
RDNS puts you at:
sun1.oiti.hu
International house of learning boarding house. OK, a school
domatory.
Traceroute doesn't make it past your router but shows:
c72-gbeth0-2.adsl.vh.hbone.hu
as the last hop. This is obviously an ADSL connection which implies
that ADSL in available in your area.
Reconnect to your neighbors system. If they dumb enough to leave
encryption turned off, they probably also didn't set a password on the
router. Connect to the router with a web server and see what you find
on the "status" page for his IP address. Use: http://www.dnsstuff.com
to find the his ISP.
Thanks for the info. I wanted to know just that. You have to believe
me, in my area for home internet user there is only 56 Kbite/sec modem
available or limited service for huge money. That is why I want to
negotiate with this wireless ISP, that I am using now, sort of
illegally.
Jeff, you are right but also you are wrong. I posted my first letter
from my office in OITI, that is National Institute of Neurosurgery,
Budapest. I am concerned about internet service at home.
On 3 Oct 2005 13:31:51 -0700, "jvajda" <janosvajda@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jeff, you are right but also you are wrong. I posted my first letter
>from my office in OITI, that is National Institute of Neurosurgery,
>Budapest. I am concerned about internet service at home.
On 3 Oct 2005 13:19:39 -0700, "jvajda" <janosvajda@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks for the info. I wanted to know just that. You have to believe
>me, in my area for home internet user there is only 56 Kbite/sec modem
>available or limited service for huge money. That is why I want to
>negotiate with this wireless ISP, that I am using now, sort of
>illegally.
Well, ok. Sounds reasonable. One other method that is useful. Run:
Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
tracert www.xxxx.hu
or to any local web site. The first entry in the traceroute list is
your local router. The 2nd is the gateway IP address at the ISP. Use: http://www.dnsstuff.com
to lookup the owner of the gateway IP address. That will be the ISP.
Also, if you have XP or W2K and want to send a message to the owner,
try to determine their IP address. Then run:
Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
net view (list of Windoze machines)
net send machine_name "Hello? Anyone there?"
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Who is my ISP I popped in via wireless? 
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